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so i have this same proble, with my accout on VCpoker( pokerstrategy i am on pokerstars\) playing NLHE for a year with a bankrol of 100+-50 i tried all the stylees loose, maniac tag at nl4 so now i developed my style that suits this limit very well(i enter a game with 4 quit with 10 most of the time) but there is a difference in playingNL10 NL4 and NL2, mostly in the level of aggrssion i think.
I read it somewhere dont remember with loose players u play loose with the legitimate hands tight on the bluffs, agaisnt tight player tight on the legitimate ahnds and loose on the bluffs.
So now i just like i am moving up cause i hand about 2 weeks of winning sessins so and on pokersatrs pretty soon i ll move up i blieve/


Originally posted by SiXAT
so i have this same proble, with my accout on VCpoker( pokerstrategy i am on pokerstars\) playing NLHE for a year with a bankrol of 100+-50 i tried all the stylees loose, maniac tag at nl4 so now i developed my style that suits this limit very well(i enter a game with 4 quit with 10 most of the time) but there is a difference in playingNL10 NL4 and NL2, mostly in the level of aggrssion i think.
I read it somewhere dont remember with loose players u play loose with the legitimate hands tight on the bluffs, agaisnt tight player tight on the legitimate ahnds and loose on the bluffs.
So now i just like i am moving up cause i hand about 2 weeks of winning sessins so and on pokersatrs pretty soon i ll move up i blieve/

:f_confused: sorry, I didn´t understand...

with loose players u play loose... what else?


in hand one it was 345 flop with 2 clubs, you had 2 6 which is not the nut and there were 5 limpers, 67 would have you owned from the start, the best way to play this hand is pot control, keep it small and win it small if he did not have the 6 7 and was trying to hit flush ( which he did also ). So this hand you were the fish and he was the fisherman period, it was your opponent who floped the nut straight and had a flush draw, as soon as you were reraised you should have folded.

thats my opinion, hope it helped


thebigheizung85
Joined: 12.08.2006

naah... if i hit the second nuts on the flop i am happy to put my money in

the money went in on the flop so you did not misplay this hand. he had you on the flop, that happens and he additionally would have outdrawn if he just had the backdoor flush on the flop, but those hands you should not waste to much time to think about

there is no real 'click' moment when i realized what i did wrong before... a lot of credit to really think about poker hands should go to coaching videos, i like TwiceT videos especially

i think the two biggest lessons i learned (which reflects in my cbetting for example)

Big Pots and Big Bets for Big Hands

and

Valuebets over Bluffs!!

For a well executed bluff you need so much chips to win so little, so don't overuse it. I still bluff quite often, but the money i make is through value betting. I think i lose money with my bluffs (but i create an image that gets huge payoff). This is also a level i never reached when i played NL2 for example (you don't need it there, but still...): What does my opponent think i have? that is not a very high level, but if you played some dozen hands with someone you should be somewhat aware of the table image you should have


didn't i say that you should have keep the pot small? big pot for big hands, but your hand wasn't big, it was a hand that could get you in alot of trouble like K 9 against AK on 10 j Q flop


A hand from today´s session I think is very interesting.

Hand 8: POT CONTROL X PROTECTION - WHAT SHOULD I DO HERE?

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP2 (Hero)$3.54:///////;MP3$1.94:///////;CO$6.50:///////;BU$2.01:///////;SB$1.98:///////;BB$1.73:///////;MP1$2.63:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K:s, A:c.
MP1 raises to $0.08, Hero raises to $0.30, 5 folds, MP1 calls $0.22.

Flop: ($0.63) 5:s, A:d, 8:h (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30.

Turn: ($1.23) J:d (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.86, MP1 raises to $1.72, Hero raises to $2.58, MP1 calls $0.31.

River: ($5.84) 2:c (2 players)

Final Pot: $5.84.
Results follow:

MP1 shows two pairs, aces and jacks(A:h J:h).
Hero shows a pair of aces(K:s A:c).

MP1 wins with two pairs, aces and jacks(A:h J:h).
Hero wins with a pair of aces(K:s A:c).

I know "big pots are for big hands", but shouldn´t I have bet higher to try to make villain give up?

What about villain´s raise on the turn, was that an easy fold?


i think you got really un lucky in this hand , you played it well. Folding on the Jack was not an option, but calling instead of reraising is more understandable even if he had ace Q and not the jack


Originally posted by MoneyCraving
i think you got really un lucky in this hand , you played it well. Folding on the Jack was not an option, but calling instead of reraising is more understandable even if he had ace Q and not the jack

yeah, i wouldn´t raise, just did it because he would be pot comitted anyway


Hi,

ich hab angefangen nl5 zu spielen mit den 50$ startkapital....war schnell auf 200$..... nl10 ist auch noch gut gelaufen bis ich mit rush poker angefangen habe......
rp hat mich extremst auf tilt gebracht sodass ich dann irgendwann zu nl50rush gesprungen bin um meine br zu saven --> mit dem Ausgang, dass ich die Notbremse bei 50$ ziehen musste (hab einfach meinen PC ausgeschaltet :)

Allerdings hat mir dieser Ausflug einiges über mein Tilt-Verhalten gezeigt und seitdem ich schön brav wieder zu nl5 runter gegangen bin und dort auch bleibe, bis zum nächsten br-step, läuft es wieder ganz gut....

hab gemerkt das tourneys nix für mich sind....versuche bei sngs und mtts waren nicht so prickelnd

cash game ist mein ding und der tilt ist erst mal unter kontrolle......

nebenbei noch: die micros bei FT finde ich härter als z.B. bei PP oder Titan