Never deposit - ZOOM poker (i'm back! ...maybe)

going to write a little something on "playing tired", whatever i feel like writing... writing this on only 4 hours of sleep as well ♦

month so far (don't think i've played my A-game for even one session):

how does that even work? i think that the most important thing is to have a solid abc foundation on which you can rely on.
going to expand a bit:

- even on zoom25 most regs still are worse than abc so that solid abc makes a profit there are a few really good ones which i'd easily consider better than me but the huuuuuge majority are barely ok or just bad.
- keep it simple and FOLD marginal spots. when tired you're more vulnerable to tilt and mood swings, so even if a marginal herocall might be +EV in vacuum it doesn't make up for the emotional loss when you are wrong.
- tiredness gives you a good picture of your C- game, so it's interesting to review the sessions and mentally take notes of what you are doing different to "optimal" so that you keep improving the worst end of your game as well.

what's my point? idk i think that improving your C- game isn't something that is talked about much, gl cya

You can play abc poker (as you call it) up to high stakes.

Look at HansTheGreat's blog if you don't believe me. Fancy/spewy plays is pretty much never the best decision; especially at nl25-10.

Keep going your blog is gold sir.

OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK
fish and reg alike hit literally every hand where i had something what the fucking fuck

first the whales

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 107.32 BB
SB: 100.4 BB
BB: 108.52 BB
UTG: 260.4 BB
Hero (MP): 99 BB
CO: 84 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T♠ 9♠

fold, Hero raises to 2.76 BB, CO calls 2.76 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.76 BB

Flop: (8.68 BB, 3 players) 6♠ K♦ K♠
BB checks, Hero bets 4.52 BB, CO calls 4.52 BB, fold

Turn: (17.72 BB, 2 players) Q♠
Hero bets 15.72 BB, CO calls 15.72 BB

River: (49.16 BB, 2 players) 8♦
Hero bets 39.48 BB, CO calls 39.48 BB

Hero shows T♠ 9♠ (Flush, King High) (Pre 51%, Flop 2%, Turn 2%)
CO shows 6♥ 6♣ (Full House, Sixes full of Kings) (Pre 49%, Flop 98%, Turn 98%)
CO wins 122.36 BB

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 346.36 BB
Hero (SB): 147.8 BB
BB: 222.08 BB
UTG: 63.8 BB
MP: 322.12 BB
CO: 161.56 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♠ 9♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.4 BB, BB calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (4.8 BB, 2 players) K♠ 7♥ 9♠
Hero bets 3.16 BB, BB calls 3.16 BB

Turn: (11.12 BB, 2 players) J♣
Hero bets 9.84 BB, BB calls 9.84 BB

River: (30.8 BB, 2 players) 3♠
Hero bets 15.6 BB, BB calls 15.6 BB

Hero shows J♠ 9♥ (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines) (Pre 36%, Flop 63%, Turn 9%)
BB shows T♦ Q♠ (Straight, King High) (Pre 64%, Flop 37%, Turn 91%)
BB wins 59.2 BB

now the regs

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101.68 BB
SB: 120.76 BB
Hero (BB): 150.56 BB
UTG: 445.64 BB
MP: 79.8 BB
CO: 123.72 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♣ A♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) J♥ T♠ K♠
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 5♣
SB bets 13.04 BB, Hero calls 13.04 BB

River: (44.08 BB, 2 players) 2♠
SB checks, Hero bets 15.12 BB, SB calls 15.12 BB

Hero shows K♣ A♥ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 75%, Flop 9%, Turn 3%)
SB shows Q♥ A♣ (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 25%, Flop 91%, Turn 97%)
SB wins 70.96 BB

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 169.36 BB
SB: 110.28 BB
Hero (BB): 115.56 BB
UTG: 215.2 BB
MP: 338.32 BB
CO: 339.92 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ 6♠

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 6.8 BB, BTN calls 4.8 BB

Flop: (14 BB, 2 players) 6♣ 8♥ A♣
Hero bets 8.4 BB, BTN raises to 25.6 BB, Hero calls 17.2 BB

