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Здорово , я как раз тоже начал учиться играть в разз , играю тоже фтп 0,25\0,50.
Какой ник ?)

П.С. А что ты нашёл о раззе в Суперсистеме ? Я кроме дурацких таблиц ничего не увидел.

Какие книги по нему есть?
poker tracker stud для него подходит?
Как со столами на ФТП?

:)несколько раздач где хочу показать что нужно обращать внимание на карты оппонентов , а не только на свои.

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Full Tilt Poker Game #8190661969: Table Spring Crest - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Razz - 6:42:01 ET - 2008/09/23
Seat 1: Hero ($12.85)
Seat 2: Hybridfrost ($5)
Seat 3: NuEnglndRich ($3.45)
Seat 4: BennyMinieri92 ($5.65)
Seat 5: Donal G ($5.65)
Seat 6: razzonator ($4.05)
Seat 7: Pit30DE ($1.10)
Seat 8: steve4567 ($5.90)
NuEnglndRich antes $0.05
The_Rock_q antes $0.05
steve4567 antes $0.05
Hybridfrost antes $0.05
BennyMinieri92 antes $0.05
Pit30DE antes $0.05
razzonator antes $0.05
Donal G antes $0.05
3RD STREET
Dealt to Hero [A 8 :diamond:] [J :spade:]
Dealt to Hybridfrost [6 :diamond:]
Dealt to NuEnglndRich [7 :spade:]
Dealt to BennyMinieri92 [8 :spade:]
Dealt to Donal G [7 :heart:]
Dealt to razzonator [5 :diamond:]
Dealt to Pit30DE [2 :heart:]
Dealt to steve4567 [T :diamond:]
Hero is high with [J :spade:]
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero brings in for $0.10
Hybridfrost folds
NuEnglndRich folds
BennyMinieri92 folds
Donal G folds
razzonator folds
Pit30DE calls $0.10
steve4567 folds
4TH STREET
Dealt to Hero [A 8 :diamond:J :spade:] [A :spade:]
Dealt to Pit30DE [2 :heart:] [T :spade:]
Pit30DE checks
Hero checks
5TH STREET
Dealt to Hero [A 8 J A :spade:] [3 :heart:]
Dealt to Pit30DE [2 T :spade:] [9 :spade:]
Pit30DE checks
Hero checks
6TH STREET
Dealt to Hero [A 8 J A 3h] [4 :diamond:]
Dealt to Pit30DE [2 T 9 :spade:] [7 :club:]
Pit30DE checks
Hero checks
7TH STREET
Dealt to Hero[A 8 J A 3h 4 :diamond:] [7 :diamond:]
Pit30DE checks
Hero$0.50
Pit30DE has 15 seconds left to act
Pit30DE folds
Uncalled bet of $0.50 returned to Hero
Hero mucks
Hero wins the pot ($0.60)

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Full Tilt Poker Game #8190687522: Table Danville - $0.50/$1 Ante $0.10 - Limit Razz - 6:47:04 ET - 2008/09/23
Seat 4: bighern2727 ($17.20)
Seat 5: (Hero) ($22.70)
Seat 6: isejbin ($8.55)
Seat 8: derOesi ($0), is sitting out
(Hero)antes $0.10
isejbin antes $0.10
derOesi adds $10
bighern2727 antes $0.10
3RD STREET
Dealt to bighern2727 [9 :club:]
Dealt to (Hero) [4 6 :club:] [2 :club:]
Dealt to isejbin [A :spade:]
derOesi has returned
bighern2727 is high with [9 :club:]
bighern2727 brings in for $0.15
(Hero) completes it to $0.50
isejbin calls $0.50
bighern2727 folds
4TH STREET
Dealt to (Hero) [4 6 2 :club:] [2 :heart:]
Dealt to isejbin [A :spade:] [9 :heart:]
isejbin bets $0.50
(Hero) calls $0.50
5TH STREET
Dealt to (Hero) [4 6 2 2 :heart:] [4 :club:]
Dealt to isejbin [A 9 :heart:] [A :heart:]
isejbin checks
The_Rock_q bets $1
isejbin folds
Uncalled bet of $1 returned to The_Rock_q
(Hero) mucks
(Hero) wins the pot ($2.35)

пояснения:
1 раздача ничего особенного , даже было нужно ставить раньше.
2раздача : я выиграл имея две пары хуже сета в Раззе ,(так как при сете заняты только две карты а при 2 парах три. ), а у оппа всего лишь пара (возможно выше ,но я основываю свои размышления только на открытых картах оппа)и своим бетом убедил его что у меня рука лучше так как 24 лучше чем 9A для образования ло(а он видел лишь мои открытые карты).

