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AJo with 3bet pot: should I bet on the flop? / raise on the river?

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Joined: 24.05.2024

Hey, guys. What do you think if you play this hand?
Q. Should I bet on the flop?
(I thought check would keep weaker opponent's range, and he could bet on the turn.)
Q. Should I raise on the river?
(I felt opponent's river donk-bet was a block bet, but I was scared if I raised and faced re-raise.)

Thanks,
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 101 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 20)
UTG: 106.4 BB (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 69)
Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 114 BB (VPIP: 19.33, PFR: 7.33, 3Bet Preflop: 1.72, Hands: 153)
SB: 152.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ J♣

fold, Hero raises to 2.6 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6.4 BB

Flop: (18.4 BB, 2 players) A♣ 4♠ 7♥
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (18.4 BB, 2 players) 3♣
BB checks, Hero bets 8 BB, BB calls 8 BB

River: (34.4 BB, 2 players) 2♦
BB bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Spoiler

BB shows J♥ J♠ (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 70%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows A♦ J♣ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 30%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
Hero wins 42.2 BB


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

checking the flop has pros and cons.
"Never give the weaker hand a free draw"[1] but on the other hand, you disguise your hand.

With the runout as shown, I'm happy just to call the river

[1] from the collected sayings of Vorpal Swordsman


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Well played I think. At NL5 that flop check could easily decieve them thinking you dont have Ax. The problem vs more thinking opponents is that, your entire air range should bluff somewhere, and it would make zero sense to check air there, so if you check, you always have something, which he might notice.


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

So you could range bet the flop with your entire range like 3 or 4 bb, but yea, the "checkback exploit" is more +EV maybe but is also more risky as he might just put you on AK if he is good and just snapfold turn.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I think you can bet the flop, but than you need to fold against a check/raise. Indeed if you check you hand looks weaker, but it's also hard to get to much value with betting multiple streets with top pair.

On the river it's hard to get value of less than top pair. Villains lead is weird and I don't think a middle strengh hand that he most likely has will call a healthy raise.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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VisionBoard
Joined: 24.05.2024

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
checking the flop has pros and cons.
"Never give the weaker hand a free draw"[1] but on the other hand, you disguise your hand.

With the runout as shown, I'm happy just to call the river

Hi VorpalF2F,

I see. That's cleared my head! I remembered "Never give the weaker hand a free draw".
Thanks :f_thumbsup:


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Joined: 24.05.2024

Originally posted by taavi1337
Well played I think. At NL5 that flop check could easily decieve them thinking you dont have Ax. The problem vs more thinking opponents is that, your entire air range should bluff somewhere, and it would make zero sense to check air there, so if you check, you always have something, which he might notice.

Hi taavi1337,

Yeah, you really know the 5NL players on PokerStars :f_cool:
I guess it was a little bit not standard play, it was a more exploitable move for PokerStars's 5NL normal table players.

Originally posted by taavi1337
So you could range bet the flop with your entire range like 3 or 4 bb, but yea, the "checkback exploit" is more +EV maybe but is also more risky as he might just put you on AK if he is good and just snapfold turn.

I see. Thank you for telling me your point of view :f_thumbsup:


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Joined: 24.05.2024

Originally posted by SDK1987
I think you can bet the flop, but than you need to fold against a check/raise. Indeed if you check you hand looks weaker, but it's also hard to get to much value with betting multiple streets with top pair.

On the river it's hard to get value of less than top pair. Villains lead is weird and I don't think a middle strengh hand that he most likely has will call a healthy raise.7

Hi SDK1987 :f_grin:,

I see. That makes sense, if I check on the flop, it's hard getting value... :f_mad:
On the river bet was weird. If it seems hard to raise, 15% donk bet (5bb/34.4bb) could be a GOOD donk bet?


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VisionBoard
Joined: 24.05.2024

Thanks again, everyone. I learned a lot from your replies. :f_drink:


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Glad to hear it will help improving your game.


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