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[Closed] preflop situation where hero slowplays

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$1/$2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:s, Q:d.
MP3 raises, CO folds, BU calls, SB calls(All-In), Hero calls

An interesting preflop scenario here.

EP is a TAG & kinda LAG. BTN is a fish. 43/20 and honest aggression postflop. SB is a fish, calls all in pre.

With the SB all in, protection goes sort of out the window at this point in the hand. Clearly I have a value raise but I felt there were some good reasons for taking another line.

I felt like if i 3-bet I wind up isolating myself postflop against EP quite often (mostly whenever he raises the flop tbh) and he'll play quite well against my 3-bet range. I also end up squeezing him out on a lot of flop textures because he knows a player is all in and theres a guy to act behind him.

By contrast, I felt like I could trap the fish for extra bets postflop while also getting EP to make mistakes, drawing incorrectly with his Ax range or overplaying worse made hands. In both scenarios this will tend to trap the BTN fish for extra bets.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

I think gaining the extra 2 SB preflop is worth too much to just call.


3 handed he'll c-bet 100% and I can check/raise like 80% of flops. The fish will call like 50% of the time vs the c-bet and won't fold to my raise. so 80% of the time i get 3 SBs in on favorable flop textures... thats 2.4 small bets... so on rough estimates raising preflop and calling to check/raise are very similar in terms of the immediate value that goes in the pot.

Then we can expect MP3 to play poorly against my QQ, drawing incorrectly with most of his overcard range or raising incorrectly with all but the very top of his preflop raising range.

I sort of think theres a few flaws in this logic... but I think with a bit of work there might be something to it.


Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

One thing to take note is why would he c-bet into a dry sidepot if he didn't have anything?

The Presence of the all-in players make it even more likely I want to raise pre-flop to build the side pot up and make it worth fighting for.

If he has nothing on the flop bluffing makes no sense becasue he's risking a bet to win nothing in a 4-way pot and the worst thing that can happen is that he checks the flop having flopping nothing.

You pretty much have to 3-bet here.


Yeah, if we expect him to adjust and only value bet the flop with a good range of hands then i agree.

My read was more that he'll c-bet 100% on the flop and not adjust.