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[NL25] 94s BvB

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spl4t
Joined: 18.12.2006

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 112.84 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 115.36 BB
UTG: 133.56 BB
MP: 153.64 BB
CO: 302 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9:club: 4:club:

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 6:spade: 7:club: 8:club:
Hero checks, BB bets 2.76 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, BB calls 5.24 BB

Turn: (20 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond:
Hero bets 25.2 BB, BB raises to 105.36 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 64.8 BB and is all-in

How do I play this correctly? On the Turn I thought: he would have 3bet sets and T9 on the flop. He probably called with a made hand that he is willing to fold to an overbet. When he shoves, it's just a fold, right? Whatever range I give him, I never have the 30% equity needed to call. Would it be better to take a more passive line in general, like cbet/call, c/c TRN? I kinda wanted to end the hand early, because I dont have showdown value.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Pre-flop I would limp or raise 3x from the SB. Now villain gets decent odds to defend with any 2 cards in position.

On this flop I would Cbet most of the time with the combo draw.

On the turn I don't understand your over bet. I would or check to try to get a free river river card or Cbet around half pot. As played you need to fold indeed with only a drawing hand.

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SDK1987


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

PF: Size is too small. Unless you're facing nits who fold 40%+ to a minraise in BB vs SB and they let you get away with minraising 80-100% of your range, it's generally not the best idea as any good player would just defend 100% vs your strategy and mess you up hard.

Postflop: I think the key to this is to select a checkraise Flop and Bet Turn sizing that commits you.

With your draw specifically, you have close to 30% equity vs a 1-pair type of hand. So you should raise larger to 10-11BB on the Flop (or maybe a larger raise would already make it easier to commit yourself) and pot bet/slight overbet the Turn such that there's 60BB left behind so when he jams you get pot odds of 60/200 = 30%

In theory vs his jam you're supposed to fold since you're getting 32.5% pot odds with 30% or less equity


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Pre size is okay at 25 Zoom if you play this, people over fold here vs it, hand is a fold otherwise, I wouldn't limp at this rake with the smaller SB than usual especially giving you worse odds.

Flop just CR Bigger - we are repping a very nutted range when he bets this size with his range


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Flop check call is fine of course, just check call, bluff river when he checks turn, you can throw in some turn check raises.

As played the turn umm - tricky tricky, it might be a blockbet jam even, I might run this if I get the time hah


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

I ran this
gave you a slightly wider range than you should have. Opponent standard BB vs SB because
A) Lazy
B) You are assuming people suck and over fold. (I haven't seen population analysis on 25Z stars in the last couple of years, so I can't confirm. Before then, they did overfold big time)

1) Flop is a 85.7% check with your range, your hand almost pure checks
2) You do have a pretty wide check-raise range here. What is interesting is that with your size we check raise over a third of A8, then mix in hands like J9, pure raise 88, and then check call almost all overpairs, half of 77 and most 66.

Our hand 9♣:4♣: splits around half between check and check/raise as I expected.

Turn
Well, I gave it my genius block bet option and your size overbet, and it just chooses your size overbet, does it 28% of the time to fold to the jam

The thing is, our opponent should not shove turn very often it does just 3.26% of the time in solver. The trend on micros and small stakes has always been that turns are under-raised almost universally, odds are the population won't jam wider than solver here, on the contrary.

The reason why it hates my 300 IQ block bet jam idea is because I am guessing our equity distribution has a big drop-off where 66 ends worse hands begin. And because the opponent has a lot of higher equity hands than your range that aren't put under pressure at the lower end of the distribution - we just allow him to click call with those and be right.

You are blue, he is green, turn after check-raise and Call on the flop

Conclusion
Preflop, I don't bother with personally and just go 3X in Zoom with normal range. Rake's high, people are getting better pre with all them GTOWizard free charts etc. It's just simpler to focus on mental capacity on post-flop play where people have huge leaks.

But I doubt it's too bad to not give them credit in Zoom, just don't do this at reg tables, and do it vs people you know overfold and don't adjust vs 2x open.

You actually played it fine, the big bet's good, you just must fold to the jam that should be so rare we don't have to worry about it too much (as long as we let it go when it does happen)

On the river, you just give up on pretty much any runout.
GTO+ Outputs, EQ distribution is from Flopzilla Pro

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Screw range distribution, screw fundamentals and the robots... I still love my genius 9000000 IQ Idea of block bet, see cheap river or JAM in his face. YOLO, Live a little!


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