Turn: (65.2 BB, 2 players) 5♦
Hero checks, BTN bets 54.4 BB, Hero raises to 83.16 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 28.76 BB

River: (231.52 BB, 2 players) K♥

Hero shows A♦ 6♠ (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes) (Pre 29%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows 8♣ 8♠ (Three of a Kind, Eights) (Pre 71%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins 223.52 BB

fucking coolered out of my profits
alright i feel better now ♦

the fucking swongs

villain is a reg that's actually not retarded, don't expect him to call a single Kx ott.
so river is fucking sick ofc, if i shove i don't expect to be called by worse, but if i check i may or may not induce a bluff from diamonds. i really wanted to fold tbh...

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99.6 BB
SB: 118.4 BB
BB: 132.44 BB
UTG: 66.72 BB
Hero (MP): 197.48 BB
CO: 111.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♣ J♣

fold, Hero raises to 2.76 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.76 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.92 BB, 2 players) 3♦ K♦ T♥
Hero bets 4.52 BB, BTN calls 4.52 BB

Turn: (15.96 BB, 2 players) Q♥
Hero checks, BTN bets 9.88 BB, Hero raises to 34 BB, BTN requests TIME, BTN calls 24.12 BB

River: (83.96 BB, 2 players) K♥
Hero checks, BTN bets 58.32 BB and is all-in, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls 58.32 BB

BTN shows K♣ Q♣ (Full House, Kings full of Queens) (Pre 39%, Flop 77%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows A♣ J♣ (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 61%, Flop 23%, Turn 91%)
BTN wins 192.6 BB

shoutouts to regfish
is river too thin as QT completes? i'm not sure but no no fucks given

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 59.64 BB
SB: 23.36 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 176.92 BB
Hero (MP): 194.08 BB
CO: 105.88 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♥ A♠

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 12.84 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 9.84 BB

Flop: (27.08 BB, 2 players) J♠ 4♦ K♥
UTG checks, Hero bets 17.76 BB, UTG calls 17.76 BB

Turn: (62.6 BB, 2 players) 3♦
UTG checks, Hero bets 39.48 BB, UTG calls 39.48 BB

River: (141.56 BB, 2 players) 9♠
UTG checks, Hero bets 124 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 106.84 BB and is all-in

Hero shows A♥ A♠ (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 88%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
UTG shows K♣ A♣ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 12%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 347.24 BB

that's way too much action before going to sleep, i'll just call it a day.

Hey, just having a mooch at yr blog. Not really poker related but I could watch that traffic barrier clip all day. #(fail^2)

Originally posted by Tomaloc
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99.6 BB
SB: 118.4 BB
BB: 132.44 BB
UTG: 66.72 BB
Hero (MP): 197.48 BB
CO: 111.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♣ J♣

fold, Hero raises to 2.76 BB, fold, BTN calls 2.76 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.92 BB, 2 players) 3♦ K♦ T♥
Hero bets 4.52 BB, BTN calls 4.52 BB

Turn: (15.96 BB, 2 players) Q♥
Hero checks, BTN bets 9.88 BB, Hero raises to 34 BB, BTN requests TIME, BTN calls 24.12 BB

River: (83.96 BB, 2 players) K♥
Hero checks, BTN bets 58.32 BB and is all-in, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls 58.32 BB

BTN shows K♣ Q♣ (Full House, Kings full of Queens) (Pre 39%, Flop 77%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows A♣ J♣ (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 61%, Flop 23%, Turn 91%)
BTN wins 192.6 BB

This one was interesting.

Here's the range I gave him after calling the turn bet

Made hands:
All KQo and KQs boats 8 combos
KTs boats 2 combos

Scrap:
A:dT:d 1 combo
QTs 3 combos
Q:dJ:d 1 combo
J:d:T:d 1 combo

I think QTs makes a decent x behind. So now he can bet profitably with the rest of his range.
So calling with AJs clubs or spades is a meh 0 ev decision. It turns into a negative ev decision when:
-Villain doesn't bluff enough with his shitty 1 pair hands, i.e his J:dT:d, because he thinks its more +ev to take his showdown value verse yoru bluffs, is never bluffing rivers and is afraid of a royal flush.

