Fold KK pre vs 5bet 100bb deep ?

I think you can make exploitative folds if you really feel like tight villain has only AA here. i think you could fold or shove up to you

At NL5 I would never fold KK unless I had a a really large hand sample on this guy showing 5bets of only AA

Call his 3bet if you think stack off is not best versus him. But I would not worry about stack off with KK 100bb deep. If villain has AA then so be it.

4bet could be bit smaller also. If you are deeper than 100bb then seriously think about just calling his 3bet. You should also have always plan before 3betting or 4betting what to do versus reraise. If we are e.g. 200bb deep here it can be fine default line to not even have 4bet range or do it with just AA and possibly balance it with occasional A5s.

Hello Reds.

I'd just stack it off and keep going. If he has aces then gg and life goes on.
But like ghaleon said, you need to have a plan. If you 4bet you have to previously know if you will call it or don't, you should not change your mind based on villains moves, especially if they're unexpected. Instead, you should predict every move and be ready to act.
Cheers man!

Stacking off KK is fine with 100bb. Off course it could be a tell he isn't 5bet jamming here, but he could play hands like QQ and AK the same or he's tight.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I'm happy to go broke with KK pre no matter who the opponent is.

Originally posted by stevegold87
I'm happy to go broke with KK pre no matter who the opponent is.

+1

If nothing else, you pay 100BB to find out what kind o' crap he 5-Bets with
That information may earn you many times your investment.

I would make the jam because I’m a note junky, but I am pretty certain I’d be making a big mistake.

Could someone good at math tell us, roughly how often would this guy need to hold something other than AA for this jam to be profitable?

I think he has AA about 5 out of 6 times so it should clearly be a fold.

With 100bb deep is hardly ever wrong to stack off with KK preflop.
I mix some flat calls vs 3bets, especially when I open from EP. Usually against tight 3bet ranges.

Originally posted by ghaleon
Call his 3bet if you think stack off is not best versus him. But I would not worry about stack off with KK 100bb deep. If villain has AA then so be it.

That would usually be my advise and i'm snap calling a 5bet shove it's just the sizing.Ive seen this type of 5bet sizing in other peoples videos and faced it myself a few times.And from what ive seen it tends to be AA a hell of a lot if not pretty much always.Im still not sure about the fold though you can even see some strange 5bet folds like this sometimes but id say that is very rare.

Thanks everyone.

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Originally posted by stevegold87
I'm happy to go broke with KK pre no matter who the opponent is.

+1

If nothing else, you pay 100BB to find out what kind o' crap he 5-Bets with
That information may earn you many times your investment.

Yes and no i think because in a smaller field that would be a good idea but in larger micro stakes fields where i may not see villain again the info isn't so valuable.So i was just using player pool tendencies and assumed this was a sizing tell from what ive seen of this type of 5bet.

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
Yes and no i think because in a smaller field that would be a good idea but in larger micro stakes fields where i may not see villain again the info isn't so valuable.So i was just using player pool tendencies and assumed this was a sizing tell from what ive seen of this type of 5bet.

Good point -- don't forget I'm the guy that calls too wide ♠_cry:

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
Yes and no i think because in a smaller field that would be a good idea but in larger micro stakes fields where i may not see villain again the info isn't so valuable.So i was just using player pool tendencies and assumed this was a sizing tell from what ive seen of this type of 5bet.

Good point -- don't forget I'm the guy that calls too wide ♠_cry:

I'm the guy that folds KK pre 100bb deep so don't panic.