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CPallo Topic starter
CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012
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Decided to own this day mostly for poker and for muscle exercise.

Mourning sessions were pretty decent, got only +1bin on +500 hands, but it's ok as my game was rather solid. I was proud about 2 hands there:

1. Villain has stats that indicated he 3-bets light but fold to 4b often. In this case a cold 4bet from my position would just scream strength, so decided to call anyway. On the turn I ch/raised to represent some random spazz-out. The hand played itself after all

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $5.80 (116 bb)
BB: $12.70 (254 bb)
UTG: $7.21 (144.2 bb)
MP: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $5.39 (107.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, BTN raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.38, BB folds, CO calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.25) 7 3 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, CO folds

Turn: ($2.45) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.17, Hero raises to $4.80 and is all-in, BTN calls $2.83 and is all-in

River: ($10.45) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$10.45 pot ($0.43 rake)
Final Board: 7 3 8 2 J
BTN showed T T and lost (-$5 net)
Hero showed A A and won $10.02 ($5.02 net)

2. In this hand I flopped well and fish decides to donk weak. His range consists of draws and small pairs that ain't folding, but decided to build up a pot in case I hit. Turn he donks again, no value in raising. River is nice card and when he donks so small I knew his range is rather weak, so easy value-raise. Didn't want to raise over dollar as it would most likely drive him away.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $11.71 (234.2 bb)
SB: $5.23 (104.6 bb)
BB: $4.16 (83.2 bb)
Hero (UTG): $5.64 (112.8 bb)
MP: $6.37 (127.4 bb)
CO: $4.74 (94.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A J
Hero raises to $0.15, 4 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 6 2 9 (2 players)
BB bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.40, BB calls $0.25

Turn: ($1.12) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

River: ($1.42) A (2 players)
BB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.95, BB calls $0.70

Results:

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$3.32 pot ($0.14 rake)
Final Board: 6 2 9 7 A
BB mucked 7 8 and lost (-$1.65 net)
Hero showed A J and won $3.18 ($1.53 net)

3. One bluff-catcher. Villain was passive fish and he would have donked overpairs most of the time by turn, so river was ez catch given the odds.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $5 (100 bb)
SB: $8.43 (168.6 bb)
BB: $7.22 (144.4 bb)
UTG: $8.27 (165.4 bb)
MP: $5.77 (115.4 bb)
CO: $2.30 (46 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) 2 4 2 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.97) T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.97) 4 (2 players)
CO bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45

Results:

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$1.87 pot ($0.08 rake)
Final Board: 2 4 2 T 4
Hero showed K A and won $1.79 ($0.89 net)
CO showed K J and lost (-$0.90 net)

Now some exercise, a hot shower and second session of the day. Game on! :f_cool: :f_cool:


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Joined: 12.04.2012
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Second session was like a waveform, when fishes started to hit their 1-outers Quite solid session otherwise, but couldn't just believe that they had exactly what they were representing there.

One silly hand, I guess that guy had wished he was 100bb deep...

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $5.86 (117.2 bb)
SB: $5.82 (116.4 bb)
BB: $0.43 (8.6 bb)
UTG: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $6.08 (121.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 4 8 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.28

Turn: ($0.88) Q (2 players)
River: ($0.88) 3 (2 players)

Results:

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$0.88 pot ($0.04 rake)
Final Board: 4 8 4 Q 3
BB showed 4 4 and won $0.84 ($0.41 net)
Hero showed 8 7 and won $0.00 (-$0.43 net)

_mad:

Luckily OMAHA session was a little better, though I played it on PLO2 to test few things. First of all, these guys are awesome, I can adjust my play to reflect my hand strength, but they don't care. And they can't care, as it's hard to play back when there's always some mega-whales in position to regs, even on Zoomaha

Nice hand:

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $1.85 (92.5 bb)
SB: $1.08 (54 bb)
BB: $1.54 (77 bb)
UTG: $2.22 (111 bb)
MP: $3.78 (189 bb)
CO: $2.17 (108.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K 7 K 7
UTG raises to $0.07, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, UTG raises to $0.51, Hero calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) 7 6 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.01, Hero raises to $1.34 and is all-in, UTG calls $0.33

Turn: ($3.73) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($3.73) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$3.73 pot ($0.13 rake)
Final Board: 7 6 2 4 J
Hero showed K 7 K 7 and won $3.60 ($1.75 net)
UTG showed J K 9 Q and lost (-$1.85 net)


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Joined: 12.04.2012
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Perhaps the final session of the day is behind. Overall +2bin, nice graphs and bb/100 sth like 38. Not bad for a one day's work!

