K8s - SRP MP vs BB

Low card board like this is good for BB's range, he gets to call pre with alot of junk that would connect with this board. I might prefer checking flop as Hero here because of the board texture. BB gets to check-raise on these types of flops I believe because they can have all of the odd ball hands like 96s,64s, or 85s,75s because of the price they were laid pre. When they have more nut hands in their range they can get away with check-raising in these spots with a polarized range of their best made hands and some bluffs like the many 6x they could have possibly all T9 combos etc.

On the turn Hero is getting over 3:1 on a call, so we need to have around 25% equity. Idk anything about villain but the MDF on the turn is 72% of our range, if he is ever bluffing I might call with K8 here and see a river assuming he could be bluffing with all his gutshots, 6x and T9 type hands, turn also brings diamond draws to alot of suited hands he could have that would pickup equity and help with his semi-bluffs.

Originally posted by Casey55
Low card board like this is good for BB's range, he gets to call pre with alot of junk that would connect with this board. I might prefer checking flop as Hero here because of the board texture. BB gets to check-raise on these types of flops I believe because they can have all of the odd ball hands like 96s,64s, or 85s,75s because of the price they were laid pre. When they have more nut hands in their range they can get away with check-raising in these spots with a polarized range of their best made hands and some bluffs like the many 6x they could have possibly all T9 combos etc.

On the turn Hero is getting over 3:1 on a call, so we need to have around 25% equity. Idk anything about villain but the MDF on the turn is 72% of our range, if he is ever bluffing I might call with K8 here and see a river assuming he could be bluffing with all his gutshots, 6x and T9 type hands, turn also brings diamond draws to alot of suited hands he could have that would pickup equity and help with his semi-bluffs.

Interesting, I would think that I need to bet for value and protection here as I have a lot of SD value and my hand is very vulnerable. This is a 2 street max hand I'd say, so I was going to bet flop, bet turn and check behind river. Anyway interesting thoughts that you brought up. I will check hand with a solver, maybe. And then the point is (as you stated) how many bluffs is Villain capable of.

It is interesting that the solver wants the BB to lead and range bet on this board (95% of range). OTF BB's range has 54% equity vs MP's range with 46%.
As played, MP checks behind little more than 50% of their range. Ks8s is also a mix of cbet and check behind, but is never folded vs a check-raise.
And then OTT it is a matter of MDF, I guess, as Casey55 pointed out. The larger the bet, the more MP is folding.

(I am not that good at analyzing solver outputs, yet, still trying to learn. I used the free version of GTO Wizard.)

Yes BB leading that often is interesting, does it tell you what sizing BB leads with? Because he has the nut advantage my guess is 50% pot or larger? I think having a leading range is hard to balance so many people might just opt for check-raising flop

Originally posted by Casey55
Yes BB leading that often is interesting, does it tell you what sizing BB leads with? Because he has the nut advantage my guess is 50% pot or larger? I think having a leading range is hard to balance so many people might just opt for check-raising flop

The most significant sizings vary from 1/4 to 1/2 pot.

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Originally posted by mkBISCUIT
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Originally posted by monteCarlol
It is interesting that the solver wants the BB to lead and range bet on this board (95% of range). OTF BB's range has 54% equity vs MP's range with 46%.
As played, MP checks behind little more than 50% of their range. Ks8s is also a mix of cbet and check behind, but is never folded vs a check-raise.
And then OTT it is a matter of MDF, I guess, as Casey55 pointed out. The larger the bet, the more MP is folding.

(I am not that good at analyzing solver outputs, yet, still trying to learn. I used the free version of GTO Wizard.)

I just took a look at the hand again and I'm confused because when for me OTF BB has 46% equity and MP has the Range Advantage. When BB calls from OOP pre , he will never have the range advantage and if he does its like 51% which isnt really any. If BB had the range advantage I could see how he might bet small but if he doesn't then I think he needs to bet large with a polarized range, what ranges were you giving BB and MP?

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