KK 3bet pot

16/12 reg shouldn't have hands in his 3bet calling range that hit this flop. Most likely he has overpair like TT-QQ or AhXh which has flush draw and gutshot. I would shove on top.

Hero raises to $10.92 and is all-in, CO calls $8.78

Turn: ($23.61) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($23.61) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

yeah i thought the same, board dont hit him...doe he shoved 22..

137 hand sampleisnot enough to say he willnot have hands that hit this board.
We should call and see the turn, imo.

I agree with la55i, we should be ahead of his range here with the information given. If we think he won't raise/fold his overpairs, shove is fine.

If we are not ahead, then we should not raise. Thus we will fold the hands we beat.

There is 2,3 and 5 on the board. Calling 3bet with 22 or 33 is pretty loose. I think 137 hand is enough for us to say villain is tight. If we shove we won't fold out every worse hand. Flush draws will call, especially AhXh that has gutshot+FD.

What worse hands are calling the shove?
QQ-JJ maybe, maybe not...

QQ-JJ, AhKh,AhQh will call. I'm happy to take down the pot here. Third heart is not so good for us.

You ask what worse hands will call if we shove. I ask what better hands he has here?
If we assume he can have 22,33 we can as well assume he has KhQh,AhJh and other broadways with FD.

MP2 45.16% 42.30% 2.86% KdKs
MP3 54.84% 51.98% 2.86% JJ+, 55, 33-22, AhKh, AhQh, KhQh, AhJh

Now we are assuming that he doesn't 4bet KK+? We can't put him on a range that everyone agrees on but shove should be fine.

Maybe it will. I prefer calling.

Nitrol, that range estimate is not that good because you don't weight the possibilities. Say QQ makes 65% sense, but AA and 22 make 10% sense. (Never mind the literal numbers.) Don't you agree?

Don't know which play is right though.

That is right..

QQ-JJ,55,AdAh,AdAs,KhKc,3d3c,3h3c,3s3c,2d2c,2h2c,2s2c,AhKh,AhQh,KhQh

Here is only a few combos of AA,22,33 and all 55. I included KhQh but not AhJh. Against this range we have 53%.

Call otf and x/shove any non heart/non A turn? Puts villain into a tough spot with his Ax heart hands and we dont completely isolate ourself vs sets otf.

+ if he calls ott with A flushdraws we have a lot more equity as there is only 1 card to come.

Originally posted by YohanN7
Nitrol, that range estimate is not that good because you don't weight the possibilities. Say QQ makes 65% sense, but AA and 22 make 10% sense. (Never mind the literal numbers.) Don't you agree?

Don't know which play is right though.

I am not sure too so prefer the little risk...

Call otf and x/shove any non heart/non A turn?

I was in first place asking because of this line.

If we call, we got smknd of "equity shift". Or am i wrong? But again shoving is reasonable cause most time we will get in in vs. QQ/JJ and Axh.

Hello,
imho min3bet/call is better than call flop.
Vs this range (we saw oppo raising with overpair) we are ahead:

Board: 5h3h2s
Equity Win Pareggio
MP2 62.34% 60.39% 1.95% { KdKh }
MP3 37.66% 35.71% 1.95% { 77+, 55, 33-22, A4s, AhKh, AhQh, KhQh, AhJh, KhJh, QhJh, AhTh, QhTh, JhTh, Th9h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 7h6h, Ah2h }

If we call only on the flop, an overcard on the turn can freeze the action and oppo could not broke flop (i.e. a J on the turn vs 77-TT) and on a turn "non heart" probably he doesn't broke with his draws, so we risk to loss value if we call only on the flop.
Sorry for my bad english...