One hand was interesting where villain just played very tight but overly aggressive. He had cbet stats 7/7, raise cbet 4/4. Good spot to turn AK into a bluff.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $5.50 (110 bb)
SB: $1.19 (23.8 bb)
BB: $7.14 (142.8 bb)
UTG: $7.74 (154.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $5.57 (111.4 bb)
CO: $4.41 (88.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.37) Q 3 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BTN raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1, BTN folds

Results:

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$1.37 pot ($0.06 rake)
Final Board: Q 3 5
BTN mucked and lost (-$0.65 net)
Hero mucked K A and won $1.31 ($0.66 net)

Plan was to raise/fold as I think he's not spazzing out there without a proper hand. Seems like this guy know that most of the players on NL5 zoom play fit/fold and never exploit villain. Vi får se if there's going to be some dynamics between us later..

And the best way to over-play TP:
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $9.37 (187.4 bb)
Hero (SB): $5.31 (106.2 bb)
BB: $2.50 (50 bb)
UTG: $3.52 (70.4 bb)
MP: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $1.98 (39.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 4
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.13, BB folds

Flop: ($0.50) 2 8 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, MP folds

Turn: ($1.20) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.45, Hero raises to $2.05, CO calls $1.03 and is all-in

River: ($4.16) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$4.16 pot ($0.17 rake)
Final Board: 2 8 4 K K
Hero showed 4 4 and won $3.99 ($2.01 net)
CO showed K J and lost (-$1.98 net)

Slowplaying :coolface:


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Joined: 12.04.2012
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Hi guys,

I got myself HM2 for 5 days ago, and I decided to put up a graph here for results with it so far. I have only NLHE here, but does it matter ?

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So far so good.. Overall BB/100 a bit over 7.26, With EV it would be a bit better. But can't complain, I'm playing my best tennis for a while and games are ratter smooth.


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Joined: 12.04.2012
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Did you guys know how important pre-flop ranges are all-in-all for the overall game?

One would think that you can call every crap they call in TV shows, others think that they are always having the same calling range. But it shouldn't be that way. Especially flatting pre is a problem and you rarely hit a thing nor accomplish something with flatting.

When to flat?

When and what should you flat pre-flop? You shouldn't have some stone-cold flat range actually, but you should differ it by your opponent. Here's few factors that should help you to determine flatting/folding/3-betting pre in position:

:diamond: Villain's post-flop tendencies

Is he weak and plays one and done? I'd take some semi-strong BW's here against looser and weaker guys, also some speculative hands that can take the pot down with floats. If villain barrels a lot, I'd flat more of those speculative hands and play aggressive post-flop with some draws (in case his not maniac that spazzes out against raises).

:diamond: Your skill edge to villain

If you have other skill edges than the ones mentioned before, you could call pre-flop in position, even with hands like A♣4 :club: . That requires you to know your opponent better, though.

:diamond: Villain folds to 3-bet a lot

This applies to some villains that are likely to fold to 3-bet (like over 60% at least). Then you might want to flat hands like JJ/QQ/TT and never 3-bet them. Of course, again villain's post-flop tendencies are something that helps us to determine whether to flat or not. If villain is tight pre but spazzes out post-flop, I'd call these hands but 3-bet pre with blocker hands or hands that might not flop that well but still have potential, like AJ.

:diamond: No overly aggressive 3-bettors behind

I'm avoiding to flat speculative hands like 89s or so, if there's some squeezers behind me. Same applies for hands like KJo, though I usually 3-bet them against weak openers. If there's some very loose 3-bettor behind you, you could sometimes adjust to this by flatting some stronger hands, but you need to have some sort of dynamics before that.

The reasonings above were not the only ones, but perhaps the most important in determining flat-ranges. You could also somehow determine these flat ranges when you are in position and you both are equally strong (or weak). I myself am using sth. like 35-50 % of villain's assumed Open raising range. For instance, if he is opening 20 % of his hands (in this case, about 21,27 %)

22+, A4s+, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo

I can flat bu/co with hands:

TT-22,AQs+,KJs+,QJs,J9s+,T9s,98s,AdJd,AhJh,AQo,AdKh,AdKs,AdKc,AhKd,AsKd,AcKd,AdJh,AdJs,AdJc,AhJd,AsJd,AcJd

I get approximately 50,44 % equity against his range. I think it's even more than I would need, so I could add hands like 56s and 78s to increase my flatting range and have more value to my hits post-flop.

