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Only 25 hands on villain 29 vpip i think it's a decent squeeze spot but would you flat pre ? and then i make a bit of a hash of it postflop any thoughts welcome and thanks in advance.

SB: $0.90 (18 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.12 (102.4 bb)
UTG: $5.19 (103.8 bb)
CO: $13.74 (274.8 bb)
BTN: $5.02 (100.4 bb)

SB posts $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A T
UTG raises to $0.15, fold, BTN calls $0.15, fold, Hero raises to $0.70, UTG calls $0.55, fold

Flop: ($1.57, 2 players) 3 K 8
Hero bets $0.52, UTG calls $0.52

Turn: ($2.61, 2 players) T
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.32, Hero folds


14 replies
Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

I would raise 1/2pot not 1/3 on the flop, when you bet small your opponent can stick around with more hands, I understand betting 1/3 is a nice hybrid type bet that allows you to bluff for cheap but in general it doesn't create much fold equity villain can stick around with a wider range of hands, if we choose a bigger bet-sizing of 2/3 pot we will usually accomplish the same thing as when we bet around 1/2 pot so opting for 1/2 pot I think is best. Checking is also a viable option but when we check Villain has the opportunity to bet an amount we cannot always call and we want the option to see a turn card.

Flop Pot= $1.57 ,Hero bets $0.52 , BE%= Risk/(Risk+Reward)

$0.52/($0.52+$2.09)
$0.52/$2.09 = 25%. Our bet as a pure bluff needs to work at least 24% to be Profitable

This also means Villains MDF is 75% , which is pretty wide.


Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

On the turn If we give villain a range of

JJ-88,AQs-A9s,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,AQo

we have 59% Equity on the turn against his range.

Pot on Turn: $2.61, Villain bets $1.32, Total pot = $3.93

We are being given about 3:1 pot odds. I think we can call this bet unless we have reads villain only plays nut hands.


zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Preflop make a decent squeeze, although I wouldn't squeeze that much vs EP opens without solid reads. Calling pre with BB still to act isn't very good either, but ATs plays well postflop so why not. Bare in mind your top pairs will usually be dominated.
Folding is ok too against tight openers.
I'm prefer checking flop with this exact combo. The other 3 combos of ATs make better cbets because they connect much better with the board (more fold equity, and you'd love to take down the pot OTF wouldn't you?).
Villain should be calling almost it's range vs a cbet imo, so there's no point in increasing the size. Every PP, backdoor draw can call here having position, not to mention Kx.

Turn check/call is decent. You could also continue but I believe you'd need to turn it into a bluff if he raises.
Check/folding when you improve is usually exploitable. I think he should stab quite wide OTT as you are cbetting very wide OTF (and therefore should be checking frequently OTT) given the board texture (and the fact it is a K high board).
Keep in mind you'll need to call down some rivers too (when the flush doesn't get there, blank cards etc). It's annoying playing OTR without position, but this is a spot where I think it is necessary (against good players obviously).


yadijavadi
Joined: 31.01.2018

Edited -- say your piece about poker, but please don't be insulting the other players


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

@yadi,
Regardless of how correct your analysis is, please leave your personal opinions about the players' motives etc out of it.
Rather than being insulting, why not be supportive?

Regards,
VS


yadijavadi
Joined: 31.01.2018

I didn’t insult him. It’s an insult that you’re accusing me of it.

I was brutal but I was just trying to drill something important into his head. I hope he had a chance to read it before you rudely deleted it and accused me of being an arsehole when all I’m doing here is helping.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by yadijavadi
I was brutal but I was just trying to drill something important into his head. I hope he had a chance to read it before you rudely deleted it and accused me of being an arsehole when all I’m doing here is helping.

Brutal isn't insulting?
Be aware that when you post it says a lot more about you than it does about your topic.

I have asked the other mods' opinion of your post.
If any of them think that it really and truly does conform to our forum principles then they could then re-instate it.

Until then, perhaps you could discuss the hands a little -- or a lot -- less brutally.

Thanks,
VS


ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Just call preflop and polarise 3bet range more from BB. You close action and get discounted price for call. As played it's fine to just x-f flop without bd fd and not much fe.

On turn your hand should be bluff catcher and villain does need some creativity to have bluffs here so imo fold is best readless.


Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Hey guys,

This is a hand discussion board. Please keep your responses to the hand in question.

Regards

Laz