[Closed] Is poker a game of luck !

Originally posted by Donmecon

Anyone agree with me that poker is all luck.

+1

go play some $1050 SuperTuesday on stars or some $109 rebuys and you'll see that you will get destroyed on every attempt

thats how i learned ♦ played some expensive deepstacked tourney and got decent cards but still lost badly

but seriously i wouldnt recomend you do to do that bacause poker is not luck

poker is up to 100% luck, noone can/will argue with that

i took my bankroll of $29.11 and bought into a game. pick up the first hand 72o. i decided to go all in on the flop despite not having a pair because i wanted to test if i go all in with shitty hands, i would win. and here are the results, and glad to say i doubled my bankroll! seems like what you say is right, i can win if i do this shit all day long! i'm going to try that at nl50 now, then nl 100, and soon i'll show tom dwan what i'm capable of
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$10.00:///////;SB$25.00:///////;BB$40.78:///////;UTG2$25.30:///////;MP1$37.82:///////;MP2$29.53:///////;MP3$9.40:///////;CO (Hero)$29.11:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7:d, 2:s.
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2.75, 3 folds, MP2 calls $2.00.

Flop: ($5.85) 3:s, Q:s, K:h (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $4.50, MP2 raises to $12.50, Hero raises to $26.36, MP2 calls $13.86.

Turn: ($58.57) 7:c (2 players)

River: ($58.57) 2:c (2 players)

Final Pot: $58.57.
Results follow:

MP2 shows a pair of aces(A:d A:s).
Hero shows two pairs, sevens and twos(7:d 2:s).

Is poker a game of luck !

Yes luck and skill. It's a high variance game.. This guy reminds me of a fish who said "lucky" in the chat box. When he played that hand horribly. To which i responded:

"Yes im lucky, lucky that your playing bad ♦"

Yeah i know flaming fish = bad now. But it was pretty funny to say anyway.

I'm lucky that I started playing.

of course it is

you either win or you don't

don't know how can poker be all luck, look some high stakes poker, that doesn't look like game of luck.
in short term maybe it is luck, but in longterm i don't belive that u can be a big winner with just luck and absolute zero skill!

Poker is a game of small edges, short term can be about luck. In long term your skill will decide.

Almost every card game needs a luck. No exceptions. That's the way it is. Need to used to it. Nobody is 100% lucky. They (Lucky retards) will fail someday anyway. No exceptions. So.. just need to go forward and sharpen your skills, not luck.

what do you mean - luck? it's all about probabilities and math

All is just about luck.

And i am unlucky.

Originally posted by supeyrio
i took my bankroll of $29.11 and bought into a game. pick up the first hand 72o. i decided to go all in on the flop despite not having a pair because i wanted to test if i go all in with shitty hands, i would win. and here are the results, and glad to say i doubled my bankroll! seems like what you say is right, i can win if i do this shit all day long! i'm going to try that at nl50 now, then nl 100, and soon i'll show tom dwan what i'm capable of
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$10.00:///////;SB$25.00:///////;BB$40.78:///////;UTG2$25.30:///////;MP1$37.82:///////;MP2$29.53:///////;MP3$9.40:///////;CO (Hero)$29.11:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7:d, 2:s.
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2.75, 3 folds, MP2 calls $2.00.

Flop: ($5.85) 3:s, Q:s, K:h (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $4.50, MP2 raises to $12.50, Hero raises to $26.36, MP2 calls $13.86.

Turn: ($58.57) 7:c (2 players)

River: ($58.57) 2:c (2 players)

Final Pot: $58.57.
Results follow:

MP2 shows a pair of aces(A:d A:s).
Hero shows two pairs, sevens and twos(7:d 2:s).

nice hand mate

If I give you a coin that comes up heads 51% of the time and tails 49% of the time, and you can get someone to give you $1 if it comes up heads and you give them $1 if it comes up tails, you can make money, but......here's a simulation of 10000 flips. Look familar??

Originally posted by jbpatzer
If I give you a coin that comes up heads 51% of the time and tails 49% of the time, and you can get someone to give you $1 if it comes up heads and you give them $1 if it comes up tails, you can make money, but......here's a simulation of 10000 flips. Look familar??

This is running under EV:))

Originally posted by Alan883

Originally posted by jbpatzer
If I give you a coin that comes up heads 51% of the time and tails 49% of the time, and you can get someone to give you $1 if it comes up heads and you give them $1 if it comes up tails, you can make money, but......here's a simulation of 10000 flips. Look familar??

This is running under EV:))

AND without RAKE

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Well, with 10% rake, you'd need heads 56% of the time to have the same profit. Easier than poker though!

I think Poker has elements of luck in it ie. (the cards that are dealt to you and community cards shown.) but the skill is in how well you play those hands dealt to you and how well you force your opponents to make mistakes.

Originally posted by Kidsoldja
I think Poker has elements of luck in it

i've never thought about it... maybe you're right