Originally posted by delete461
You could balance your openfolding ranges a bit by openfolding AA from time to time. Then the fish will have no idea what you had.
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you should also tilt hard from time to time, so that the fish will have no idea whether you're on tilt or not
CAn't remember the last time I slowplayed AA or KK preflop. Postflop I will chk/c IP occasionally v an agro-pilchard, but only IP; OOP big betting! Lost AA v pilchard just now AI PF for 100bb at micro cash, board hit 64486 and he had 96s 
If you are going to slowplay at micro cash, know your enemy, otherwise just get the chips in. Gl.
Originally posted by ihufa
OP let me start out by saying that you seem like an intellegent person. As for the odds against slowing playing i think they're close to 50:50.I will usually raise to more than 9.000 chips if i get the aces but that's really a question of what you're comfortable with.
I hope i was able to help you shed some light on this mystery of aces
all true
but i would much rather prefer fancy betsizing like 8999 chips
Originally posted by delete461
You could balance your openfolding ranges a bit by openfolding AA from time to time. Then the fish will have no idea what you had.
but the regs will quickly adapt ♠_biggrin:
Watch this! 
:f_love:
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t30 - 7 players
MP: t4640 M = 7.93
CO: t25689 M = 43.91
Hero (BTN): t5270 M = 9.01
SB: t18252 M = 31.20
BB: t8554 M = 14.62
UTG: t12012 M = 20.53
UTG+1: t15935 M = 27.24
Pre Flop: (t585) Hero is BTN with A♥ A♣
4 folds, Hero raises to t500, SB calls t375, BB calls t250
Flop: (t1710) 5♠ J♣ 5♣ (3 players)
SB bets t500, BB folds, Hero raises to t1000, SB raises to t1500, Hero raises to t2000, SB raises to t2500, Hero raises to t3000, SB raises to t3500, Hero raises to t4000, SB raises to t4500, Hero raises to t4740 all in, SB calls t240
Turn: (t11190) 6♠ (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: (t11190) 3♠ (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: t11190
Hero shows A♥ A♣ (two pair, Aces and Fives)
SB shows 8♣ J♦ (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
Hero wins t11190
Originally posted by Jehudas
Flop: (t1710) 5♠ J♣ 5♣ (3 players)
SB bets t500, BB folds, Hero raises to t1000, SB raises to t1500, Hero raises to t2000, SB raises to t2500, Hero raises to t3000, SB raises to t3500, Hero raises to t4000, SB raises to t4500, Hero raises to t4740 all in, SB calls t240
What's this? 
Originally posted by delete461
You could balance your openfolding ranges a bit by openfolding AA from time to time. Then the fish will have no idea what you had.
HAHAHAH
Originally posted by Jehudas
SB bets t500, BB folds, Hero raises to t1000, SB raises to t1500, Hero raises to t2000, SB raises to t2500, Hero raises to t3000, SB raises to t3500, Hero raises to t4000, SB raises to t4500, Hero raises to t4740 all in, SB calls t240
what were you doing ? 
well - its only two aces... ♠_cool:
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 8 players
MP2: t1325 8.83 BBs
CO: t4005 26.70 BBs
BTN: t2184 14.56 BBs
SB: t2903 19.35 BBs
BB: t2305 15.37 BBs
UTG: t1906 12.71 BBs
UTG+1: t1130 7.53 BBs
Hero (MP1): t4122 27.48 BBs
Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is MP1 with A♦ A♠
2 folds, Hero raises to t300, 4 folds, BB raises to t600, Hero raises to t1000, BB raises to t2305 all in, Hero calls t1305
Flop: (t4685) 5♠ K♣ K♠ (2 players - 1 is all in)
Turn: (t4685) 9♥ (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: (t4685) 2♣ (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: t4685
BB shows A♣ K♦ (three of a kind, Kings)
Hero shows A♦ A♠ (two pair, Aces and Kings)
BB wins t4685
or two kings...
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60/t120 Blinds + t15 - 9 players
BTN: t8750 M = 27.78
SB: t6535 M = 20.75
BB: t1970 M = 6.25
UTG: t2600 M = 8.25
UTG+1: t1555 M = 4.94
UTG+2: t3875 M = 12.30
MP1: t2705 M = 8.59
MP2: t3395 M = 10.78
Hero (CO): t1450 M = 4.60
Pre Flop: (t315) Hero is CO with K♠ K♥
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t600, 3 folds, Hero raises to t1435 all in, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls t835
Flop: (t3185) 3♠ 2♣ J♥ (2 players - 1 is all in)
Turn: (t3185) T♥ (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: (t3185) A♦ (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: t3185
UTG+1 shows A♠ 7♣ (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows K♠ K♥ (a pair of Kings)
UTG+1 wins t3185
If you openlimp AA KK from UTG my question to you is this: what else will you openlimp to balance this?
Sometimes slowplaying is easy. Say in a 6max game CO raises and you are BU with AA. Calling here is easy because you would also call with 55 KQ or maybe 98 suited. Your range is wide so a slowplay works well here. UTG limps are often very narrow ranges. Some hands that fishes think "are good enough to play but not good enough to raise" like A9s or KJo and slowplay hands. You need to convince others that your hand is weak and then you will get good value for your AA. This is why I think limping UTG with aces is a terrible play. Slowplay is perfectly okay but pick the right spot to do it. Some combination of an aggressive opponent, position, and the perception of having a weak hand will make a good spot to slowplay.
If you openlimp AA KK from UTG my question to you is this: what else will you openlimp to balance this?
I *usually* don't openlimp AA nor KK - BUT i use to openlimp suited connectors and highly speculitve hands from time to time...
IMHO there is a huge difference to both hands:
with AA you are *always* dominating preflop - whereas most highly speculative hands (suited connectors, smaller pocketpairs) often won't give you a dominating hand (except for the smaller pocket pairs - those are a little different story).
So for instance limping AA you always face a big risk that someone else might improve to a straight, set, flush or double pair or get flash/straight draw. But folding an AA on flop is pretty weird (and a lotta folks won't fold at all).
A speculative hand that you can see a cheap flop with might turn into a monster/flash draw/straight draws or stay unimproved - and then it's an easy fold.
Condensed:
Play AA for value and openlimp rather speculative hands in position.
An AA is a pretty isolated hand - you have top pair but cannot profit too much from public cards (one card flush, straight outs are little) - a speculative hand can profit much more from the public cards and turn into a really strong hand. Therefore, with AA you must give the blinds a good reason to fold. Imagine the BB checking it through with 47o and busting your aces with a flopped straigt or double pair?
I been trying to vary between all in or slow playing!
I have noticed!
When you hit the bubble if you go all in with pocket AA or KK your almost guaranteed to not get any action, unless its somebody who is about to get blinded out and they go all in with Q or higher!
So maybe slow playing will get you more chips here!
If your the large stack...no action at all!
If your a small stack....you will usually get a large stack to call!
So is slow playing AA or KK on the bubble maybe a better way to go?
last time i check, on 0.25 limit, i limped my KK from UTG+2, 4 players call, raise, reraise, and last one goes all inn!!!
Now my turn after 3 players reraises, the pot getting bigger than my expectations...regret didnt reraise my KK!