[Closed] NL25 rush zero winrate

Same thing here, almost identical stats Plz help

play bss

why?

Originally posted by RandomGenerator
why?

to win

why do you think I should win playing bss?

my stats are very similar to yours too!!

I think the basic formula is very strong but it needs some tweaking once you start to break even!! we are playing poker and charts will only take us so far I think we have to go the extra few yards

Any thoughts???

Roo

look at your nonshowdown winnings. You're nit rite? Walkover? ♦

I don't think you can only wait for big hands..

Edit: and I don't think BSS will make ur profits any bigger there..

Don't play rush?

Playing rush, it is all about the cards.
Playing normal cash games, you can get into tables where you find exploitable PEOPLE. Take a buy-in or two from them, then move on.

If the table you're at doesn't have any -- or if you are the exploitable one (and with 11/10 vpip/pfr you probably are) -- just move on. With a couple of 30/10s on my right, and a couple of 12/10s on my left, I can make a buy-in w/o even getting to showdown.

I don't play rush (tried it & didn't like it), but what improved my game a whole bunch was reading all of the material about the advanced open raising chart, and the associated post flop articles.

I went from about a 9/9 and I'm now somewhere around 15/12.
As you open more, you'll need better post flop skills.

If I were in your position, I would drop a limit and practice to get those skills.

playing vs fish must be really exciting, the only thing it's worth for is money .But from the point of view of game improvement you don't improve, you don't analyze you don't work because you don't have to.

Originally posted by roopopper
my stats are very similar to yours too!!

I put my hh into my hem leak buster and here are some of the answers it gave me, hope this may help

My vpip is 9 way to low i scored an F should be around 14-20

my pfr/vpip ratio 98 way to high!! should be aiming for around 62-87 also scored an f.

Any thoughts???

Roo

well I think that these stats are for BSS. you cannot play mss with VPIP 18 for example. just because you lack implied odds.

Originally posted by mattisks
look at your nonshowdown winnings. You're nit rite? Walkover? ♦

I don't think you can only wait for big hands..

Edit: and I don't think BSS will make ur profits any bigger there..

Not really. I'm not just waiting for the big hands. Or maybe you can give some example for a hand that you think I will usually fold while I'm not supposed to?

Maybe some example with TPTK or a middle pair?

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Don't play rush?

Playing rush, it is all about the cards.
Playing normal cash games, you can get into tables where you find exploitable PEOPLE. Take a buy-in or two from them, then move on.

If the table you're at doesn't have any -- or if you are the exploitable one (and with 11/10 vpip/pfr you probably are) -- just move on. With a couple of 30/10s on my right, and a couple of 12/10s on my left, I can make a buy-in w/o even getting to showdown.

You are more or less right. By why shouldn't I play rush? I mean if you just play with the fishes you will not learn much. But in my situation I'm pretty much sure that NL25 rush or NL50 rush are the limits that I can beat. Probably in the nearest future. So when I will learn to beat these limits I will earn even more on the usual tables with the fish.

I don't play rush (tried it & didn't like it), but what improved my game a whole bunch was reading all of the material about the advanced open raising chart, and the associated post flop articles.

I went from about a 9/9 and I'm now somewhere around 15/12.
As you open more, you'll need better post flop skills.

If I were in your position, I would drop a limit and practice to get those skills.

you play BSS, don't you?

Originally posted by RandomGenerator

Originally posted by mattisks
look at your nonshowdown winnings. You're nit rite? Walkover? ♦

I don't think you can only wait for big hands..

Edit: and I don't think BSS will make ur profits any bigger there..

Not really. I'm not just waiting for the big hands. Or maybe you can give some example for a hand that you think I will usually fold while I'm not supposed to?

Maybe some example with TPTK or a middle pair?

for example any two if you're BU, CO and was it folded to you. Do you play any two from there? I can see your nonshowdown winnings. Answer is NO.

So I am not even asking ♠_evil:

Don't play rush?

Playing rush, it is all about the cards.
Playing normal cash games, you can get into tables where you find exploitable PEOPLE. Take a buy-in or two from them, then move on.

If the table you're at doesn't have any -- or if you are the exploitable one (and with 11/10 vpip/pfr you probably are) -- just move on. With a couple of 30/10s on my right, and a couple of 12/10s on my left, I can make a buy-in w/o even getting to showdown.

I don't play rush (tried it & didn't like it), but what improved my game a whole bunch was reading all of the material about the advanced open raising chart, and the associated post flop articles.

I went from about a 9/9 and I'm now somewhere around 15/12.
As you open more, you'll need better post flop skills.

If I were in your position, I would drop a limit and practice to get those skills.

sure I do play them. when the blinds fold more than 80% than I usually try to steal with any two. did you mean that?

VorpalF2F, I guess we already saw this message before

I play rush mss as well. In my opinion the one thing that I dont see enough people doing is light 3 bet re-stealing. I do this about with any two when im in the blinds and the co or bu raises. About 95% of the time if you 3 bet their blind steal you will win. And I dont play with stats. light 4 betting is also a good idea vs regs with whom you have a read on. Your red line will skyrocket.

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you are joking, right? what limit do you play?

Originally posted by RandomGenerator
VorpalF2F, I guess we already saw this message before
too weird.
I've no idea how it got it twice