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[Full-Ring] I few days ago i would never make this fold

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 286 BB (VPIP: 34.11, PFR: 23.26, 3Bet Preflop: 11.90, Hands: 130)
Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 8.24, PFR: 7.06, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
SB: 45.5 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 6.38, PFR: 4.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
UTG: 120 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 3.64, Hands: 155)
UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ J♣

fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 5 BB, fold, MP calls 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (16 BB, 3 players) 4♥ 9♠ A♥
SB bets 7 BB, MP calls 7 BB, fold

Spoiler

Turn: (30 BB, 2 players) 7♣
SB bets 21 BB, MP calls 21 BB

River: (72 BB, 2 players) Q♥
SB checks, MP bets 34.5 BB, SB calls 12.5 BB and is all-in

MP shows 8♥ T♥ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 42%, Flop 35%, Turn 31%)
SB shows A♠ K♥ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 58%, Flop 65%, Turn 69%)
MP wins 93.5 BB

My Thoughts: After the preflop re-raiser betting and MP calling, i could not few good about my hand. I felt good about this fold cause its something i would never be able to do only a few days ago, not so easily. Is that really that easy of a fold?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

SB has a short stack, I would assume he is a fish. He also seems to play very tight (although you only have 15 hands of him). His min 3bet looks like he wants to increase the pot but wants you both to call = he has nuts.. When he donks OTF it is reasonable to assume he has AA,AK,AQ. He could still be betting a flush draw or lower pocket pair here?

I think you could call one street but folding is totally fine.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

It's not reasonable to assume he had premium hands since you've got barely 15 hands on him, moreover it indicates he's poor thinking and playing with him in 2way built pot would be very profitable.


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Afulibador
Joined: 21.08.2009

xavez0, I really liked ur fold.
Made me remenber when I folded top two pair w AQ ott in a mwp in this same kind of spot... two guys before me playing, were one bet big and the other called. Ended up one having trips and the other full house. Surely a good feeling.

Keep it going man, good poker is what we all are looking for here _thumbsup:


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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

Great fold.

We cannot fold pre for a minraise (pretty much ever, even if we are sure he has AA) simply because of the massive implied odds for a good flop (flushy straighty or the good old exposed trips).

However we don't call to hit an ace and pay streets. We called to hit something better. Muck it and wait for the next time.

The good news is often when you call that minraise and flop a big flop, the players who make such minraises are also the players that overplay AA to the hilt. You'll get all in and collect a stack.

Edit - my minimum for continuing on the flop here as played is a gutter with a backdoor flush (I'd call 7BB with that). Your ace is only continuing if it is a two pair flop or "pair and a flush draw".


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Folding pre should not come to mind at all.
Totally agree with the fold on flop. Well played.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

And don't forget the third guy. His flop call should mean that he likes his hand. Generally, overcalling requires much more than calling, so good fold on a situational read.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Very disciplined and correct flop fold.


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