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zoom CC 3b IP AKc, river vs donk

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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $14.75 (59 bb)
BB: $24.90 (99.6 bb) 29/23 3b 10.3 for 140 hands
UTG: $26.03 (104.1 bb)
MP: $35.02 (140.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $30.68 (122.7 bb)
BTN: $16.03 (64.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♣ K♣
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, 2 folds, BB raises to $1.96, Hero calls $1.34

Flop: ($4.02) K♦ 5♣ T♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.95, BB calls $1.95

Turn: ($7.92) K♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.85, BB calls $3.85

River: ($15.62) J♣ (2 players)
BB bets $12.75, Hero folds

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Results: $15.62 pot ($0.70 rake)
Final Board: K♦ 5♣ T♦ K♥ J♣
BB mucked and won $14.92 ($7.16 net)
Hero mucked A♣ K♣ and lost (-$7.76 net)

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duder1n0
Joined: 07.07.2009

Is it on purpose you don't write any of your thoughts? Anyway, I don't get this hand... Why not 4bet/broke preflop? Why fold river?


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

Hi,

Though process would be important to improve your game, as duder1n0 said. And I agree with him, 4-bet pre-flop would be the best option, but as played, I think you need to bet bigger on flop at least. River is a bit mystery spot, but I could see him doing it with even worse Kx hands that he could bluff 3-bet and play pot control. AQ doesn't seem too likely, JJ is possible at least. But I think we have a call for the Kxs fact here.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I agree - we should get it in preflop and not fold on river.


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

I think that 4bet or call are both fine, surely 4bet is standard.

flop I would bet when floating by default around 33% pot, would increase sizes if he calls on later streets.
river, I think fold is fine, it is hard to put him on any bluff, and his value range is TT, JJ, could also play some AQ that way (would be solid play, but seen mostly on higher limits), and AK he could be also playing that way, some other Kx, sure he could, players are overplaying hands all day long, so I wouldnt be folding.


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Thanks guys,
As you can see his stats for small size are showing me, that he's pretty agro preflop, but his aggression post was pretty low 1.5AF. I though, that IP with suited AK I'm going to get more value, instead of folding him and so on. Flop and turn were both standart value bets for me on such of draw board. But on the river all get there KT,KJ, Q9d, AQd, TT, JJ and he donk pushed to me so I snap fold.


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

I though, that IP with suited AK I'm going to get more value, instead of folding him and so on.

if he is agro preflop, it makes sense that you 4bet AK.
If he is passive postflop, it doesnt make sense to slowplay hands, since you will not get much value from bluffs which you intend to keep in the hand by calling preflop. so everything tells that you should 4bet. anyway you tell that the sample size is small, so you can just ignore small sample size stats, so I would use just info on vpip and pfr to at least get to know if he is fish or reg.


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