Здорово , я как раз тоже начал учиться играть в разз , играю тоже фтп 0,25\0,50.
Какой ник ?)

П.С. А что ты нашёл о раззе в Суперсистеме ? Я кроме дурацких таблиц ничего не увидел.

1.
2.Ну я таблицы пытался учить,а ты знаешь другую литературу по Раззу?

Какие книги по нему есть?
poker tracker stud для него подходит?
Как со столами на ФТП?

1.книги кроме суперсистемы незнаю
2.незнаю я думую что в Разз нужно играть по нотсам а не по статам.
3.Рыба есть, играл на 3$-6$ один раз из 6 человек была только одна рыба,хотя я думаю что и остольных можно был обыгать.(просто отыграл
там 25 рук и ушел , по этому больше инфы по 3-6 дать не могу.
А на 0.25-0.50 0.5-1.00 рыбы много

2.незнаю я думую что в Разз нужно играть по нотсам а не по статам.

Ты свою статистику на листочке вести будешь?
winrate,количество рук,анализ игры и т.д.
Играть в покер от фонаря вредно для бумажника :grin:

Оригинал пользователя trigand

2.незнаю я думую что в Разз нужно играть по нотсам а не по статам.

Ты свою статистику на листочке вести будешь?
winrate,количество рук,анализ игры и т.д.
Играть в покер от фонаря вредно для бумажника :grin:

винрайт я могу посчитать и вручную(я же играю только в Разз)с помощью кнопочки касир и калькулятора
количество рук я смотрю с помощью кнопочки статс на Фтп
А анализ игры еще не веду так как сессии короткие (100-200 рук ,а сомнительных 2-5рук),а
вообще конечно надо согласен.