You could 3-bet some of those hands on my flat-range, depending on villain. In this example I have add some AJ combos into flatting range and others for 3-bet bluff. AA/KK/QQ are in my standard 3-bet range, JJ usually. All these ranges depend on villain's tendencies, but these kind of ranges I'm usually using to adjust my play against std. regs on my level. In Micros, balancing isn't that important, so you could do the same thing with whole group if you want to.

All in all, flatting can't be determined thoroughly mathematically. Your skills and villains skills determine the course of play, but you should always have some sort of a basic game plan for flatting pre-flop and adjust your play afterwards according to your villains. Whenever you are making your own flat-ranges pre-flop you should have somewhat close or even equity, but you can be a slightly dog when in position. You have so much more weapons there and you can decide the course of play from there.

Here's my thoughts for today, hopefully some will comment or tell me how wrong I am or that I missed something I guess I will make an otter article about flatting oop later, mostly to help my own play.

Thanks.


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Joined: 12.04.2012
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Mourning session done, going to continue soon. I ran suprsisingly hot, like hitting every third time the set. Unfortunately these guys seem to give up on zoom after 2 streets, even with top-pairs or stuff

Some interesting hands:

1. Villain was some fish, not spesific notes. On turn I bet so small to keep him in and to have good stack to jam on some river. This river sucked, but had to stick to the plan. Luckily he wanted to stay in the game, no matter what

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $6.02 (120.4 bb)
SB: $7.33 (146.6 bb)
BB: $3.02 (60.4 bb)
UTG: $12.01 (240.2 bb)
MP: $3.27 (65.4 bb)
CO: $7.01 (140.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) Q 9 J (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.55, SB folds, BB calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.55) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, BB calls $0.35

River: ($2.25) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.97 and is all-in, BB calls $1.97 and is all-in

Results:

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$6.19 pot ($0.26 rake)
Final Board: Q 9 J J 9
Hero showed J 9 and won $5.93 ($2.91 net)
BB showed T A and lost (-$3.02 net)

_biggrin:

2. Couldn't give this up on the flop, his range was tp's, some random air.. SO ez call and easy money, after all.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $5.14 (102.8 bb)
SB: $4.75 (95 bb)
BB: $1.89 (37.8 bb)
UTG: $4.99 (99.8 bb)
MP: $5.83 (116.6 bb)
CO: $5.64 (112.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) 5 7 T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB folds, BB raises to $1.74, Hero calls $1.49

Turn: ($3.93) 8 (2 players)
River: ($3.93) 9 (2 players)

Results:

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$3.93 pot ($0.16 rake)
Final Board: 5 7 T 8 9
Hero showed J 9 and won $3.77 ($1.88 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$0.15 net)
BB showed T 8 and lost (-$1.89 net)

3. This one was a tough one. Ofc, this spesific villain would have gone there broke against my bets, too, but decided to let him barrel off weaker Ax. Luckily these fish rarely call pre with hands like AT...

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $5.14 (102.8 bb)
SB: $4.75 (95 bb)
BB: $1.89 (37.8 bb)
UTG: $4.99 (99.8 bb)
MP: $5.83 (116.6 bb)
CO: $5.64 (112.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) 5 7 T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB folds, BB raises to $1.74, Hero calls $1.49

Turn: ($3.93) 8 (2 players)
River: ($3.93) 9 (2 players)

Results:

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$3.93 pot ($0.16 rake)
Final Board: 5 7 T 8 9
Hero showed J 9 and won $3.77 ($1.88 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$0.15 net)
BB showed T 8 and lost (-$1.89 net)

Yes! :f_cool:


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I think I'll try to play one more session today and after dat I quit. I could try to compose some music, though, vi får se om de händer


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Added u via the tool.

I have been playing for a while and am not getting anywhere, ilk show u put thingsso I hope to learn from u.

Stu


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Originally posted by Stu24023
Added u via the tool.

I have been playing for a while and am not getting anywhere, ilk show u put thingsso I hope to learn from u.

