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Unreal [marathon] challenge. 500k hands in 1 month

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sileekhunt
Joined: 09.06.2010
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mad challenge

I hear u about the shorties. Read the SSS articles on here to find out their ranges. I keep reshoving AQo vs them & loosing.
18k hands in a day in mad :f_biggrin:


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Seems so unreal to be motivated whole month 10h a day. What limit you play if not a secret?


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martinemem
Joined: 05.07.2011
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Originally posted by sileekhunt
mad challenge

I hear u about the shorties. Read the SSS articles on here to find out their ranges. I keep reshoving AQo vs them & loosing.
18k hands in a day in mad :f_biggrin:

I started in nl2, so i know a little about them, since then i started with 10$ 9-12 tabling with 1.2$ I do however hate them, maybe its a good idea to refresh them a little

Originally posted by kirbupask
Seems so unreal to be motivated whole month 10h a day. What limit you play if not a secret?

The things is, 10h dont cut it, thats only 15000 hands, and since i dont have the 30. to play in, im aiming for 18k, which is closer to 12h. And after all the sessions, it takes a little time for me to fall asleep, when i do, im destroyed in the head next day

Ill post the graph with limit in the end of month, but i can say its micro, so not sick hourly yet It is though what i am aiming for. I need to make a living by august next year. If i dont manage that, i HAVE to study math to get $$ to live for. Im aiming for get an hourly up in june latest. And i actually only want to cashout, when i can grind nl200

Are you playing cg for living? fr or 6max? what was ur hardest limit? very curious to hear lots of opinions to know where i have to make grind/study ratio different.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009
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Sick grind.

I believe you can do it though


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martinemem
Joined: 05.07.2011
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Originally posted by w34z3l
Sick grind.

I believe you can do it though

Thanks :f_love: back to work, just went for a walk. Now i only need ~8.2k more hands for today. Sooo, goodnight @ 0600


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tommygecko
Joined: 11.08.2012
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can't wait to see the graphs. so sick


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vuciitis
Joined: 19.02.2011
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following your blog and seeing the volume you put in, i get embarrassed about the amount of time im investing in poker... :f_confused:

Keep up the great work, GL!


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mesisification
Joined: 05.08.2011
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Originally posted by vuciitis
following your blog and seeing the volume you put in, i get embarrassed about the amount of time im investing in poker... :f_confused:

Keep up the great work, GL!

This. :f_biggrin:


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009
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Originally posted by tommygecko
can't wait to see the graphs. so sick

That!


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Joined: 05.07.2011
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8th day

1st SESSION
8400 hands
1. quarter 10/10
2. quarter 7/10 - PPL was so bad it took my down aswell. 4bet shoving TT etc, makes me tilt i won too much in the beginning.

3. quarter 9/10 - had a so sick hands with SO MUCH +ev that i lost, i couldnt stop laughing since this 65/43 guys 3bet shoved 280bb with 43o. I called with AJo, flop comes 442 tuuuurn 3 Then i figured it was the day to do the high variance style, 3 and 4betting a lot

4. quarter 8/10 started 22 tabling, to look for maniacs so back and forth on tables :P WEEEEEEEEEEEEEKEEEEEEEEEEEEEND

2nd SESSION
8082 hands
1. quarter 9/10
2. quarter 8/10
3. quarter 10/10
4. quarter 6/10

16482 hands

going for a walk, taking some to drink. I wanted to stop after 6k hands, but i kept winning, so i just stayed for a while

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 41.5 BB (VPIP: 10.23, PFR: 6.82, 3Bet Preflop: 2.23, Hands: 1,424)
MP: 141.6 BB (VPIP: 13.09, PFR: 10.26, 3Bet Preflop: 2.83, Hands: 1,637)
CO: 58.7 BB (VPIP: 85.71, PFR: 6.12, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 50)
Hero (BTN): 146.6 BB
SB: 74 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
BB: 40 BB (VPIP: 8.95, PFR: 6.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 191)
UTG: 108.7 BB (VPIP: 12.76, PFR: 10.09, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 341)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♦ 7♥

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, MP calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 4 players) 6♠ 3♥ T♥
UTG checks, MP checks, CO bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 11.6 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 7.6 BB

Turn: (44.7 BB, 2 players) K♠
CO checks, Hero bets 129.9 BB, CO calls 42.1 BB and is all-in

River: (128.9 BB, 2 players) Q♥

Spoiler

CO shows 5♣ 3♠ (One Pair, Threes) (Pre 36%, Flop 19%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows 6♦ 7♥ (One Pair, Sixes) (Pre 64%, Flop 81%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins 123.1 BB

This song was btw running in the playlist while i played the hand


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009
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Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiick keep it up!