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Full Tilt Poker Game #8210766816: Table Lyotard (edu) - $5/$10 Ante $1 - Limit Razz - 18:34:43 ET - 2008/09/24
Seat 1: The_Rock_q ($107)
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 ($288.50)
Seat 5: numbersup ($222.50)
Seat 6: korjae ($49)
Seat 8: melonhead1 ($116)
melonhead1 antes $1
korjae antes $1
numbersup antes $1
1Incubator1 antes $1
The_Rock_q antes $1
3RD STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [5h 4s] [7s]
Dealt to 1Incubator1 [Kc]
Dealt to numbersup [Jd]
Dealt to korjae [9c]
Dealt to melonhead1 [3d]
1Incubator1 is high with [Kc]
1Incubator1 brings in for $1.50
numbersup folds
korjae folds
melonhead1 completes it to $5
The_Rock_q raises to $10
1Incubator1 folds
melonhead1 calls $5
4TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [5h 4s 7s] [Ts]
Dealt to melonhead1 [3d] [2c]
melonhead1 bets $5
The_Rock_q calls $5
5TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [5h 4s 7s Ts] [6h]
Dealt to melonhead1 [3d 2c] [6c]
melonhead1 bets $10
The_Rock_q calls $10
6TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [5h 4s 7s Ts 6h] [Qc]
Dealt to melonhead1 [3d 2c 6c] [3s]
The_Rock_q bets $10
melonhead1 raises to $20
The_Rock_q calls $10
7TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [5h 4s 7s Ts 6h Qc] [Jh]
The_Rock_q checks
melonhead1 checks
SHOW DOWN
melonhead1 shows [8h 8d 3d 2c 6c 3s 5d] 8,6,5,3,2
The_Rock_q mucks
melonhead1 wins the pot ($93.50) with 8,6,5,3,2
SUMMARY
Total pot $96.50 | Rake $3
Seat 1: The_Rock_q mucked [Jh 5h 7s Ts 6h Qc 4s] - T,7,6,5,4
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: numbersup folded on 3rd St.
Seat 6: korjae folded on 3rd St.
Seat 8: melonhead1 showed [8h 8d 3d 2c 6c 3s 5d] and won ($93.50) with 8,6,5,3,2
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Full Tilt Poker Game #8210810689: Table Lyotard (edu) - $5/$10 Ante $1 - Limit Razz - 18:38:14 ET - 2008/09/24
Seat 1: The_Rock_q ($63.50)
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 ($282)
Seat 5: numbersup ($184.50)
Seat 6: korjae ($16)
Seat 8: melonhead1 ($233.50)
melonhead1 antes $1
korjae antes $1
The_Rock_q antes $1
numbersup antes $1
1Incubator1 antes $1
3RD STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [3c 7h] [2h]
Dealt to 1Incubator1 [9h]
Dealt to numbersup [As]
Dealt to korjae [6h]
Dealt to melonhead1 [Ad]
1Incubator1 is high with [9h]
1Incubator1 has 15 seconds left to act
1Incubator1 brings in for $1.50
numbersup folds
korjae folds
melonhead1 completes it to $5
The_Rock_q calls $5
1Incubator1 folds
4TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [3c 7h 2h] [7c]
Dealt to melonhead1 [Ad] [Kd]
The_Rock_q bets $5
melonhead1 folds
Uncalled bet of $5 returned to The_Rock_q
The_Rock_q mucks
The_Rock_q wins the pot ($16.50)
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Full Tilt Poker Game #8210826355: Table Lyotard (edu) - $5/$10 Ante $1 - Limit Razz - 18:39:31 ET - 2008/09/24
Seat 1: The_Rock_q ($73)
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 ($278.50)
Seat 5: numbersup ($198)
Seat 6: korjae ($12.50)
Seat 8: melonhead1 ($216.50)
numbersup antes $1
1Incubator1 antes $1
melonhead1 antes $1
korjae antes $1
The_Rock_q antes $1
3RD STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [Ad 5d] [Jd]
Dealt to 1Incubator1 [4h]
Dealt to numbersup [5s]
Dealt to korjae [8c]
Dealt to melonhead1 [3c]
The_Rock_q is high with [Jd]
The_Rock_q brings in for $1.50
1Incubator1 has 15 seconds left to act
1Incubator1 folds
numbersup has 15 seconds left to act
numbersup folds
korjae completes it to $5
melonhead1 folds
The_Rock_q calls $3.50
4TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [Ad 5d Jd] [7h]
Dealt to korjae [8c] [Ah]
korjae bets $5
The_Rock_q calls $5
5TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [Ad 5d Jd 7h] [Qh]
Dealt to korjae [8c Ah] [Ac]
The_Rock_q checks
korjae checks
6TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [Ad 5d Jd 7h Qh] [3h]
Dealt to korjae [8c Ah Ac] [3s]
The_Rock_q bets $10
korjae is sitting out
korjae folds
Uncalled bet of $10 returned to The_Rock_q
The_Rock_q mucks
The_Rock_q wins the pot ($24)
SUMMARY
Total pot $25 | Rake $1
Seat 1: The_Rock_q collected ($24), mucked
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: numbersup folded on 3rd St.
Seat 6: korjae folded on 6th St.
Seat 8: melonhead1 folded on 3rd St.
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Full Tilt Poker Game #8210859961: Table Lyotard (edu) - $5/$10 Ante $1 - Limit Razz - 18:42:13 ET - 2008/09/24
Seat 1: The_Rock_q ($83)
Seat 2: Joy Jan ($108)
