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[5Cd] Aakkk #2 $0.5/$1

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Thorek
Joined: 25.12.2007

Feral Cow Poker
PokerStars Limit 5 Card Draw $0.50/$1.00 - 6 players

CO: $6.25
Button: $19.30
SB: $20.78 (Hero)
BB: $4.87
UTG: $18.13
UTG+1: $20.57

Dealing Hands: ($0.75) (6 players)
4 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.50

First Draw: ($2.00) (2 players)
Hero stands, BB discards 3,

Hero bets $1, BB folds

Hero collected $1.91

(Rake: $0.09)

I'm wondering if it's better to crush full and change one or 2 cards?


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Personally I tend to think that if you can't get paid off if you pat in a spot like this, you're not snowing often enough.


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madorjan
Joined: 13.11.2009

Agree with jb on this one. Another simple balance concept: making your valuehand into a weaker valuehand that is still awfully strong, you don't make him indifferent. You make him indifferent by bluffing.

@jb: what would be your SB-open/pat snowing range here? It's kind of an interesting question I think...


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

I haven't played for a while, but I calculated that you get about the right frequency if you do it with any hand that contains 5 different cards from AKQJT9 that isn't a straight. In earlier positions, I think the pair below the bottom of your range + 2 :spade: also gives the right frequency.

Ofc, in practice, being a NL player, I just used to snow when I got bored. :facepalm:


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madorjan
Joined: 13.11.2009

Disagree man, sry bout that.

1) 5 cards 9+ will always have at least a gutshot + high pair potentials, so I wouldn't pat them, I'd much rather pat 4 cards 9+ with no straight draw, or 3 cards T+, 2 in the 9-7 range or something like that (haven't worked out the numbers tho).

2) Pairs I think are generally bad to snow with, since they have reversed card removal effect (another NL theory that doesn't make sense in any other game - probably not even there, but whatever, I don't care about NL). I think the same kind of hands could be good for snowing from EP, hands with high cards as blockers, no pairs (since a pair makes it more likely your opponent has a pair, also you have less blockers mostly).


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by madorjan
Disagree man, sry bout that.

If you were right and I were wrong I wouldn't be at all surprised.


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