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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

partypoker - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 102.09 BB (VPIP: 54.08, PFR: 19.31, 3Bet Preflop: 11.17, Hands: 477)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 23.52, PFR: 16.25, 3Bet Preflop: 4.80, Hands: 1,864)
Hero (BB): 137.68 BB
UTG: 159.38 BB (VPIP: 20.92, PFR: 15.68, 3Bet Preflop: 6.34, Hands: 3,493)
MP: 31.5 BB (VPIP: 17.54, PFR: 16.37, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 174)
CO: 123.15 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 15.08, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 127)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♦ J♣

fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, SB raises to 5.5 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, BTN calls 11 BB, SB raises to 100.5 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

Spoiler

SB wins 124.5 BB

he is 3b 15% vs BU. 4bet very loose, 29%. 5bet 17%. i would call his shove if fish wouldnt call, but imo when fish calls it is premiums, so I am crashed?


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bulldozzer7
Joined: 07.11.2010

you think the overcall of BU is so strong that you should fold?
i do not share the same experiences with overcalls from recreationals i guess

i think this is a call agianst the aggro guy and i wouldnt worry that much about bu


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

I didnt say BU is very strong, but he could be.
The reason for fold is that SB shove range likely doesnt have bluffs given action, meaning that his range is something like QQ+, AK and I dont have pot odds to call vs that.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

It's not illogical to conclude that BTN may have some reasonable holdings - but we can definitely for the most part discount super premiums. I.e if he shows up with AA I'd just chalk it up to variance.

The most important factor is likely SB. The presence of BTN influences the dynamic here as mentioned - SB may shove tighter. He is also on the tighter side in terms of preflop aggression. While it's pretty standard to stack off with JJ BvB in many situations at this limit, the affected dynamic and tight-ish SB can lead to a marginal fold here.


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