Calling with A:d:J:d is a very -ev decision because it blocks his good bluffing hands.

Nobody seems to post much in the blogs I'm subscribed to, so I'm looking for some new ones to entertain me. Don't let me down. No pressure.

Originally posted by jules97

Spoiler

This one was interesting.

Here's the range I gave him after calling the turn bet

Made hands:
All KQo and KQs boats 8 combos
KTs boats 2 combos

Scrap:
A:dT:d 1 combo
QTs 3 combos
Q:dJ:d 1 combo
J:d:T:d 1 combo

I think QTs makes a decent x behind. So now he can bet profitably with the rest of his range.
So calling with AJs clubs or spades is a meh 0 ev decision. It turns into a negative ev decision when:
-Villain doesn't bluff enough with his shitty 1 pair hands, i.e his J:dT:d, because he thinks its more +ev to take his showdown value verse yoru bluffs, is never bluffing rivers and is afraid of a royal flush.

Calling with A:d:J:d is a very -ev decision because it blocks his good bluffing hands.

thanks, looks reasonable to me.
i forgot to consider his counterfeit 2p in play but as population read i think that most players are just taking their freesd... which would make it more of a fold, but yeah

Originally posted by jbpatzer
Nobody seems to post much in the blogs I'm subscribed to, so I'm looking for some new ones to entertain me. Don't let me down. No pressure.
alright, but you're subject to having to wait until i feel like updating, which happens... whenever i feel like it

i prefer to whine about bad days and making it seem like i run worse than i actually do. not that i don't run bad obv!

Oh man, I love that blog. I woke my girlfriend up because I laughed too hard. :DDD

I'm still on NL2, but I think I will move up higher soon, as soon the BR allows me. Are you still interested in a learning group? If so, I sent you a request

Originally posted by KingKas
Oh man, I love that blog. I woke my girlfriend up because I laughed too hard. :DDD

I'm still on NL2, but I think I will move up higher soon, as soon the BR allows me. Are you still interested in a learning group? If so, I sent you a request
hey, thanks a lot ♦
and nah i'm not really interested in groups anymore, but thanks for the offer and best of luck!

so, what's with the lack of updates? idk you should probably blame jb's bad luck
not playing much, mostly "working on my game" (whatever that means), going to test some "new ideas"...

on a way more relevant topic, i'm facing the really tough decision of choosing my next pokerstars avatar. oh my god that takes me at least one hour every single time

easy game

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 289.88 BB
SB: 119.16 BB
BB: 87.24 BB
UTG: 205.8 BB
Hero (MP): 303.88 BB
CO: 131.04 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 5♠ 5♥

fold, Hero raises to 2.4 BB, CO calls 2.4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (7.6 BB, 3 players) K♣ Q♠ 5♣
BB checks, Hero bets 7.24 BB, CO calls 7.24 BB, fold

Turn: (22.08 BB, 2 players) 7♥
Hero bets 21.08 BB, CO calls 21.08 BB

River: (64.24 BB, 2 players) 8♠
Hero bets 53.48 BB, CO calls 53.48 BB

Hero shows 5♠ 5♥ (Three of a Kind, Fives) (Pre 53%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)
CO mucks K♦ J♥ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 47%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 163.48 BB

not that easy

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 212.6 BB
SB: 99 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 102.72 BB
Hero (CO): 104.84 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♦ Q♣

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.28 BB, fold, SB raises to 7.84 BB, fold, Hero raises to 17.76 BB, SB calls 9.92 BB

Flop: (36.52 BB, 2 players) 2♣ Q♠ 3♠
SB checks, Hero bets 11.48 BB, SB raises to 27 BB, Hero calls 15.52 BB

