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QQ vs fit or fold player, river decision.

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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

I have villain marked as a rec, but might be weak reg, very abc, nitty stats. I bet 100% of my range vs this player as they fold almost every time. There isn't much in V range that calls this flop besides pp and maybe the random suited high card float and 76s. OTR the only J in V range would be those suited Jx that might have floated. Call, fold or raise? I think raising here is the worst option. This is not the type of V that bets busted draws or 8x or TT when there is a over card on board.

Villain left over range on the river

http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 2d8s5c2sJh
Equity Win Tie
CO 88.31% 88.31% 0.00% { QhQc }
BB 11.69% 11.69% 0.00% { TT-22, AJs-ATs, A8s, A3s-A2s, KJs, QJs, Q2s, JTs, 98s, 87s, 76s }

Just noticed Q2s is in range, ignore this as this V won't have this.

GG Poker - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BB: $2.10 (105 bb)
Hero (CO): $2.40 (120 bb)
BTN: $6.28 (314 bb)
SB: $0.43 (21.5 bb)

SB posts $0.01, BB posts $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Q♥: Q♣:
Hero raises to $0.06, 2 folds, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13, 2 players) 2♦: 5♣: 8♠:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.29, 2 players) 2♠:
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.29, 2 players) J♥:
BB bets $0.22, Hero?


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LookAwayNow
Joined: 30.06.2011

You miss value on the turn here. Bet $0,20 on the turn for value from 8x, worse pocket pairs, maybe 76s.

It's a single raised pot, villain should be quite confident about his 8x.

As played, we just call river I guess. He will have some missed draws that start to bluff here. He can have J8s which we can get value from by raising, but it's unlikely and we will have to fold vs a 3-bet.

Just play bet/bet/bet next time and you won't be in this spot.


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^ I agree. Bet bet bet is the line here. As played cant see myself folding on this board. Raise will be overplay. I will call this OTR


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yangmartins
Joined: 28.11.2009

PF: villain range is wide, calling CO from BB. Not as wide as calling an OR from BTN, but wide, nonetheless.

Flop: since you said you noticed some nitty tendencies on him, we can discard 2 pairs in this board. He can have some:
Pockets that turned into sets (mainly 22 and 55, since 88 can 3bet you PF).
AX with X hitting the board.
Air, basically 2 overcards to the board.

You said you bet this flop 100% of the time. Why, and what hands do you target with that bet being that size?
Generally, QQ (and range) are dominating so much in this board (2 to 5 outs for villains, often) that I don't see why you'd bet 2/3 or 3/4. I'd go 1/3.

Turn: A brick, 22 is even less likely in villain range. Other X2 are residual, he would call you with what he called flop. I don't see much need to check this. Keep going, targeting his lower call range (mostly overs or 8X you dominate).

River: action card. Here, I could see some 1/2 pot bet/call. Kj, qj, jt are in call range with overcards. I wouldn't think I'm in too bad a shape here.

Nice board texture to build a 30/50 BBs pot (between both) and take it. If it gets out of control re-evaluate.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Not sure why you checking the turn with the over pair. Seems like a easy value Cbet. As played I would call the river as well.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by jiffybag
I have villain marked as a rec, but might be weak reg, very abc, nitty stats. I bet 100% of my range vs this player as they fold almost every time.

What criteria are you using to distinguish the two?
To me, "rec" implies "plays for enjoyment", and therefore implies nothing about the skill level.
Also, "reg" plays frequently and is often found at the tables, but again, implies nothing — or at least very little — about their skill level.

Rather, if you have characteristics that you use to distinguish the two categories, tag them with that characteristic.
When I played only hold'em, I tagged players as one of these 5 types: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/bss/five-player-types/
In fact, it is so hard to distinguish between "maniac" and "LAG" I almost never used maniac.


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

To me, "rec" implies "plays for enjoyment", and therefore implies nothing about the skill level.
Also, "reg" plays frequently and is often found at the tables, but again, implies nothing — or at least very little — about their skill level.

Rec - not skilled, there for fun eg, fish or whale

Reg - Nits n Tags


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