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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Maybe folded post flop, but why i raise 4bet if i fold the flop when ace comes. And if he had aces probablyhe went push all in pre flop. So he 4bet range, QQ, KK or AK. Or not. And funny too lose that. Of course he got the one of out. He had week rec, 6500 hands 18/15 and wonsd 40%, 4bet range 1. Is this folded post flop week rec or not?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $5.41 (108.2 bb)
BB: $11.96 (239.2 bb)
MP1: $3.37 (67.4 bb)
Hero (MP2): $5.32 (106.4 bb)
MP3: $1.59 (31.8 bb)
CO: $7.55 (151 bb)
BTN: $10.31 (206.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♠: K♣:
MP1 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.52, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.90, BTN calls $1.38

Flop: ($3.87) A♦: T♣: 6♣: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.45, Hero raises to $3.42 and is all-in, BTN calls $0.97

Turn: ($10.71) K♦: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($10.71) 5♦: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$10.71 pot ($0.44 rake)
Final Board: A♦: T♣: 6♣: K♦: 5♦:
Hero showed K♠: K♣: and lost (-$5.32 net)
BTN showed J♣: Q♣: and won $10.27 ($4.95 net)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Your 4bet sizing seems high. Now you invest more then 1/3 of your stack pre-flop. $1,50 seems high enough. Now you can off course shove almost any flop for value. This flop is 1 of the trickier flops, but so many Ax hands he can’t have. AQ would most likely fold and AK would stack off here and is shoving most likely best for thin value and protection, but it’s close for sure. Now you are changing your hand in to a bluff. without any fold equity left.

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SDK1987


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

And you thinking if i bet small 4bet he folded? I don't think so. And post flop i was oop thats why i raised 4bet bigger size. And 4bet pot i always must broke, especially if i have KK or AA.


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Originally posted by ToddBrunson
And you thinking if i bet small 4bet he folded?

I don't think the purpose of a 4 bet here is to have your opponent to fold. It's not a (semi) bluff, it's a value bet.

Villain made a bad call. You did put your cards open on the table with that bet and villain still called. Bad play from villain and then he sucked out.

Please respect a little the ideas of people who give their time to respond to your post.


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xxnub
Joined: 04.12.2007

If he is so light on calling that large 4bet than you are in happy place with that kinda hand.


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RubbyDubby
Joined: 15.02.2018

Originally posted by xxnub
If he is so light on calling that large 4bet than you are in happy place with that kinda hand.

Yeah of course. But nowhere I am read that hero had a read about villains light calling. He did it cuz he was OOP is what I read.


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xxnub
Joined: 04.12.2007

Hero invested 40% of his stack PF so villain does not have much implied odds and fold Equity against Hero
For me this is way to marginal hand for such a big 4Bet. What do you think he is hopping to hit since he does not have nay fold equity against Hero?


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