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vuciitis
Joined: 19.02.2011
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Originally posted by martinemem

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 41.5 BB (VPIP: 10.23, PFR: 6.82, 3Bet Preflop: 2.23, Hands: 1,424)
MP: 141.6 BB (VPIP: 13.09, PFR: 10.26, 3Bet Preflop: 2.83, Hands: 1,637)
CO: 58.7 BB (VPIP: 85.71, PFR: 6.12, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 50)
Hero (BTN): 146.6 BB
SB: 74 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
BB: 40 BB (VPIP: 8.95, PFR: 6.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 191)
UTG: 108.7 BB (VPIP: 12.76, PFR: 10.09, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 341)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6♦ 7♥

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, MP calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 4 players) 6♠ 3♥ T♥
UTG checks, MP checks, CO bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 11.6 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 7.6 BB

Turn: (44.7 BB, 2 players) K♠
CO checks, Hero bets 129.9 BB, CO calls 42.1 BB and is all-in

River: (128.9 BB, 2 players) Q♥

Spoiler

CO shows 5♣ 3♠ (One Pair, Threes) (Pre 36%, Flop 19%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows 6♦ 7♥ (One Pair, Sixes) (Pre 64%, Flop 81%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins 123.1 BB

may i ask why are u squeezing so ridiculously small and just making the pot bigger with your weak hand?


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Joined: 05.07.2011
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Originally posted by vuciitis
may i ask why are u squeezing so ridiculously small and just making the pot bigger with your weak hand?

Maybe i shouldnt have showed the hand.. I know this play loses money in the long run. And its not like that the regulary style. But i see a lot of very very bad players in weekends. And if u imitate them, and use same sizings for their wierd 3bets sizes and sqeezes, most fishes think that because i before donated 1.6bb to him everytime i was against him, he thinks 11.6 bb is a donation aswell. Theres a big chance he dont hit the K, and since his leadout is so rediculous small, he has bottom pair most of the time. Plus u get initiative. I am however not doing this every single time. And it is one of my crazy ideas that only seems cool when they work, and only happens if im up due to other crazy ppl doing same shit.

I also did this when i played sngs. If i ex got 4-5 1st places in row in 10m sng, and i wanted to stop because i was money scared, i sometimes shoved 52o to a nit if it was my last open game, and because if he calls and i win, im gonna get payed off 100% of the time after that with monsters, and therefore exploit the bad rep you get out of it.

But if im gonna grind a lot, and aim for a acceptable hourly, i need to stop this. It is the same as trolling in a video game as lol, because you wont get anything out of it in the long run, and it is just a waste of time.

Today and tomorrow im gonna aim after ~40k hands. Since i woke up so late, im gonna make an all nighter and not sleep. So my day rythm get pushed back to normal. Im just gonna play as many hands as possible. So if i can get to 45k thats fine. Then i can recalc how my new avg hands pr day is, so i maybe can maintain a 24h day.


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vuciitis
Joined: 19.02.2011
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the thing about micros is that your oponent usually doesnt think like you do, so by bringing some leveling into your game against certain oponents you will just complicate things as it is not guaranteed they will catch on to your moves or even think so deep as you do. i would suggest you to stick to some ABC moves and even more when you are putting in some crazy volume, not to waste your brain power on inventing unnecessary new things. :)

and if u really will go for that crazy 40k hand marathon, set some stop loss limit before you start. just incase as your mind can make tricks on you laiter if u face some big losses ;)


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Originally posted by vuciitis
the thing about micros is that your oponent usually doesnt think like you do, so by bringing some leveling into your game against certain oponents you will just complicate things as it is not guaranteed they will catch on to your moves or even think so deep as you do. i would suggest you to stick to some ABC moves and even more when you are putting in some crazy volume, not to waste your brain power on inventing unnecessary new things. :)

and if u really will go for that crazy 40k hand marathon, set some stop loss limit before you start. just incase as your mind can make tricks on you laiter if u face some big losses ;)

Nice advise, i've heard lots of times, and yet had the best session of the month with in mind that ppl dont think, just play bad.