Turn: (90.52 BB, 2 players) T♠
SB bets 54.24 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 86.44 BB

life's okay i guess

♦ ♦ ♦

GLGLGL

thanks guys ♦

in this post i'll talk about how to make your red line go down by being aggressive:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 113.92 BB
SB: 102.32 BB
BB: 120.36 BB
UTG: 76.48 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 164.84 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♣ 5♣

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.04 BB, fold, BB raises to 7.6 BB, Hero raises to 17.28 BB, BB calls 9.68 BB

Flop: (34.96 BB, 2 players) J♦ Q♣ 5♥
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (34.96 BB, 2 players) A♥
BB bets 19 BB, fold

BB wins 33.4 BB

3betting a nit with 75s is also a bad idea:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 169.48 BB
SB: 126.48 BB
Hero (BB): 104.24 BB
UTG: 110.2 BB
MP: 188.52 BB
CO: 134.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7♣ 5♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3.2 BB, Hero raises to 9.6 BB, SB raises to 126.48 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 19.2 BB

wtf was i thinking? i know actually, but it was stupid ♦

In hand 1 I'd just cbet. You have five direct outs and backdoor flush and straight equity. If you're not cbetting that hand, what are you cbetting? And don't give me that 'showdown value' nonsense. You know he's betting the turn and you're folding.

nah i didn't think about that "sdv nonsense", at the time i just thought i was screwed against his range ofc cbetting is better specially considering how little he has to fold for autoprofit + i most often get to see all community cards.

depending on mood i post bad hands or good hands or both, these are bad ones ofc.

just love this thread.
+10000000

In hand 1

I think it's a pretty bad flop to cbet. What does cbetting achieve? Looks to me like it would be burning money with shallow stacks.

It hits his range so hard, AQ, KQs, sets, some overpairs. What hands is the average guy here calling a 4bet with and then folding on that flop? Maybe TT. Pretty hard to find much of anything anything. So he's maybe folding about 20% of the time.

I prefer checking back heros entire range on the flop. If he has AJs or TT, the hands he 'might but probably wont fold', he's going to let you see a river anyways.

lol pokertracker update

pros: database performance when browsing is very good, specially custom stats performance is awesome
cons: well... it doesn't work?

thankfully i did the right thing(tm) and decided to make a new database for this update.
reimporting my hands took literally over 6 times as long compared to the previous version (which isn't an isolated issue at all apparently), but hey ok, it's worth it... right?

NO! when you're playing the program can't keep up either
after everything was done i decided to play a session (hey, it took literally over a day to reimport the hands, i missed pokers) and the program can't keep up with importing the hands in realtime anymore for some reason, which is no isolated issue either.
so you can have an idea, i actually finished this session at ~11:10 am:

last hand

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 83.76 BB
SB: 103.08 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 106.6 BB
MP: 106.76 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 5♥ 5♣

Hero raises to 2.76 BB, fold, CO calls 2.76 BB, fold, SB calls 2.36 BB, BB calls 1.76 BB

Flop: (11.04 BB, 4 players) 2♠ 8♥ 5♠
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 7.52 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 21.6 BB, Hero calls 14.08 BB

Turn: (54.24 BB, 2 players) T♦
BB bets 41.6 BB, Hero raises to 82.24 BB and is all-in, BB calls 34.04 BB and is all-in

River: (205.52 BB, 2 players) Q♣
Players agreed to run it twice.

River #2: (205.52 BB, 2 players) K♠

BB shows 8♦ 8♠ (Three of a Kind, Eights)Board #1 (Pre 80%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)Board #2 (Pre 80%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
Hero shows 5♥ 5♣ (Three of a Kind, Fives)Board #1 (Pre 20%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)Board #2 (Pre 20%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
BB wins 98.76 BB
BB wins 98.76 BB

fuck this game
was there really not a better time to press that "set over set" button? ♦

Originally posted by Tomaloc
lol pokertracker update

pros: database performance when browsing is very good, specially custom stats performance is awesome
cons: well... it doesn't work?

Lol. Works for me. Unlucky. ♠_evil: