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nemiren

Joined: 28.09.2009

Posts: 690

12.09.2010, 19:39 0

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$0.05/$0.1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K:h, 9:s.
MP3 calls, Hero raises, BU calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP3 3-Bets, Hero calls, BU calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (15 SB) K:s, 3:s, A:s (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, BU folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (9 BB) 3:h (3 players)
SB checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, SB folds.

River: (11 BB) 4:c (2 players)
MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB.

preflop: i know this raise was probably too loose.
flop: i guess i have 5 outs so i have to call
Turn: should i fold?
river: i called because she was playing terrible before.

nemiren

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nemiren

Joined: 28.09.2009

Posts: 690

12.09.2010, 19:42 0

Now i see i dont have 5 outs on flop, i have to discount my K because mp3 might have pocket kings.

nemiren

_Anonymous_

13.09.2010, 14:41 0

Rookie question: why aren't you counting the outs for a flush draw too? I thought you would count the remainder spades, the remaining Kings. Or is it because you think he might have a Full House?

taavi1337

Joined: 29.05.2009

Posts: 5,118

13.09.2010, 22:25 0

You should fold this preflop as a standard move, it is a bit too loose to isolate. Especially at microstakes where you can hardly ever expect the blinds to fold.

Flop is a call, you get 1:16 and have 5 outs for making two pairs or trips. The 9 for a flushdraw is quite weak in this multiway pot, you can only count on it when other people fold, like happened on the turn.

The river sucks because you split against all Kx and beat all flushdraws and lower pocket pairs. So you can't really fold, his limp/3bet preflop could also be a tilty bluff.I would call and make a note.

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firsttsunami

Joined: 23.01.2006

Posts: 30,011

15.09.2010, 10:01 0

Originally posted by taavi1337
You should fold this preflop as a standard move, it is a bit too loose to isolate. Especially at microstakes where you can hardly ever expect the blinds to fold.

Flop is a call, you get 1:16 and have 5 outs for making two pairs or trips. The 9 for a flushdraw is quite weak in this multiway pot, you can only count on it when other people fold, like happened on the turn.

The river sucks because you split against all Kx and beat all flushdraws and lower pocket pairs. So you can't really fold, his limp/3bet preflop could also be a tilty bluff.I would call and make a note.

agree. without the flushdraw, you should immidiately fold the flop as you don't have any backup and your draw gets much worse when somebody has a hand like A♦4♠ or a fish has a little made-flush that you can't catch up anymore but with your flush you at least have some outs against these hands. this is also the case against AK KK and AA.

limp reraise could be a monster but could also be a hand like JTs QJs QTs or some good drawing hand. with second pair A kicker you should never make a tough fold when you can't even define his range at all.

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