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KJs river fold?

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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

In OOP KJs preflop is too weak for the call in multiway pot? And if don't, post flop river should fold? I hit some combo, QJ, J10, J8 Jand maybe he had too KJ. He has MP PFR 19% and wonsd 60% about 2000 hands.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)
BB: $7.29 (145.8 bb)
UTG+1: $7.62 (152.4 bb)
UTG+2: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
MP1: $6.19 (123.8 bb)
MP2: $5.04 (100.8 bb)
MP3: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $5.47 (109.4 bb)
BTN: $5.19 (103.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♣: J♣:
4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.12, CO folds, BTN calls $0.12, Hero calls $0.10, BB folds

Flop: ($0.41) J♥: A♣: J♠: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.41) 9♠: (3 players)
Hero bets $0.32, MP3 calls $0.32, BTN folds

River: ($1.05) 4♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

Results:

Spoiler

$2.45 pot ($0.10 rake)
Final Board: J♥: A♣: J♠: 9♠: 4♠:
Hero mucked K♣: J♣: and lost (-$1.14 net)
MP3 showed J♦: A♠: and won $2.35 ($1.21 net)


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

If you check here think about what he can possibly bet
Ax hands are probably checking back
so are hands like KK QQ
flushes beat you
And he can't really have much else when he calls your large bet with a player still left to act behind him
So I think if we check it is to check/fold to a 70% bet

Better yet at NL5 where people tend to call too much and don't raise enough I'd go with a small-ish bet myself and fold to a raise
How much depends on your opponent, but anything in the vicinity of 25-50% of the pot should be good


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GridironAssassin
Joined: 19.12.2014

Preflop is kinda meh......yes pot odds are better MW but equity distribution changes quite a bit when it’s not heads up. Calling out of SB isn’t something I do too often and it depends on the BB usually. Don’t want to to get squeezed by an aggressive BB. In BB, calling all day here.

Flop good....turn good.....river I usually bet with the logic that all the hands that will call a bet will probably check back on the river when the scary flush card hits. It’s good to extract a little bit more value when they have QJ, JT, AK, AQ, AT. My plan would be to bet/fold. It’s maybe a bit thin but I like it better than the check/call


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Thank you! I thought, he maybe played this board Axs and I didn't want chance to give him check/raise. Maybe he thought flush scary me and if he raise i fold. But this thinking is bad, especially micro limit. It was maybe one big mistake yestarday. But now i think so better river move bet/fold. But i which prefer better suited broadways, than 45s-109s and some two grapped suited connectors, 46s-108s. Broadway suited where i know i have got nut or 2 nut flush or straight and sometimes micro limit enough top pair. And maybe good call CO or BU in mw pot, J10s-KQs? I played so many hands 45s-109s and lot of times i ran into better flush and straight or better kicker if i had three of kind. I know small and middle suited connector rarely dominate but rarely won big pot.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Preflop is fine to call and see a flop. Nothing meh about it.
Postflop I agree with Lemon.


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ChristopherMartin
Joined: 17.03.2018