Stu

Sure, bring it on :f_cool:


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Had horrible sessions start today, down like 4 bin's and it was good continuation for yesterday evening's doom-switch After dat I tightened up my 3-bet ranges against maniacs and involved some flat-calling hands. Sometimes they outdrew my, no matter what I did, though :/

This hand was great - was against a nit, so knew that it was KK+ only. Didn't want to 4-bet pre, though, as he would most likely fold his hand. Post-flop, well.. Flop was somewhat superb, if he had AK or KK he's going to stack-off anyway

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $1.77 (35.4 bb)
SB: $7.38 (147.6 bb)
BB: $8.09 (161.8 bb)
UTG: $6.03 (120.6 bb)
MP: $6.27 (125.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $8.96 (179.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, BB raises to $0.65, Hero calls $0.50, BTN folds

Flop: ($1.47) 7 A K (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.47) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero raises to $7.31, BB calls $4.44 and is all-in

River: ($16.35) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$16.35 pot ($0.68 rake)
Final Board: 7 A K 8 6
BB showed K K and lost (-$8.09 net)
Hero showed A A and won $15.67 ($7.58 net)

Such a fish.. He snap-called my turn raise :facepalm:


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And there it turns... +2 bin today atm Had some tricky spots there on my last session today, luckily I made it!

1. Hit my set, villain cbet there and I, ofc, raised as I would do with draws and against aggressive players with strong top-pair. Now this guy Insta-shoves here, so I was vomitting a lot and though I'd fold this, as his range SHOULD be quite polarized to nut-sets here, as well as some flush-draws, maybe. Against unk. I think it's most of the time set.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $10.80 (216 bb)
SB: $4.63 (92.6 bb)
BB: $11.81 (236.2 bb)
UTG: $15.85 (317 bb)
MP: $8.72 (174.4 bb)
CO: $5.02 (100.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 2 2
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, CO folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.37) Q 2 7 (2 players)
MP bets $0.23, Hero raises to $0.65, MP raises to $8.57 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.92

Turn: ($17.51) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($17.51) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$17.51 pot ($0.73 rake)
Final Board: Q 2 7 9 A
Hero showed 2 2 and won $16.78 ($8.06 net)
MP showed Q A and lost (-$8.72 net)

I won He had his don't show cards on all-in situations on, so I was swetting a lot on turn when the spade binked out. Luckily I was very reliefed when I saw his hand _biggrin:

2. Villain stole a lot and I had an ok hand that plays somewhat in 3-bet pots, if he happens to call my raise. Standard cbet, 1/2, and he raises. I have tp+fd+overcard --> Easy jam.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $10.93 (218.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $6.26 (125.2 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $2.62 (52.4 bb)
MP: $4.41 (88.2 bb)
CO: $2.31 (46.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 A
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, BB folds, BTN calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) 9 5 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5.76 and is all-in, BTN folds

Results:

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$4.05 pot ($0.17 rake)
Final Board: 9 5 7
BTN mucked and lost (-$2 net)
Hero mucked 9 A and won $3.88 ($1.88 net)

3. A single-raised pot vs nit. I thought his range here is very flush-heavy, coz I think he doesn't raise sets on such a board. Decided to call that flop to get it in on turn anyways against some random combos of A :diamond:x, and to make him continue some of his bluffs. Ofc, his range is very polarized... Maybe turn saved me this time

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $3.07 (61.4 bb)
SB: $2.45 (49 bb)
BB: $5.32 (106.4 bb)
Hero (UTG): $5.27 (105.4 bb)
MP: $7.65 (153 bb)
CO: $9.07 (181.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T K
Hero raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, CO folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.52) 6 7 Q (3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, MP raises to $0.95, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.65

Turn: ($2.42) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.53, Hero folds

Results:

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$2.42 pot ($0.10 rake)
Final Board: 6 7 Q 8
Hero mucked T K and lost (-$1.10 net)
MP mucked and won $2.32 ($1.22 net)


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And one more:

4. Villain was somewhat loose and fishy guy. He haven't fold to flop cbets ip that often and with tp I'd bet even if he folds Turn is very bad card, coz his range is mostly Ax and maybe some TT, some Kx, so by betting I'd make him to fold worse hands and let him to continue better. Check/call was quite good here, as he could bluff once with worse, not twice. River was perfect card, reduces his Kx combos a lot. And he doesn't have a set as he would have raised flop or bet bigger on turn --> Donk to get max value from his Ax, he is not thinking about whether I busted a draw or not, but he is thinking that he has top-pair --> nuts...

