PokerRanger2 - Preflop Trainer (NEW, v2.3.0)

Hey there,

Hat tip for a great program!

Have this question:

I set Hero and Villain preflop ranges and then generate a random flop. Using the Equity Tables tab I can visualize Hero's top 60% range. How do I now export or save this range/group so that I can, for instance, use it as my continuation flop range for the turn?

In the hand selection dialog there is a feature that at first look seems to be able to do exactly what I'm asking above, but when I use it it looks like it is based not on the equity of my defined preflop range but on the equity of a 100% range. Am I doing something wrong? Is there anyway of doing what I am asking?

Finally, as a suggestion, it would be very useful if you could add to the program the ability to plot equity distribution charts (a-la Will Tipton in his Expert Heads-Up No Limit book). It seems to me that your program is already doing all the calculations necessary to plot the chart (all the data on the Equity Tables tab) and it is just a matter of presenting it nicely and more organised on a chart. I think this will be of tremendous value and it is something that currently no other software does.

At a minimum, it will be helpful if you could add to the right table showing various data for the equities of specific hands a column with the (cumulative) percentile, so that you could easily identify certain percentile cut-off hands. Again you have all the data to do this and it would be a matter of adding an additional column so that the information is presented it in a more direct, easy to use manner.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi 3ntropy,

you are right, the option in the hand selection dialog should do what you are looking for. Unfortunately, it does not at the moment.

I set Hero and Villain preflop ranges and then generate a random flop. Using the Equity Tables tab I can visualize Hero's top 60% range. How do I now export or save this range/group so that I can, for instance, use it as my continuation flop range for the turn?

Well, it's not very user-friendly, but you can:
1) In the equity tables tab copy the selected range via the copy button to the clipboard
2) create a new group in the hand selection dialog
3) back in the main window, select the group via dropdown
4) paste the copied text from the clipboard

This will change the group's hands.

Finally, as a suggestion, it would be very useful if you could add to the program the ability to plot equity distribution charts (a-la Will Tipton in his Expert Heads-Up No Limit book). It seems to me that your program is already doing all the calculations necessary to plot the chart (all the data on the Equity Tables tab) and it is just a matter of presenting it nicely and more organised on a chart. I think this will be of tremendous value and it is something that currently no other software does.

Yes, this is planned.

Thank you very much for your questions and great suggestions!
All the best,
Eisflamme

Super! Looking forward to the additions.

Thank you very much again for your help.

question:
here is saved in the user ranges Range Tree, how to do that in the matrix can be added to each other them?

In equilab ranges combined using shift key is pressed. And here is how?

Hi Mitra2008,

adding ranges via the matrix is not possible at the moment.

You can doubleclick on a range, go to the main dialog, copy the text form and add this to another range in text form. That way, the ranges can be combined. However, this is not really convenient.

We have planned to add the "add range" feature in future updates, however.

We are afraid, we do not have better news at the moment.

Thank you for your interest and best regards,
Eisflamme

I bought pokerranger through a link here on pokerstrategy.com almost a month ago, however it doesnt work when i try to activate it. It tell me to contact pokerranger@elypson.com so i wrote them several timehs now, however there is no reply...

Hi Gadgaard,

we are glad that you contact us this way, finally.

Your e-mail address is on a server which is blocked for incoming mail. It is not possible to contact you via mail accounts from 1&1 or Google.

That is the reason why you have not received any mail so far with the license.

Please add us in Skype PokerRangerSupport or write us with an e-mail address that is on a rational server like googlemail, gmx etc.

Thank you very much for your interest. We have not forgotten you, we just have not had any chance to contact you.

All the best,
Eisflamme

Just wanted to say that I took your advice and contacted via skype. The response was quite quick, and it works now

Thank you for the help

hi there,

i would like to use PokerRanger to build preflop ranges since it has nice capabilitity to color partial groups of whole range, which is exactly what i want. however i am missing feature to save such range in some picture format to print it and use on board over my PC can you please consider to add such functionality?
i can take screenshots and crop them, but its not user friendly

Hi PumaPerez,

sorry for the late answer.

We have a function like this on our to do list. You are right that the easiest way to export such ranges is a screenshot at the moment.

For the moment, we can only recommend third-party screenshot tools like Snapit or similar ones.

Thank you for your interest and your feedback!
Have a nice day,
Eisflamme

From 14th to 18th of July you get -20% off on PokerRanger ♠_cool:

No more update ?
v1.18.2: (Current Version) (26th Nov 2013)

Hi Apache4667,

at the moment we work on a larger feature: equity graphs. They will display equity of one range against another in a graph. We aim to make this performant and clear. Additionally, we add multi-threaded equity calculation to the math engine.

All of this is quite time-consuming but is most likely worth the wait.

Thank you very much for your interest and best regards,
Eisflamme

When can we expect new update?

how can I check my serial? I forgot to save it but I wanted to install it on different PC

Hi,

Gustaff1988:
The update date is still uncertain. The equity graph tool works for deterministic boards so far in the working edition that is not yet released. We will probably add random boards for this specific function, too, before we offer a release. How long this takes is hard to determine.

