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Sounds nasty, chin up :f_love:


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MisClick
Joined: 30.05.2008

You can also try to click buttons like I do. No need to look


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trickybob
Joined: 28.07.2010

Originally posted by MisClick
You can also try to click buttons like I do. No need to look

:f_biggrin:

Get better soon.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I'm back to where I can look at a screen for a half hour or so at a time.

I'm taking an online introductory course in Game Theory.
I managed to get week two's lectures and problem set completed today.
Not what I thought it would be. Doesn't help me with poker yet.

To amuse myself, I've been playing NL 2 CAP. CAP means that although your bets aren't limited at any one time, you can only go "All-in" as if you had a 30 bb stack.

It is a riot. There are some interesting strategy limitations in this format.
First and foremost -- for me at least -- is that there is no such thing as "implied odds". If you have pocket pairs, the "call 20" rule will NEVER be satisfied. I still haven't figure out how to play them optimally,

At this level, there is a lot of open-shoving (or should I say "open-capping")
A fair amount of 3Bet-Capping as well. People are doing this mostly with AQ, AJ and 99-JJ. Better hands, they play "normally" and try to get some measure more from post flop.

While not exactly typical, this hand is indicative of the level of play:
Full Tilt, $0.01/$0.02 Cap No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

MP: $0.90 (45 bb)
CO: $0.22 (11 bb)
BTN: $4.14 (207 bb)
SB: $1.08 (54 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.10 (255 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K:c A:c
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.07, SB raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.58, BTN folds
I have just sat down, and have never seen any of these players before. Against the open-capping range I gave above, I'm well ahead, so I called.

Flop: ($1.27) 3:c Q:h J:s (2 players)
Turn: ($1.27) 9:d (2 players)
River: ($1.27) T:c (2 players)

Results: $1.27 pot ($0.08 rake)
Final Board: 3:c Q:h J:s 9:d T:c
SB showed 3:s 6:s and lost (-$0.60 net)
Hero showed K:c A:c and won $1.19 ($0.59 net)

My equity vs the expected open-capping range:

       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG    35.11%  33.58%   1.53% { JJ-99, AQs-ATs, AQo-ATo }
UTG+1  64.89%  63.36%   1.53% { AKs }

My equity vs his actual hand:

       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG    36.40%  36.13%   0.27% { 63s }
UTG+1  63.60%  63.33%   0.27% { AKs }

Are you as surprised as I am?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

The ophthalmologist says my eye has "healed over", but will be fragile for some time. I now need to put drops in 4x per day. Unlike the previous ones -- THESE STING!.

I'm looking for a masochism coach, so at least I'll enjoy them...

And for your eyes only, this is the view from the eye doctor's office window:

Unfortunately, 2 panes of glass messes with the quality, but it is what it is.


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Mmmm...money in eye-doctoring.


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Epic view is epic!

Glad to hear you're officially on the mend :)


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

I'm going to pretend that's photoshopped, just so I don't feel jealous.


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MisClick
Joined: 30.05.2008

Bah. It's north facing.

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Seriously amazing view. I am jealous. :f_frown:


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trickybob
Joined: 28.07.2010

My friend took this from a beach close to where I live yesterday.


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F
I'm back to where I can look at a screen for a half hour or so at a time.

I'm taking an online introductory course in Game Theory.
I managed to get week two's lectures and problem set completed today.
Not what I thought it would be. Doesn't help me with poker yet.

To amuse myself, I've been playing NL 2 CAP. CAP means that although your bets aren't limited at any one time, you can only go "All-in" as if you had a 30 bb stack.

It is a riot. There are some interesting strategy limitations in this format.
First and foremost -- for me at least -- is that there is no such thing as "implied odds". If you have pocket pairs, the "call 20" rule will NEVER be satisfied. I still haven't figure out how to play them optimally,

At this level, there is a lot of open-shoving (or should I say "open-capping")
A fair amount of 3Bet-Capping as well. People are doing this mostly with AQ, AJ and 99-JJ. Better hands, they play "normally" and try to get some measure more from post flop.

While not exactly typical, this hand is indicative of the level of play:
Full Tilt, $0.01/$0.02 Cap No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

MP: $0.90 (45 bb)
CO: $0.22 (11 bb)
BTN: $4.14 (207 bb)
SB: $1.08 (54 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.10 (255 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K:c A:c
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.07, SB raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.58, BTN folds
I have just sat down, and have never seen any of these players before. Against the open-capping range I gave above, I'm well ahead, so I called.

Flop: ($1.27) 3:c Q:h J:s (2 players)
Turn: ($1.27) 9:d (2 players)
River: ($1.27) T:c (2 players)

Results: $1.27 pot ($0.08 rake)
Final Board: 3:c Q:h J:s 9:d T:c
SB showed 3:s 6:s and lost (-$0.60 net)
Hero showed K:c A:c and won $1.19 ($0.59 net)

My equity vs the expected open-capping range:

       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG    35.11%  33.58%   1.53% { JJ-99, AQs-ATs, AQo-ATo }
UTG+1  64.89%  63.36%   1.53% { AKs }

My equity vs his actual hand:

       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG    36.40%  36.13%   0.27% { 63s }
UTG+1  63.60%  63.33%   0.27% { AKs }

Are you as surprised as I am?

no.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by MisClick
Bah. It's north facing.

North views are the nuts in Vancouver.
Where I live -- to the east of the city proper -- it is mostly flat.