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 ($281)
Seat 5: numbersup ($189)
Seat 6: theblake68 ($300)
Seat 8: melonhead1 ($215)
melonhead1 antes $1
1Incubator1 antes $1
numbersup antes $1
The_Rock_q antes $1
Joy Jan antes $1
theblake68 antes $1
3RD STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [5s 9s] [Qd]
Dealt to Joy Jan [3s]
Dealt to 1Incubator1 [3h]
Dealt to numbersup [Ac]
Dealt to theblake68 [7h]
Dealt to melonhead1 [5h]
The_Rock_q is high with [Qd]
The_Rock_q brings in for $1.50
Joy Jan folds
1Incubator1 has 15 seconds left to act
1Incubator1 calls $1.50
numbersup folds
theblake68 folds
melonhead1 folds
4TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [5s 9s Qd] [2c]
Dealt to 1Incubator1 [3h] [8c]
1Incubator1 bets $5
The_Rock_q folds
Uncalled bet of $5 returned to 1Incubator1
1Incubator1 mucks
1Incubator1 wins the pot ($9)
SUMMARY
Total pot $9 | Rake $0
Seat 1: The_Rock_q folded on 4th St.
Seat 2: Joy Jan folded on 3rd St.
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 collected ($9), mucked
Seat 5: numbersup folded on 3rd St.
Seat 6: theblake68 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 8: melonhead1 folded on 3rd St.
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Full Tilt Poker Game #8210868154: Table Lyotard (edu) - $5/$10 Ante $1 - Limit Razz - 18:42:54 ET - 2008/09/24
Seat 1: The_Rock_q ($80.50)
Seat 2: Joy Jan ($107)
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 ($287.50)
Seat 5: numbersup ($188)
Seat 6: theblake68 ($299)
Seat 8: melonhead1 ($214)
1Incubator1 antes $1
melonhead1 antes $1
numbersup antes $1
The_Rock_q antes $1
theblake68 antes $1
Joy Jan antes $1
3RD STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [7c Ad] [4d]
Dealt to Joy Jan [9d]
Dealt to 1Incubator1 [6h]
Dealt to numbersup [9s]
Dealt to theblake68 [Js]
Dealt to melonhead1 [Qc]
melonhead1 is high with [Qc]
melonhead1 brings in for $1.50
The_Rock_q completes it to $5
Joy Jan folds
1Incubator1 has 15 seconds left to act
1Incubator1 folds
numbersup folds
theblake68 folds
melonhead1 folds
Uncalled bet of $3.50 returned to The_Rock_q
The_Rock_q mucks
The_Rock_q wins the pot ($9)
SUMMARY
Total pot $9 | Rake $0
Seat 1: The_Rock_q collected ($9), mucked
Seat 2: Joy Jan folded on 3rd St.
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: numbersup folded on 3rd St.
Seat 6: theblake68 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 8: melonhead1 folded on 3rd St.
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Full Tilt Poker Game #8210875207: Table Lyotard (edu) - $5/$10 Ante $1 - Limit Razz - 18:43:27 ET - 2008/09/24
Seat 1: The_Rock_q ($87)
Seat 2: Joy Jan ($106)
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 ($286.50)
Seat 5: numbersup ($187)
Seat 6: theblake68 ($298)
Seat 8: melonhead1 ($211.50)
melonhead1 antes $1
1Incubator1 antes $1
numbersup antes $1
theblake68 antes $1
Joy Jan antes $1
The_Rock_q antes $1
3RD STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [Ac Ts] [3s]
Dealt to Joy Jan [6d]
Dealt to 1Incubator1 [2s]
Dealt to numbersup [Qc]
Dealt to theblake68 [5d]
Dealt to melonhead1 [8h]
numbersup is high with [Qc]
numbersup brings in for $1.50
theblake68 folds
melonhead1 folds
The_Rock_q calls $1.50
Joy Jan calls $1.50
1Incubator1 has 15 seconds left to act
1Incubator1 calls $1.50
4TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [Ac Ts 3s] [5h]
Dealt to Joy Jan [6d] [Jh]
Dealt to 1Incubator1 [2s] [4d]
Dealt to numbersup [Qc] [Ah]
1Incubator1 checks
numbersup checks
The_Rock_q bets $5
Joy Jan folds
1Incubator1 has 15 seconds left to act
1Incubator1 calls $5
numbersup calls $5
5TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [Ac Ts 3s 5h] [Td]
Dealt to 1Incubator1 [2s 4d] [Kc]
Dealt to numbersup [Qc Ah] [Tc]
The_Rock_q bets $10
1Incubator1 has 15 seconds left to act
1Incubator1 folds
numbersup calls $10
6TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [Ac Ts 3s 5h Td] [2d]
Dealt to numbersup [Qc Ah Tc] [3d]
The_Rock_q bets $10
numbersup calls $10
7TH STREET
Dealt to The_Rock_q [Ac Ts 3s 5h Td 2d] [8d]
The_Rock_q bets $10
numbersup calls $10
SHOW DOWN
The_Rock_q shows [Ts 8d 3s 5h Td 2d Ac] 8,5,3,2,A
numbersup mucks
The_Rock_q wins the pot ($84) with 8,5,3,2,A
SUMMARY
Total pot $87 | Rake $3
Seat 1: The_Rock_q showed [Ts 8d 3s 5h Td 2d Ac] and won ($84) with 8,5,3,2,A
Seat 2: Joy Jan folded on 4th St.
Seat 3: 1Incubator1 folded on 5th St.
Seat 5: numbersup mucked [8c 6h Qc Ah Tc 3d 5c] - 8,6,5,3,A
Seat 6: theblake68 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 8: melonhead1 folded on 3rd St.

