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kingdollar
Joined: 13.04.2007

Hi Stackoffski,
I checked again the list in poker tracker with all all in hands. Many values are calculated wrong. But I don't know why. Which Pokertracker Version do you use?

So I trust more my excel list and not Pokertracker result.

best regards,
kingdollar


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Hi Kingdollar, I checked my Pokertracker and it is seems it is wrong as well with the EV-calculation :f_o: :f_o: And the EV-graph is also wrong. What is this?


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kingdollar
Joined: 13.04.2007

Hi Stackoffski,
When I would know why I would try to write to PokerTracker Forum. But when you have the same error... it seems that there is a bug with the software. Have other users also the same Problem or is it only with GG Poker Hands?
PS: I play at GG Poker.
Best regards,
kingdollar


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

I couldn't really find anything about it. It is probably only with GGPoker because GGPoker is not officially supported by Pokertracker (GGPoker probably doesn't really allow this), they only unofficially support it. I guess it would be known if ev winnings where calculated wrongly for supported sites. But then again, I would guess it would be known for GGPoker as well, and I can't find anything about it really. I don't know either. (I play at GG as well)


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Concerning your A♥ K♣ hand:
- All-in adj: $2.52
- Equity: 79.55% (pokertracker)
- Effective Stack: $5
- Pot: $10.27
- Rake: $0.61

(Pot * Equity%) - stack - rake = (10.27 * .7955) - $5 - $0.61 = $2.56 (instead of pokertracker's $2.52)

Where could those missing $0.04 be?AM I missing something? You really don't know as well?

Or is it

(Pot - rake) * Equity% - stack = $2.68 ??


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

The actual, pure "EV won" in PT4 also cannot be the real "EV won" as it only calculates what happens after the all-in; it doesn't count when you get it in KK vs AA and got this type of "unlucky", I guess you should've guessed he has AA somehow.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by taavi1337
The actual, pure "EV won" in PT4 also cannot be the real "EV won" as it only calculates what happens after the all-in; it doesn't count when you get it in KK vs AA and got this type of "unlucky", I guess you should've guessed he has AA somehow.

Since PT4 and other trackers cannot tell your true EV unless they can see the other player's cards, this makes sense.
In the English version of PT4, the line for EV is labelled "All-in Adj". This might appear differently in other translations.

from:   https://www.pokertracker.com/forums/viewtopic.php&p=217643#p217648
My C is the short for My Currency

and All-in Adj stat (it can also be shown on a graph) is calculated like this:
1. it's the same as My Winnings when there was not an all-in and a call before river.
2. when there was an all-in and a call before the river, the formula is: (my equity of winning the pot)*(pot size). For example if you go all-in before the flop having AA vs KK (around 80% equity) on NL50 for total of 100bbs, the total pot is $100, your All-in Adj is 0.8*100 = $80. So on average you are winning $30 every time you go all-in with AA against KK preflop.

Basically, if your Winnings graph is above your All-in Adj graph, you are running good, if it's the opposite- you are running bad.

However, it's not really accurate, because it does not take into account situations like:
1. coolers, like set over set
2. you have a flush, barrel flop and turn but he rivers a boat
3. a recreational player calls your preflop 5-bet and binks flop
and many more


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