Rinnok:
You should look for your e-mail where you got the license. Otherwise, please leave us an e-mail, so we can think of other ways for you.

Best regards
Eisflamme

Hi,

the new update is out. There is a new tab now with an important function for a well-balanced game. This tab will even further extended with future updates.

New Features:

• Equity Graph Tab: In the equity graph tab you can view the equities of one range against another on a specific board or preflop. This enables you to get a better view of the strength and playability of your range against the other player's range.
• Ranges with Spaces: This feature is not that large. But from now on, text ranges with spaces can be pasted.

Other Improvements:

• Equity Calculation Accelerated: For postflop calculations, the equity calculation has been parallelized. For specific calculations and depending on the number of processor cores, this can make calculations 2-8 times faster.
• New UI Framework: The software uses the latest QT framework with version 5.3 now. This makes the software more stable and faster.
• New Runtime:PokerRanger has been upgraded to a newer runtime. That way, performance improves, as well.
• Visual Enhancements:Some visual parts of PokerRanger have been enhanced, e.g. the range matrix and icons.

We hope that you have a lot of fun with this new update.

If you have questions, annotations or wishes, we are always open to your suggestions.

Have a nice day,
Eisflamme

Originally posted by pLAYERsjsk
used software to run analyses of my problematic hands and all i can say is that i just LOVE IT!!!
great job thanks

edit: and yeah i agree.. after pokerranger, flopzilla is plain useless. uninstall.. :))

I have just spent a significant amount of time trying out and utilizing all of these different kinds of software that are offered today. I see that this thread is a little old at this point but I wanted to add my 2 pennies here.

I personally believe that PokerRanger is the best overall piece of software, for function and value, out on the market. CREV is more expensive, more advanced, and for a different purpose and Combonator really sucks next to PokerRanger. That said, Flopzilla definitely does do things that PokerRanger can't when concerning preflop and the flop itself. I don't want to get into the whole list of things but PokerRanger's expertise comes in from the flop on. Sure, it does a lot more than that also but it is not going to estimate board hits from any number of hands until the flop is already entered. Flopzilla can compare a range to a hand or a hand to a range, and give you all sorts of detailed statistics on how these hands/ranges hit different flops and compare to each other without actually entering in a specific flop. When you're ready, with one click of a button, you can load up a random flop, turn, and river (or manually enter each street) and get the same detailed breakdown, naturally. All of this can be done quicker and easier than with any other piece of software.

If you take Flopzilla, which costs $35, and add in Equilab from this site (which is obviously free), there really isn't a ton of things that PokerRanger does that you can't do already with these two pieces of software. Sure, you have things like the fold equity calculator and what not but...really, there isn't that much to justify the $80 cost if money is somewhat tight for you and/or your bankroll is still small and growing.

Let's look at it this way: Everyone kind of agrees that for the advanced players, CREV is absolutely necessary. So let's say we're all eventually going to use that if we're serious players. Let's just say that. $35 for Flopzilla + Equilab, and then $100 for CREV down the line = $135 total expense. PokerRanger + CREV = $180. I mean, it is only a $45 difference but Flopzilla and CREV are made by the same developers and do really go hand in hand, and for a player who is still in smaller stakes, that $45 could really go to a lot of other things.

Again, I think PokerRanger is absolutely fantastic but if you think that Flopzilla just goes out the window the second you can afford PokerRanger, you need to look at what I've outlined and learn to use Flopzilla + Equilab together in tandem better. As said, the combo of the two really can do just about everything PR can and they cost a lot less.

Just food for thought.

Hi,

thank you for your elaboration! We appreciate your thoughts.

From what I see your analysis focuses on the first two tabs only. Getting win equities for specific hand strengths is not what I have found in Flopzilla.

Most users also emphasize that they appreciate analyses with the equity tables tab, another feature not offered by Flopzilla. EV/FE analysis may be redundant if you have CREV but again, for short and fast analyses some users said they would prefer PokerRanger anyways.

I am also not sure if you have yet found out about the group functionality of PokerRanger. This is an argument to purchase Combonator, in general. We heard of many people who bought both Flopzilla and Combonator. PokerRanger also includes most of the features that Combonator has, so that this part is included. You can manage your ranges very effectively that way and drive analyses based on parts of ranges.

Of course, you are right that there are some features that Flopzilla supports which PokerRanger does not. They are included in the to do list. Of course, at the moment you have to wait and if you do not need the additional functions that I described above, PokerRanger may not be the right choice right now.

Again, we appreciate your input and will work to enhance PokerRanger to an even better piece of software!

Thanks and if you have further input or ideas, do not hesitate to convey it/them to us!
All the best,
Eisflamme

Hi!

I downloaded the latest update on my computer. After that unfortunately I got an error message: Pokerranger is not a valid Win32 application. I tried to uninstall and reinstall the Pokerranger but nothing has changed.

Can the latest Pokerranger run on a 32-bit Windows system (Windows XP)?

(in the past it was not a problem)