If i set stoplosses i will never reach my goal for the month. And the purpose of the challenge isnt really to make the most profit. Thats just a nice bonus if it happens. Its about learning structure, learning to keep A-game for longer periods. And ofc learn how variance can and will fuck you up. And ofc make B-game profitable aswell.
My problems with tilt dont occur so much when i lose. That just forces me to think better, dont make the same mistake, and to concentrate harder.
When im winning on the other hand i tend to get spewy. Which is also why i have never got a 2nd, 3rd ... up til 15th place in a mtt. 1st place or no finaltable.
I've do have gotten around 4-5 1st places in mtt, but i have never studied mtt in the same deep manner that i have with sng and cashgame. On partypoker i knew if i had 2645 chips, and bb who was short stack had 1950 chips i knew exactly what to push in sb. When to use the 35% rule. When to fold the best hand, because its -ev$ but +evchips. Thats also my big problem to why i didnt break good enough through in pokerstars sngs. Because the change of start chips and 9m instead of 10m never got practised enough. Played around 400 sngs and started cashgame on stars, after partypoker screw us all up. Had a roi on party on 11% on 3$, 6$ and 11$ all compared together. -roi on pokerstars. Because i thought in exact chips instead of bigblinds as i should have. Then i would have been able to change in 30-40 games. Where as 400 hasnt been enough for me.

I am however doing very well in the 45m, and 180m. But its been a longtime since i played theese. i think roi of around 67% over 250 games.
But i have never been a volume guy in theese either. Only thing i have grinded a lot is sngs. And fullring FIXED limit micro

On bet365 i have a roi on 4884% in mtt 1 game, 1st place, withdraw everything and changed site

But thanks for reminding me micro stakes isnt a thinking lvl. I guess i overrate everyone


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9th and 10th day

1st SESSION
2722 hands
1. quarter 10/10
2. quarter 10/10
3. quarter 10/10
4. quarter 10/10

Flawless. 0 mistakes that i know of (always room for improvements)
Had to go to bathroom, and i was like: Why think about how long i can stretch it, im just gonna go Also mentioned it would be nice to have a perfect session. My first i've had in some time. But also a very short session.

2nd SESSION
2273 hands
1. quarter 10/10
2. quarter 10/10
3. quarter 10/10
4. quarter 10/10

Super tiny session, but:

The chances i make a flawless session is super small, its like flopping a full house..
The chances i extend the perfection to another session is like flopping a full house, getting it all in on the flop, the other guy has flopped 4 of a kind, and u turn a higher 4 of a kind.

3rd SESSION
3728 hands
1. quarter 9/10
2. quarter 8/10
3. quarter 10/10
4. quarter 10/10

4th SESSION
5374 hands
1. quarter 8/10 Couldnt handle the heater that good, but only a few mistakes and a little spew, not too much
2. quarter 10/10
3. quarter 9/10
4. quarter 10/10

14097 hands


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sileekhunt
Joined: 09.06.2010
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can you round up the total hands for the month with each post pls.

great challenge keep going !!!!


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Originally posted by sileekhunt
can you round up the total hands for the month with each post pls.

great challenge keep going !!!!

sure and thanks!


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Joined: 05.07.2011
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So far played 141078 hands.

If i extract the fact that the way i have counted the hands is by the importing numbers in bottom of pokertracker4, it also imports the viewed hands before i get to bb.

So if i play 24 tables, i will probably during session in avg have been on 30 tables. This means i would have in avg seen 6 hands in avg pr table pr session. Since its a little more than 4.5 is because when u enter a table, it is mostly because a reg leaves, he leaves @ bb, hence i have to wait 8 hands, but since fishes once in a while leave a table where u sit on waiting list, i feel 6 is a good round number.

so 6*30*2.5* 9 days = 4050 hands i havent played, but only watched.

SO, im way behind in schedule actually. But that is because i havent played my hands for this day, and for tomorrow yet.

Posting graph the 15. But only in bb. Ull get the real numbers the 30.


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