But this view shows why Vancouver is the most expensive Canadian city to live in


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by trickybob
My friend took this from a beach close to where I live yesterday.

Looks chilly to me. :coolface:


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trickybob
Joined: 28.07.2010

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by trickybob
My friend took this from a beach close to where I live yesterday.

Looks chilly to me. :coolface:

Bloody freezing - but it looks nice.

:f_biggrin:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

After work on Friday means I get to play 5-Card Draw against people up past midnight in Europe.

I played a session of 350-odd hands ( very odd hands ) before supper.
I was hitting some nice draws, and they were hitting nicer.

I could feel the old mental crap coming back, vowing to tighten up and getting the urge to bluff w/ Flush draw and what not.

I managed to logic myself back to an even keel and hung in there and got it all back -- except for one tablespoonful. Well done me.

After supper I played a short session where a few whales coughed up the ambergris for me and as the tables broke up I was well up on the day.

I *think* -- but I can't be sure -- that this is the first time I have ever brought myself back from tilt without taking a break. Supper doesn't count, because I came back BEFORE supper.

So I'm feeling pretty good about myself.

Very low volume week, though with the eye problem and all.

Oh -- and just to add icing to the cake I cashed in the zimmers tournament for the 2nd week running. Wow! Considering the world-class calibre of play at the zimmers, that rates as a real accomplishment!


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

A common quote thrown about is, "It's all one big session" -- or variations of it.

So much is different session to session though.

Who else is at the table is the biggest factor that determines how I play.

There are a lot of other factors, too that make one session quite different from another.

I *think* what that saying is meant to convey is that the ups and downs of variance all even out over time.

This came to mind this morning, while playing a 5-Card Draw "session".
I was down about 15 BB and was injecting logic so often I thought my veins would collapse. As it happens, I got my turn in the luckbox, and at one point was up about the same amount -- at this limit that is a $6.00 swing.
I thought of quitting at that point, but the "It's all one session" thought popped into my head.

However I had set out to do 500 hands. So I decided to finish them.
I was careful ( too careful ? ) not to let my success lead me into overconfidence, but even so, over the last 75 hands, lost consistently and ended up down about 4 BB

A friend of mine passed away this morning, after a terrifyingly short illness.
I saw her last on the 1st Sunday this month, and she was going in for a biopsy. She and her husband had only 3 weeks to say goodbye.

We have known them for over 30 years -- they were a tremendous inspiration to Mrs Vorpal and I when we were just getting going, and the going was rough.

As sad as it may be to die, all I can think about is how hard it is for those left behind.

If you love someone,. please tell them so -- as soon and as often as you can...

Thanks,
--VS


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MisClick
Joined: 30.05.2008

Sorry to hear about that :( Hugs :heart:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Do you believe in "variance"?

I mean really believe that when a player goes on huge downswing, that it is the cards fault -- and only the cards fault?

I must admit, I'm rather sceptical. Yeah, you might get a run of bad cards, but HOW you play the bad hands is as much poker "skill" as playing the good ones.

When is a run of bad luck a "downswing".

Last weekend, in the space of 2500 hands, I lost 1/4 of my bankroll playing the "low variance" 5-Card Draw.

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Since then, things are back to "normal" more-or-less.

It was horrible. I got very few decent hands. When I did get dealt high 2 pair, or trips, villain hit their flush, higher trips etc etc.

I ran a bunch of queries on my database to verify my perception that I was indeed getting fewer good hands, and whether I was losing more often when I did.

Right on both counts.

However when I looked today at HOW I played that day, after the first few shellackings, I was playing tentatively, check/calling after draw etc.

So even though I was not getting the hands, I was not playing my best either. I should read my tag line more often.

OTOH, this hand would brighten ANYONE's day:

once a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.
PokerStars Limit 5 Card Draw $0.10/$0.20 - 5 players

Button: $1.28
SB: $1.26
BB: $4.10 (Hero)
UTG: $5.11
CO: $1.92

Dealing Hands: ($0.15) J♦ 3♦ T♠ 6♣ 7♥ (5 players)
UTG calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero checks

First Draw: ($0.25) (2 players)
Hero discards 5, UTG discards 1,
|| K♦ K♥ K♠ A♠ K♣
Hero bets $0.20, UTG raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $0.60, UTG folds

Hero collected $1

(Rake: $0.05)

Since I went to high school w/ Olga Hornburg, I'm familiar w/ violent cows, but in case you've not had a similar experience...


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Do you believe in "variance"?

It's not a religion.

OTOH, this hand would brighten ANYONE's day:

I reckon it would have brightened it more if he'd called. Make a note and do it with air next time. _cool:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Do you believe in "variance"?

It's not a religion.

To whom then, is the appeal, "waaaannnn time!" directed, if not some deity?

OTOH, this hand would brighten ANYONE's day:

I reckon it would have brightened it more if he'd called. Make a note and do it with air next time. _cool:

That comment brought about an epiphany of sorts.

All players to some extent, wonder whether or not their hands measure up.
If you can increase their doubt to any significant degree, they will fold.

So I played my final $0.10/$0.20 session of 5-Card Draw a bit more aggressively.

On steal attempts from SB, for example, I just 3Bet, D1 and CBet
Easy game.

Since AJxxx is the halfway point of all hands, I was raising AQxxx and up from the SB. I had to fold to a few 3Bets, but overall, v +EV


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