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $8.19 (163.8 bb)
SB: $2.82 (56.4 bb)
BB: $5.05 (101 bb)
UTG: $5.41 (108.2 bb)
MP: $16.90 (338 bb)
Hero (CO): $7.81 (156.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.37) 2 K 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, BTN calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

River: ($1.57) K (2 players)
Hero bets $1.16, BTN calls $1.16

Results:

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$3.89 pot ($0.16 rake)
Final Board: 2 K 9 A K
BTN mucked A 7 and lost (-$1.91 net)
Hero showed J K and won $3.73 ($1.82 net)

_love:

E: 5. Villain was mega-aggro spazz-nutty-monkeyhead, that had 3-bet over 30 % and bb/100 -520 When he 3-bets I made only a small 4-bet to induce him. Didn't work pre-flop.

Flop: standard bet against this guy, don't need to be so balanced. That size also invites him to bluff from time to time. Against a jam I had to think few seconds, but easy call after-all and..

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $5 (100 bb)
SB: $5.34 (106.8 bb)
BB: $15.51 (310.2 bb)
UTG: $4.81 (96.2 bb)
MP: $3.47 (69.4 bb)
CO: $5.13 (102.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB folds, BB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $0.90, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.82) 8 K 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $5.05, Hero calls $3.00 and is all-in

Turn: ($10.02) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($10.02) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$10.02 pot ($0.42 rake)
Final Board: 8 K 9 J K
Hero showed K A and won $9.60 ($4.60 net)
BB showed 2 K and lost (-$5.00 net)

:f_cool:

By the way, I have noticed that people actually attack quite a lot on 3-bet pots against 1/2 pot. Ofc, it seems that their call 3-bet range is quite tight and mostly pp heavy, so no wonder they try to get it in on non-broadway board.. But why can't they do the same when I have e.g AA that I got to 3-bet ?


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012
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Okay, giraffe for today. Looked quite bad at one moment, but climbed up anyway ;)

Got one song somewhat done yesterday, got to add some effects there to make it perfect, but I'm pretty excited with it Hopefully I'll get it out ASAP.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010
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Just to say hi! :)

I read the first post and the last page (lazy for reading more :P). I noticed you play NL and Omaha. Not sure if this is the best choice? Wouldn't it be better to concentrate on just one game and one format? I'm not an expert, didn't even try Omaha, but just asking.

Will follow you! Keep the good work! :)


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012
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Originally posted by Alleen86
Just to say hi! :)

I read the first post and the last page (lazy for reading more :P). I noticed you play NL and Omaha. Not sure if this is the best choice? Wouldn't it be better to concentrate on just one game and one format? I'm not an expert, didn't even try Omaha, but just asking.

Will follow you! Keep the good work! :)

My main concentration is atm on NLHE, PLO is a side game that should be a bit of a fun for me. Overall, I'm concentrating on developing my hold'em skills and stop leaking with omaha. Omaha is a nice game and it seems to be suiting me as I can exploit villains quite well and I know the odds. It's better for me to play cash games PLO/NLHE than to play e.g NLHE/MTT's, as I'm smoking with MTT's luck factors

I also have a plan for this double-gaming. As long as I can play both profitably, I can keep the PLO with me. As soon as I turn out from BE+ player to losing player, I'll take concentration on texas hold'em only. As simple as that _biggrin:

You didn't miss a thing there not reading the posts in between, the most important things were in first and last (two). Nice to see you following, too !


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Joined: 12.04.2012
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Bad games today overall. Just not 100 % focused and bad moves all in all. Of course, bad run in addition to that, so it was somewhat bad.

Something scary. Did you know what a shaved bear looks like?

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Be afraid...


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Joined: 12.04.2012
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Just mentioned that had a bad day in poker... Well, here's graphs to prove it!

Hold'em:

And PLO:

Both well under EV... Actually it's reliefing to see that all the results were not due to bad play, but also bad run, that affected my play a bit, maybe.

One hand that went better than expected:

Thought he has set and set only, maybe a re-draw. But he hated money after all and went in dead, which is rare in PLO

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $3.20 (160 bb)
SB: $1.02 (51 bb)
BB: $4.62 (231 bb)
UTG: $8 (400 bb)
MP: $1.82 (91 bb)
CO: $2.03 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q 3 T
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.04, SB folds, BB calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.09) 2 9 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.06, BB calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.21) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.18, BB raises to $0.46, Hero raises to $1.58, BB raises to $4.26, Hero calls $1.52 and is all-in

River: ($6.41) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$6.41 pot ($0.22 rake)
Final Board: 2 9 6 Q 9
Hero showed Q Q 3 T and won $6.19 ($2.99 net)
BB showed Q 5 9 A and lost (-$3.20 net)

:f_cool:


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Joined: 12.04.2012
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You know, when one runs so bad in NLHE what would be the best solution?

