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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016
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Known Players:
MP2: $9,07 - 227 bb
MP3: $2,23 - 56 bb
CO: $4,12 - 103 bb
BU: $9,43 - 236 bb
SB: $4,12 - 103 bb
BB: $4,34 - 109 bb

0.02/0.04 No Limit Hold'em (6 Handed)
Hand recorder for this hand: PokerStrategy.com SideKick 2.1.30121.1

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♦, K♣
SB posts small blind ($0,02), BB posts big blind ($0,04), 2 folds, Hero raises for $0,12, 2 folds, BB 3-bets $0,32, Hero calls

Flop: ($0,74 - 18.50 bb) A♥, Q♠, T♦ (2 Players)
BB bets $0,53, Hero calls

Turn: ($1,80 - 45 bb) 5♦ (2 Players)
BB bets $1,28, Hero calls

River: ($4,36 - 109 bb) 3♠ (2 Players)
BB bets $2,17, Hero bets $1,95, BB gets uncalled back ($0,22)

Hi, I´d like to discuss this hand, though I think I played it wrong.
Villain: 22/19/3 bet: 4,4/1.2k hands
Pre-flop is standard open, after I get re-raise I call (would you shove there?). OTF villain c-bets around 2/3 of the pot (his C-bet stat: 70). There is a straight, but KJ is not in his range, I hapily call there. He keeps betting OTT as well, there I start to think I might be behind, however his turn c-bet is 63, which is quiet big, isn´t it? I put him there on KK (but that wouldn´t be good play of him and I hold myself K), AA (but I hold myself A and one is on the board), QQ (I see that very often in his range), AQ (also in his range very often). I keep calling. He c-bets the river and put me all in to call. I think, this was misplay of mine and I should just fold, because what actually can he play like he did and I beat? I think KK is out of the discussion, AK - yeah, that might be it, but that´s all... When I look at it now, it seems to me like AQ of clubs mostly (in his 3 bet range is not included AQo) and maybe even more likely QQ.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013
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I would 4bet pre.
As played postflop is ok. You have TPTK so I wouldn't fold OTF or OTT and folding to a 1/2 pot bet OTR would be difficult. We might still be splitting the pot quite often.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016
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Originally posted by la55i
I would 4bet pre.
As played postflop is ok. You have TPTK so I wouldn't fold OTF or OTT and folding to a 1/2 pot bet OTR would be difficult. We might still be splitting the pot quite often.

Why 4 bet? I mean he already seems strong with his 3 bet, wouldn´t we just tighten his range to KK+ if we 4bet?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010
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We should 4b here as villain will 3b 5-6% vs late positions.
Plus the size of the 3b is small.
We can fold turn as we beat only AJ. There are sets and straight possible too.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013
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Villain seems to 3bet quite tight but let's assume his 3bet range is something like this:
QQ+,AQs+,A3s-A2s,87s,76s,AQo+

That is a polarized range. Your AKo has over 50% equity against this range. You can easily value 4bet this hand and you will get some folds and some calls from weaker hands like AQs. And even if villain continues with, let's say QQ+ only, you would still have over 30% equity.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016
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Originally posted by nitrol
We should 4b here as villain will 3b 5-6% vs late positions.
Plus the size of the 3b is small.
We can fold turn as we beat only AJ. There are sets and straight possible too.

How much for 3 bet? And for 4 bet?

Originally posted by la55i
Villain seems to 3bet quite tight but let's assume his 3bet range is something like this:
QQ+,AQs+,A3s-A2s,87s,76s,AQo+

That is a polarized range. Your AKo has over 50% equity against this range. You can easily value 4bet this hand and you will get some folds and some calls from weaker hands like AQs. And even if villain continues with, let's say QQ+ only, you would still have over 30% equity.

I´ve heard that term many times (polarized range), but what does that mean? That his range includes not only very strong hands (from the first sight) but also hands like 87s which have great potential?

And how can we say, that his 3 bet range contains so many hands, when his 3 bet is only 4,4, which is something like this https://ctrlv.cz/KipK ?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009
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Originally posted by la55i
Villain seems to 3bet quite tight but let's assume his 3bet range is something like this:
QQ+,AQs+,A3s-A2s,87s,76s,AQo+

That is a polarized range. Your AKo has over 50% equity against this range. You can easily value 4bet this hand and you will get some folds and some calls from weaker hands like AQs. And even if villain continues with, let's say QQ+ only, you would still have over 30% equity.

This is overly optimistic as a preflop 3bet range. But suppose it is realistic. This is most definitely not his range once he fires turn, let alone river. I'd be surprised if we had more than 10% equity versus tight player once the river bet comes. Trivial fold, at least on the river. You'll have AQ+ to bluff catch with.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013
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Well the range I put there was 5% range. If we assume it is polarized (he has bluff 3bet range too) and he 3bets a bit wider COvsBB than in other positions I would say that is realistic. Of course his range is not that when he fires river but pre flop it might very well be. And I was talking about 4betting pre.
In my opinion even if it was top 4% merged range we could find a 4bet here.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009
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Okay. I thought you meant postflop. My bad.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010
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The normal 3b is 3x and some players like to make it slightly bigger when OOP.
4b should be 2.2-2.5x. It can reach 3x.


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Saren113
Joined: 06.03.2009
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We make our river decision on the turn if we call and the river blanks we call, as if we fold we're just burning money. If you we're a bit deeper I like the 3b-call alot more.


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robin261187
Joined: 04.01.2011
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I would've 4bet pre-flop also.

BB's 3bet range vs steal is bigger than his average 3b range, so most of the time we are ahead here.

Post flop if we had 3bet preflop we could 3 barrel and fold to a check/raise. Or we could barrel flop and turn and see a free showdown on river.

As played I don't think it's so bad to call 3 streets, but to fold on the river I also don't think it's bad.


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