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like I do.

Why do you run it twice on a low limit games?:f_confused:


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Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135

like I do.

Why do you run it twice on a low limit games?:f_confused:

Because all the regs do it?


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Because all the regs do it?

So what. If all the regs jump out of the 10th floor would you do it? No point to do it. Unless you are with tiny bankroll. But it's your buissness after all


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Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135

Because all the regs do it?

So what. If all the regs jump out of the 10th floor would you do it? No point to do it. Unless you are with tiny bankroll. But it's your buissness after all

No, I would not. I would jump out of the 11th floor. I'm special that way.


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Dont be defensive. I am advising you for your own good. When you play it once your opponents will lose more in preflop all in situations and in all in situations at all. Witch means they will tilt more and potentially get emotional and angry. You can capitalize on this.


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An interesting thing about agreeing to run it twice or three times.
It changes the adversarial dynamic to a more cooperative one.
Who knows what kind of breaks you'll get if you toss some poor schmuck a lifeline by agreeing to run it twice


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Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
Dont be defensive. I am advising you for your own good. When you play it once your opponents will lose more in preflop all in situations and in all in situations at all. Witch means they will tilt more and potentially get emotional and angry. You can capitalize on this.

Okay, I understand but I've been running it once for 28 years now, and I wanna try something new for a season.

Like, I want the option to run the rest of the deck instead of three times, I hope GG Poker will add that soon.


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Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Like, I want the option to run the rest of the deck instead of three times, I hope GG Poker will add that soon.

Play stud — sometimes it feels exactly like that


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The purpose of DT is to reduce the variance. There is no variance on the micro stakes. So it's pointless.


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Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
The purpose of DT is to reduce the variance. There is no variance on the micro stakes. So it's pointless.

Where do you play and what stake?


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Why?


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Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
Why?

Just curious is all.


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Why you are curious?


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How did I save my stack here?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 137.08 BB
SB: 126.6 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 111.68 BB
MP: 156.56 BB
CO: 136.68 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has ? ?

Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.48 BB, fold, BB calls 1.48 BB

Flop: (7.84 BB, 3 players) 7♣ 9♣ A♣
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (7.84 BB, 3 players) A♥
BB checks, Hero bets 2.6 BB, BTN calls 2.6 BB, BB raises to 10.24 BB, Hero calls 7.64 BB, fold

River: (30.92 BB, 2 players) Q♥
BB checks, Hero bets 24 BB, BB calls 24 BB

Spoiler

Hero shows 7♠ 7♦ (Full House, Sevens full of Aces)
(Pre 18%, Flop 7%, Turn 2%)
BB shows 9♥ 9♠ (Full House, Nines full of Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 93%, Turn 98%)
BB wins 75.36 BB

And a hand against fish.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 156.76 BB
SB: 100.4 BB
BB: 172.04 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
MP: 82.16 BB
CO: 163 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has ? ?

Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, CO raises to 3.96 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.48 BB

Flop: (9.32 BB, 2 players) 4♥ J♣ Q♦
Hero checks, CO bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

Turn: (49.32 BB, 2 players) J♠
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (49.32 BB, 2 players) A♣
Hero bets 76.04 BB and is all-in, CO calls 76.04 BB

Spoiler

Hero shows Q♣ A♦ (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 73%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
CO shows 4♦ A♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 27%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 193.4 BB
How did I know? Sometimes you have to guess but the sizings that he uses tells me that he probably is a fish.


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No variance in the micros ? i knew it had a mind of it's own, i always run it as many times as requested as well and usually ask for run it twice on GG. It just lowers the short term variance. Ive also started cashing out high equity spots on GG if offered also because there is no charge.


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Originally posted by RedsYNWA
No variance in the micros ? i knew it had a mind of it's own, i always run it as many times as requested as well and usually ask for run it twice on GG. It just lowers the short term variance. Ive also started cashing out high equity spots on GG if offered also because there is no charge.

That's why I asked NB135 where he plays because variance is like death and taxes, you cannot escape them if you play any type of poker at any stakes.


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Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135

Because all the regs do it?

So what. If all the regs jump out of the 10th floor would you do it? No point to do it. Unless you are with tiny bankroll. But it's your buissness after all

No, I would not. I would jump out of the 11th floor. I'm special that way.

And how do you jump out of a floor whether it be 10th or 11th ? sorry i had to ask. :f_tongue:


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It was metaphorically said. Because players are so weak that you can win even on a "downswing streak". Even when the AA dont hold.

You seem both of you with pretty nitty mindset. I dont undersand how do you expect to win when you play safe in a game of chance. Taka some chances, risk, gamble from time to time. It's poker, not chess.

Poker is a game of toughness

because variance is like death

Because your winrate is low. The lower your winrate is the more variance you will expirience and vice versa

Put it in other words. Skill=high winrate > variance


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PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 153.84 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 107.68 BB
Hero (CO): 127.48 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♥ J♠

UTG raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.4 BB

Flop: (7.6 BB, 3 players) 8♠ T♦ 5♦
BB checks, UTG bets 2.08 BB, Hero calls 2.08 BB, BB raises to 13 BB, UTG raises to 28 BB, fold, BB raises to 97.6 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 69.6 BB and is all-in

Turn: (204.88 BB, 2 players) 7♠

River: (204.88 BB, 2 players) 9♥

Players agreed to run it twice.

Turn #2: (204.88 BB, 2 players) T♠

River #2: (204.88 BB, 2 players) A♦

BB shows 8♦ 7♦ (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens)

Board #1 Main Pot [204.88 BB]: (Pre 22%, Flop 32%, Turn 21%) (Flush, Ace High)

Board #2 Main Pot [204.88 BB]: (Pre 22%, Flop 32%, Turn 0%)

UTG shows T♣ T♥ (Three of a Kind, Tens)

Board #1 Main Pot [204.88 BB]: (Pre 78%, Flop 68%, Turn 79%) (Four of a Kind, Tens)

Board #2 Main Pot [204.88 BB]: (Pre 78%, Flop 68%, Turn 100%)

UTG wins 98.44 BB
UTG wins 98.44 BB

vs two very very tight regs here,

Imagine if I was in this pot running it twice, I would've tied TT and 87s but 87s loses to TT, and my stack comes back to me minus the rake.

or

I decided to gamble and run it once and scoop the whole thing.

It adds a whole new element to the slop machine that is poker.


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Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
It was metaphorically said. Because players are so weak that you can win even on a "downswing streak". Even when the AA dont hold.

You seem both of you with pretty nitty mindset. I dont undersand how do you expect to win when you play safe in a game of chance. Taka some chances, risk, gamble from time to time. It's poker, not chess.

because variance is like death

Because your winrate is low. The lower your winrate is the higher variance's impact is and vice versa

Put it in other words. Skill=high winrate > variance

I think you misinterpret what I said about death and taxes because it has nothing to do with your win rate. Now let me ask you a question. Do you pay taxes and are you dying?


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