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Try for thin value hitting second pair OTR in squeezed pot?

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
First off: Is this a decent squeeze spot?

My Thoughts:
Having squeezed, I should be the flop. I thought that by not CBetting I could rep a stronger hand. I had considered x/r on the flop.
Good idea or no?
Bet river? Check/Call or Check/fold?
If Bet river, how much?
If I do bet, I pretty much have to fold to a shove...

GG Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $3.87
Hero (BB): $5.11
UTG: $5.00
CO: $5.00
BTN: $1.10

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A♥:T♥:

UTG raises to $0.15, fold, fold, SB calls $0.13, Hero raises to $0.60, UTG calls $0.45, fold

Flop: ($1.35, 2 players) Q♥:Q♠:9♣:
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($1.35, 2 players) 8♠:
Hero bets $0.68, UTG calls $0.68

River: ($2.71, 2 players) T♠:
Hero ???


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It's interesting to know what kind of villain the UTG player is. If he's tight or a random player I would just call.
Flop I would most likely Cbet. It's really tough for him to hit this board and you can represent a decent pair.
Turn I would check most of the time as well. Really tough to represent a decent hand and you have some showdown value as well.
As played you could go for a thin value bet of like half pot, but I don't see to many weaker hands that would call. Most of the time I would check it down or he's really passive.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

Preflop, I lean more towards calling then squeezing on the bb and closing the action. Your hand is a good hand to play postflop multiway.

On the river, I don't know, I do think checking and folding against any reasonable bet is higher ev then betting and getting money in behind against rarely Qx but not unreasonable to see.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I squeezed because both are high VPIP players -- esp SB
I was going to x/c this flop, since sometimes it shows more strength than CBetting.
I might, for example, slow play trip Qs

I did bet just under half pot, but folded to the shove -- there are flushes and boats available on this board.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

I wouldn't squeeze without a reason. We close the action and have a hand that plays well muti-way so preflop I'd make a call.

I'd bet the flop, good backdoors going on. Can potentially fold out some of his equity such as AKAQ ect

As played I'd bet 1/3 on the river. The pot is bloated, if we bet any higher we are value towning ourself vs a better range and losing too much.
1/3 achieves a couple of things:

- If we check and he bets, it's a tough spot. We don't want to commit too much as his range is AK AQ and overpairs mainly. Especially strong as it's UTG
- if we bet 1/3 he may call with A highs
- if we get raised it's an easy fold and we know where we stand.


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LahtiPelican
Joined: 27.04.2013

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

I did bet just under half pot, ...

If you replace your action with questionmarks, but leave the red color tag as it is, we will know what your move was :coolface:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by LahtiPelican

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

I did bet just under half pot, ...

If you replace your action with questionmarks, but leave the red color tag as it is, we will know what your move was :coolface:
DOH!


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