[Closed] NL200 AK from BU 4-bet

I play it the same way on nl100. It's great for you if you have players who spazz out 5bet shoving s/cs here

Part of the reason for 4betting it small here is to balance your 4bet bluffs. If you start flatting AK or other strong hands, and it gets shown down, you're that much more likely to get 5bet bluffed since attentive regs will put more bluffs in your 4betting range and less strong hands.

On the other hand, maybe it's fine to flat here some of the time - especially if blinds are 3betting light. When they aren't, I'd rather force them to make a decision pre and give myself 5 cards to make my pair

Originally posted by Tim64

Part of the reason for 4betting it small here is to balance your 4bet bluffs.

Yep, eggzactly. I sometimes 4-bet bluff suited connectors / middle pockets with similar 4-bet. Though, I know nitty Bierbaer will have his comments on it ♦

...and I am looking forward to that already now ♠_cool:

btw I rather 4-bet bluff weaker hands (like JTs) from BU against tight regs blinds who does have 4-bet range 0-2% as they are even capable of folding AJs-AQs / 88-TTs when facing such 4-bet. When the guy has 8+ 4-bet range, he is capable of showing suited cons and middle pairs, so I don´t like bluff 4bet that much. I even once called his all-in 5bet when I had JTs - huuuge tilt call ♦ he showed KK and probably added me to the buddy list ♠_biggrin: ♠_biggrin:

huuuge tilt call he showed KK and probably added me to the buddy list shark biggrin shark biggrin

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what's your nick? If you promise to tiltcall JTs vs my KK, I'll add you to my buddy list as well

Originally posted by Tim64
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what's your nick? If you promise to tiltcall JTs vs my KK, I'll add you to my buddy list as well

Please don´t, there are many fish already taking care of reducing my roll ♦ Already 3 two-outers on river for full stack. I know what they have, play accordingly, they just hit it 3k hands and break even result due to sick lucky fish Hope to collect them long-run hehe

Originally posted by jekyll001

Originally posted by Tim64

Part of the reason for 4betting it small here is to balance your 4bet bluffs.

Yep, eggzactly. I sometimes 4-bet bluff suited connectors / middle pockets with similar 4-bet. Though, I know nitty Bierbaer will have his comments on it ♦

Yes he does ♦.

If you do the math for 4betbluffing you'll see, that an opponent usually needs to 3bet 8% at the very least to make a 4bet profitable, oftentimes you even need them to 3bet 10% to 11% depending on how often they stack off.
The reason for this is, that you effectively have 0% potequity, so your foldequity has to make up for that.

In general I think you should call AK IP when you think you have a ton of foldequity and 4bet A6o instead - otherwise you're just wasting AK and one more thing to consider is, that if the opponent 3bets 8% and you can justify 4betting for your foldequity it's still a 0EV spot!
By calling you can easily turn a profit since you're not only IP and can hit, but you can also take it away from him postflop.

Just consider this: With the amount of money you need to 4bet you could also call the 3bet and his cbet on any flop (assuming he bets ~1/2 pot).
Obv it's a lot harder for your opponent to play postflop than if he's facing a simple shove-or-fold decision preflop where he can determine the best play easily by the stats.

Of course if you see any chance he's spazzing out and 5betbluffs or if he stacks off with AQ for value go ahead and 4bet ;).

Originally posted by Bierbaer
Yes he does ♦.

You never disappoint my expectations, man

Originally posted by Bierbaer
Of course if you see any chance he's spazzing out and 5betbluffs or if he stacks off with AQ for value go ahead and 4bet ;).

+1, regs do that against me as they already have plenty notes on me that I play very light in button vs blind wars against suitable opponents ♠_cool: I think if he has 5% 4-bet from blinds, he typically (against me) shoves here so that´s why I 4-bet AK as well.

Otherwise, your reasoning for call is very good. He is not very strong from 3-bet blinds usually, if we hit A or K and he C-bets, we can use the time bank and do visually uncomfortable call to induce him barreling and representing ace