funny ICM spot

Originally posted by onetwo78
hi,

I had a very funny hand. 888 small field tourney, stupid pay-out structure.
First 6 places is paid, from 6: 75$ up to 1.: 395$

There are 3 players on the other table:
BU: 7bb
SB: 32bb
BB: 16bb

The hand:
888 Poker - $23+$2|400/800 Ante 80 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 6,624
SB: 19,454
Hero (BB): 2,639
CO: 18,102

4 players post ante of 80, SB posts SB 400, Hero posts BB 800

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,520) Hero has 2♠ K♠

fold, fold, SB raises to 1,600,
on the other table: BU folded, 32bb SB pushed, BB is waiting. I have less time-bank, that's why I choosed just calling

Hero calls 800

Flop: (3,520, 2 players) K♣ 4♣ 7♥
SB bets 1,760,
on the other table: BB finally called with TTvAKo, Board: Axxxx, BB out.

Hero has 959 chips left. Call or fold? :):)

Hi, onetwo78,
Disclaimer: I am NOT a coach!

Just focusing on this table for a moment:
You are BB, so you post 800 chips.
This leaves you 1839

So "just calling" puts almost half your chips at risk.
This is the bubble?
I think push or fold are the only two options, and this is the weakest K you can have.

I'm really curious to see what the judge thinks...
--VS

hi

yes it is bubble, if I lost, I would win nothing, If I fold I would win at least 75$

Hi,

Consider you only have 3bb then I would just go with K2s pre-flop. Since you flop top pair it is easy all-in and likely if you hadn´t flop top pair I would still call my last 1bb with K high.
You´re going to be all-in in 3 hands and it is unlikely that someone is busting before you, so I would rather take my double up with K2s than wait better spot

best regards,

Yes, usually go ai pre with K2s, but here i was watching the other table. Firstly i have just seen that SB went ai and BB was waiting for me. I had less time, that's why just called. After that BB also went ai, and he lost with TTvsAK. Now i am with K3 on Kxx flop. If i win, i have 75$ and 7 bbs. If i lost, I wont win anything.

I like the way you approached the spot and Id just fold the flop

Hi all,

I don't think that's how hand for hand works. This would need doublechecking but I think that one of two things happens:

guy who busts first gets KO'd.
both people who bust chop the last prize payout.

I don't think it takes into account stacksizes if people are on different tables.

Of course, this could be different on different sites. I think that in both my cases we have a clear call.

But if the rules are that you get nothing if you lose, then a fold is good yes.

On stars if 2+ players bust in same hand player with smaler stack is bubble boy

I think it is true for the other pokersites also

Just checked on Pokerstars it's definitely done on chipstacks, if both are on simultaneous hands. On 888 well... they do things differently there...