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What to do with KK

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$0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$6.28:///////;SB$5.30:///////;BB$4.76:///////;UTG1 (Hero)$5.31:///////;UTG2$5.56:///////;MP1$9.03:///////;MP2$4.05:///////;MP3$10.84:///////;CO$11.07:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with K:d, K:c.
Hero raises to $0.15, 6 folds, SB raises to $0.60, BB folds, Hero raises to $1.10, SB raises to $2.52, Hero folds, SB gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: $1.13.

Last 10k hand i ran into AA 6 times, so i decided to make more folds w KK. I think it's will make me more money (and less variance in the long run). Villain her is 10/7 with 7% 3b/0% 4b+ (200 hands). He 3bets vs my 9% opening range UTG/ so i decided to make a small 3b and string along TT-QQ and AKs and fold to 5bshove. Should i 4bet fold here with KK or better to call his (not so tight) 3betting range? I've shown alot of strenght with my hand, so i expect him to have KK+ maybe even only AA


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not like your game and sizings. If you are 4 betting, make it 2.5x - $1.50.
If you are that afraid and vs a rock, why don't you just call and play IP?


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

For 200 hands you do not have reads to make you fold KK preflop.


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excitedpoker
Joined: 12.08.2010

Definately don`t 4bet it vs 10/7, you don`t need any reads he is very nitty and won`t 3bet/stack off vs UTG with any worse. Flat 3bet IP looks great, 4bet/folding is a bluff and it sucks.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by VaskataBuci
For 200 hands you do not have reads to make you fold KK preflop.

Hi, Hendrikpoewz,
Disclaimer: I am NOT a coach!

At PokerStrategy.com the strategy advocated is "TAG" -- Tight Aggressive.

However it is possible to be too tight. I don't play 9-handed any more, so I can't comment on whether 10/7 is too tight, but it seems so to me.

Regardless, I agree with nitro that your cold 4Bet needs to be substantial to carry any authority.
Betting less than 3x vs a 3Bet is going to induce a shove almost every time. If that is what you were trying to do, wp.

But at NL 5 you just can't 4Bet/fold KK.

At whatever limit you play, from NL 2 to NL 1000, you should be able to toss a stack on the table on KK pre-flop in any cash game -- without worrying at all whether you win or lose.

If you are worried about win or lose, that is a mental game issue that needs to be addressed, but that is a topic for a different discussion.

Let's say the 3Bet comes from a guy who can do this with QQ+,AK+
You're ahead of that range:

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    57.19%  54.62%   2.57% { KK }
MP3    42.81%  40.24%   2.57% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

Best of luck,
VS;


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

They also sit there with their HUD's and see that you 4-bet-folded 5/8 in 876 hands, so don't think they wont try to exploit you.


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stefan275
Joined: 25.06.2014

I think we should call pre-flop, and then one of the following streets if nits they raise then consider that you're beaten especially if Board is Ax. I don't think I should fold preflop Cowboys. :gl: :fouet: :banana:


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I think we definitelly shouldn't 4bet bluff with KK. As other said, the 4bet sizing is also bad. Since we decided to 4bet, we have to shove to his 5bet. Yes, we sometimes run into AA and sometimes it's happening repeatedly and I totally understand you, but it's just a variance. At the end of the day (to be more precise - probably a year ), this play will be most profitable.


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