Здаровеньки
Вчера на фрироле пересекались
На разз подсел не так давно, на ФТП еще не играл с тобой вроде в разз
если знаешь где почитать что нить интересное по раззу выложи плз.
надеюсь еще поиграем разз рулит

Привет, разз - отличная игра, буду следить. Сам пару раз в дешёвых турнирах в итм попадал
Играю сам хорсе 0.5\1, разз - моя любимая игра в лошадке

ребят а правила где можно почитать про эту игру? Я лично вообше нигде не могу найти

http://www.pokerstars.com/ru/poker/games/razz/

Вообще, я всегда начинаю с 7хай или лучше, причём 7ка должна быть рубашкой вверх. Этого вполне хватает, чтобы обыгрывать рыбу...

Блог то загнулся :\ И по стаду никаких живых блогов нет.

Возобновляю блог . После 2 захода на 5/10 я попал на акулу и на счету осталось 2 бакса , но благодаря рейкбеку 4 баксов удалось подняться , потом 1,5 месяца плавал на мтт/лимит холдем/Разз и банкрол не поднимался выше 90 баксов и опускался ниже 30 баксов.

Но сейчас решил полностью погрузиться в Разз!

Итак Бр:101$ Limit 0.25/0.50 $ 1-4стола 100-800 рук в день.

Цель как можно быстрей подняться на 1/2$ ,так как там чувствую себя уверено , но нужен бр .

разз на разз не приходится

удачи автору и блогу а я тут до кучи для ценителей РАЗЗ кину раздачку

PokerStars Game #22496349280: Razz Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/11/30 10:41:24 ET
Table 'Zomba' 8-max
Seat 1: Bajoicheg ($19.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Panamanian ($15 in chips)
Seat 3: moolsan ($18 in chips)
Seat 6: fent77 ($4.25 in chips)
Seat 7: fresh_illo ($12.50 in chips)
Seat 8: Zbabe ($10.35 in chips)
Bajoicheg: posts the ante $0.05
Panamanian: posts the ante $0.05
moolsan: posts the ante $0.05
fent77: posts the ante $0.05
fresh_illo: posts the ante $0.05
Zbabe: posts the ante $0.05
3rd STREET
Dealt to Bajoicheg [3s Ac Qs]
Dealt to Panamanian [Ad]
Dealt to moolsan [6d]
Dealt to fent77 [Td]
Dealt to fresh_illo [9c]
Dealt to Zbabe [Js]
Bajoicheg: brings in for $0.10
Panamanian: raises $0.15 to $0.25
moolsan: folds
moolsan is sitting out
Sav141 joins the table at seat #4
fent77: folds
fresh_illo: folds
Zbabe: folds
Bajoicheg: calls $0.15
4th STREET
Dealt to Bajoicheg [3s Ac Qs] [Jc]
Dealt to Panamanian [Ad] [Ah]
Bajoicheg: checks
Panamanian: bets $0.25
Bajoicheg: calls $0.25
5th STREET
Dealt to Bajoicheg [3s Ac Qs Jc] [Kc]
Dealt to Panamanian [Ad Ah] [Kd]
Bajoicheg: checks
Panamanian: bets $0.50
Bajoicheg: calls $0.50
6th STREET
Dealt to Bajoicheg [3s Ac Qs Jc Kc] [8s]
Dealt to Panamanian [Ad Ah Kd] [As]
Bajoicheg: bets $0.50
Panamanian said, "this is sick lol"
Bajoicheg said, "true
Panamanian said, "hmmm"
Panamanian: folds
Uncalled bet ($0.50) returned to Bajoicheg
Panamanian said, "i cant call"
Bajoicheg collected $2.20 from pot
SUMMARY
Total pot $2.30 | Rake $0.10
Seat 1: Bajoicheg collected ($2.20)
Seat 2: Panamanian folded on the 6th Street
Seat 3: moolsan folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: fent77 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: fresh_illo folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Zbabe folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Сейчас тоже подсела на разз. на FTP на .25/.50 лимите. Удалось утроить банкролл. По-моему очень простая игра.

Кто скажет, почему проиграл в двух этих раздачах?