PLO! Ofc, because it's almost variance free...

Anyway, had many big hands and something like 7 bin today won. Going to put top 2 hands here only:

1. Villain was rather aggressive all the time, but never raised a donk. Sample was too small, though. Now when he did it I put him on some sort of combodraw like GSSD+FD and maybe one K/A there. Decided to just call as this guy will continue his betting on turn, no matter what and by raising turn we can get our money in as favourite (on flop we would have been underdogs)

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $8.05 (161 bb)
Hero (SB): $5.23 (104.6 bb)
BB: $5.82 (116.4 bb)
UTG: $6.98 (139.6 bb)
MP: $17.43 (348.6 bb)
CO: $21.81 (436.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 8 A K
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.17, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, BB folds

Flop: ($0.39) A 9 K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, MP raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.89) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.60, Hero raises to $4.31, MP calls $2.71

River: ($10.51) 8 (2 players)

Results:

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$10.51 pot ($0.44 rake)
Final Board: A 9 K 5 8
Hero showed 4 8 A K and won $10.07 ($4.84 net)
MP showed T J 8 Q and lost (-$5.23 net)

2. Villain is quite loose and donks flop with value-sizing, which indicates me that he might have top2p or set. When he calls my raise but donks pot on blank turn it's A L W A Y S set, most likely the best one possible as these guys usually just ch/ca with mid/bottom set Had odds to call and river was good card. AI and villain saw his money going away..

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $2.33 (46.6 bb)
SB: $26.73 (534.6 bb)
BB: $4.73 (94.6 bb)
Hero (UTG): $4.91 (98.2 bb)
MP: $8.33 (166.6 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K A 8 J
Hero raises to $0.17, 4 folds, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.36) T Q 7 (2 players)
BB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.65, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.66) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $1.59, Hero calls $1.59

River: ($4.84) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50 and is all-in, BB calls $2.32 and is all-in

Results:

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$9.48 pot ($0.39 rake)
Final Board: T Q 7 3 2
BB showed K A Q Q and lost (-$4.73 net)
Hero showed K A 8 J and won $9.09 ($4.36 net)

Today many people are leaving their schools and becoming something. It's time to celebrate them, so I won't be writing here today or tomorrow. Game on :f_cool:


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Joined: 12.04.2012
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Short session today, coz it's not good idea to play when you have a hangover

Standard spot that happens often with fisz:

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $2.34 (117 bb)
SB: $2.74 (137 bb)
Hero (BB): $2.21 (110.5 bb)
UTG: $3.93 (196.5 bb)
MP: $1.88 (94 bb)
CO: $2.57 (128.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J Q K 3
UTG folds, MP calls $0.02, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.06, MP calls $0.04, SB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.18) Q 6 J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.14, MP calls $0.14, SB folds

Turn: ($0.46) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.39, MP calls $0.39

River: ($1.24) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.20, Hero folds

Results:

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$1.24 pot ($0.04 rake)
Final Board: Q 6 J 5 3
Hero mucked J Q K 3 and lost (-$0.59 net)
MP mucked and won $1.20 ($0.61 net)

and another, in this case the board was ok to cbet as it hits somewhat my perceived range. After he called he was mostly on draws, so no need to bet turn with this weak hand. On river draws busted and these guys have absolutely zero bluff range and quite tight range for sd's with tp's, so decided to bluff bet. Worked as usual :)

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $2.06 (103 bb)
SB: $2.23 (111.5 bb)
BB: $1.29 (64.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $1.65 (82.5 bb)
MP: $3.36 (168 bb)
CO: $4.78 (239 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8 7 5 6
Hero raises to $0.07, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.07, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.17) A 9 K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, BTN calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.37) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.37) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.06, BTN folds

Results:

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$0.37 pot ($0.01 rake)
Final Board: A 9 K 5 3
BTN mucked and lost (-$0.17 net)
Hero mucked 8 7 5 6 and won $0.36 ($0.19 net)

Thank you.


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Joined: 09.07.2010
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Learning PLO improves your HE postflop skills. I would suggest that if you ever find yourself be or losing PLO player you don't quit it. You learn it.


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