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6max, overpair vs cbet

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Zanardi1
Joined: 04.01.2010

Pacific, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $3.90 (97.5 bb)
BB: $4 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG): $4.85 (121.3 bb)
MP: $4.06 (101.5 bb)
CO: $6.26 (156.5 bb)
BTN: $10.45 (261.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T T
Hero raises to $0.12, MP calls $0.12, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.48, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.36, MP folds

Flop: ($1.14) 4 5 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.85, Hero folds

Results: $1.14 pot ($0.05 rake)
Final Board: 4 5 2
Hero mucked T T and lost (-$0.48 net)
BTN mucked and won $1.09 ($0.61 net)

The button is 25/18 from 922 hands, squeeze: 4% (55), cbet: 46% (57%), cbet in 3bet pots: 66%(3), Afq%=28%.
MP is 28/19 from 210 hands, Afq%: 26.7%

Preflop: I open-raised, because I thought I have the best hand most of the time there. After I got squeezed, I called to setmine.

I miss the flop and the wild button bets. Here I am in a dilemma: given his low squeeze, he clearly has high cards, so he may have JJ+. But he also may have broadways, who missed the flop completely. If I c/c here, I might aswell do that to the river, if no scare cards appear. But if I do, I'll play for a growing pot, OOP and will be forced to fold. I could c/r, because he missed there most of the time, but I am not sure what he might do, because I am OOP.

My questions are:

  • Is 10-10 a good hand to open from EP, having these two types of players acting after me?
  • What to do on the flop?

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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Openning TT from the UTG is never a mistake, imo, but when we face a raise, we don't need to call every time. In this case I think it's fine to call. We are a bit deep, so we have better implied odds. Also, it's possible that the MP calls, too. Although, he might decide to 4bet sometimes, but I don't think it will happen very often. The BTN doesn't squeeze alot, which also increases our implieds if we hit a set. When we call a 3bet preflop to setmine, a standard play when we miss is to give up on further aggression, so I think that check/folding on the flop is fine. Sometimes he will check back, in which case we can bet the turn with an overpair for protection.


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sketchzr
Joined: 12.08.2009

TT is always a good hand to open and it's generally standard to flatcall a 3-bet with TT too. What hands do you think he's betting this board texture with? I think I would call this flop.


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Zanardi1
Joined: 04.01.2010

Originally posted by sketchzr
What hands do you think he's betting this board texture with?

Overpairs and broadways.


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Lathdari
Joined: 07.10.2014

OR is good. I think the call is doubtful, as you're asked to pay $0.36 when the effective stack remaining will be $4.37, which only gives you a ratio of 12. BTN looks like he only squeezes for value and against a range like {TT+, AK, AQs} you're well behind (and OOP), so I would fold. As played, this is a good fold. I don't think we can assume he cbets his entire range here and even if he does it's doubtful.


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LuckyManFromLT
Joined: 12.11.2013

Open pre is good. I'm pretty sure that you can fold this hand vs sqz pre for a couple of reasons:
1) BU is squeezing tight, sample size is small , but still IMO he will be sqz very tight given these positons.
2) You will be oop
3)MP will join a lot of the time

For me this looks like bad spot to call a sqz.

I would call JJ-QQ,AK/AQs, 4b bluff maybe 1/2 combos of AQo and 4b for value AA/KK.

As played, I'm folding vs such huge sizing.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Vs that tight squeezer, we are set mining with our hand.


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Lathdari
Joined: 07.10.2014

We hit our set (or better) 11.7% of the time. We pay $0.36 to see the flop. To be profitable our expected return when we hit a set must be more than $3.08. There's already $1.14 in the pot. If on average we take half the effective stack, we end up with exactly $3.08 after rake. We also need to consider the possibility that we lose our stack if our set is not be the best hand (I assume we will stack off on a board with one or more overcards or a monochrome board). I would guess that we need to be about 75% confident that at least one villain will stack off against us when we hit for this to be profitable. Even if that's true it's going to be a marginal call and in an uncertain situation which is at best marginal, I like to fold.


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