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xenomorphic Topic starter
xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010
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was taking a bit of a mental break from poker over the last couple days, just chilled out and played some CoD instead

when i play in future it will be fore 1 hour sessions. if i plan to play longer i will have a half hour break after each hour. this way i get to cool off if i run hot, or cool off if i run like shit. it also will give me a chance to go over hands that i mark and post them in the forum. what i will do is start posting links to the hands here for some extra feedback (if you want )

im reading an article a day and watching 2 vids so my mind is staying active, and i decided to play a session tonight. i finally ran okay for the second time in a row. by okay i mean up half a stack :rolleyes: it's better than being down half.

here are some hands for now. these two gave me the most trouble.

hand 1

hand 2


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xenomorphic Topic starter
xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010
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well i decided to play an hour's session this evening. have read a couple articles and watched a couple videos today so my thinking felt fresh.

spent the first 15 minutes being completely run over - none of my cbets paid off, none of my hands held up bla bla bla. then i got dealt KK on 2 tables and got it in preflop on both. one vs AK the other vs AA. since i set myself a stop loss of 2BI i closed the tables down and checked my cashier. 20 minutes of playing on 3 tables, down 3.5BI. result!

despite all this i think i played okay - i was adjusting to the tables i was at etc etc.

[ ] run good


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xenomorphic Topic starter
xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010
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hey i found a leak!


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RasTweet
Joined: 26.12.2009
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xenomorphic Topic starter
xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010
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i guess thesee hands need no words to describe.

FINALLY. I WILL WIN A BIG POT!
Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $8.69 (86.9 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.27 (102.7 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $14.88 (148.8 bb)
CO: $29.35 (293.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.50, BB folds, MP calls $1.20, BTN calls $1.20

Flop: ($4.60) 9 A T (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.40, BTN calls $2.40, Hero calls $2.40

Turn: ($11.80) T (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

River: ($11.80) 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $6.37 and is all-in, MP calls $6.37, BTN folds

Results:

Spoiler

$24.54 pot ($1.22 rake)
Final Board: 9 A T T 3
BTN mucked and lost (-$3.90 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$10.27 net)
MP showed T T and won $23.32 ($13.05 net) :coolface:

Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BB): $10.30 (103 bb)
MP: $6 (60 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10.25 (102.5 bb)
SB: $13.03 (130.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T K
MP posts BB OOP, CO posts BB OOP, MP checks, CO checks, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.35) 2 T 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25

Turn: ($1.10) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.55, CO calls $0.55, Hero calls $0.55

River: ($2.75) K (3 players)
Hero bets $2.05, MP raises to $5.10 and is all-in, CO folds, Hero calls $3.05

Results:

Spoiler

$12.95 pot ($0.64 rake)
Final Board: 2 T 2 2 K
Hero showed T K and lost (-$6 net)
MP showed 3 2 and won $12.31 ($6.31 net) :coolface:
CO mucked and lost (-$0.90 net)

and again

Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG: $11.15 (111.5 bb)
MP: $5.36 (53.6 bb)
CO: $7.46 (74.6 bb)
BTN: $23.03 (230.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.64 (106.4 bb)
BB: $9.32 (93.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
UTG raises to $0.40, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB folds, UTG raises to $2.90, Hero raises to $10.64 and is all-in, UTG calls $7.74

Flop: ($21.38) 7 A 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($21.38) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($21.38) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$21.38 pot ($1.06 rake)
Final Board: 7 A 5 T A
UTG showed A A and won $20.32 ($9.68 net) :coolface:
Hero showed K K and lost (-$10.64 net)

all in one session ^^
after running like complete crap in general and losing motivation to play, this is really testing.

oh and the 10bb 3bet in the last hand was a misclick.


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keoghh
Joined: 01.07.2011
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Hand 1: Raise flop imo, dont like playing on this fairly drawy board multiway, wats the plan if turn is a 8,J,K,Q?

Also think leading out on flop is ok aswell.

Hand 2 is ugly as fcuk.

Hand 3 is just a cooler buddy

Hope you run good soon bud


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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009
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setups and coolers , get over them mr psy!


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xenomorphic Topic starter
xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010
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Originally posted by thazar
setups and coolers , get over them mr psy!

:f_frown:


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RasTweet
Joined: 26.12.2009
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Originally posted by thazar
setups and coolers , get over them mr psy!

If he sais so, you kinda have to listen :P :facepalm:


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fruktpuff
Joined: 24.09.2010
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AIPF with KK is never a mistake(except like 0.5% of the time, but you know when it happens, and you can always suck out!)

And also:

[ ] Sample


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Joined: 31.12.2010
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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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so you also losing tons of money with KK?

i think i've found the reason - nah, i DEFINITELY have found the reason! check

it may be a different seat for SH games though :f_eek:


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xenomorphic Topic starter
xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010
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Originally posted by Tomaloc
so you also losing tons of money with KK?

i think i've found the reason - nah, i DEFINITELY have found the reason! check

it may be a different seat for SH games though :f_eek:

open fold KK in CO for sure... thanks man. i never thought of this! :f_o:


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xenomorphic Topic starter
xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010
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i love this hand

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
Prima
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($10.34) 103bb
UTG+1 ($10) 100bb
CO ($18.54) 185bb
Hero (BTN) ($22.48) 225bb
SB ($7.11) 71bb
BB ($10) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN 9♦ 9♣
2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, 2 folds, CO calls $0.60

Flop: 7♥ 9♥ J♣ ($1.55, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

Turn: 3♦ ($4.55, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $3, CO calls $3

River: J♠ ($10.55, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero goes all-in $17.18, CO goes all-in $13.24

Final Pot: $37.03
Hero shows
9♦ 9♣
CO shows
K♥ J♦

Hero wins $39.31 (net +$16.83)

CO lost $18.34


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xenomorphic Topic starter
xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010
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TIME FOR AN UPDATE

This month has been interesting. moving over to unibet was a great decision and it has allowed me to experience something i have never had before; a 16BI downswing. since i still consider myself a noob when it comes to poker, i find it hard to distinguish between bad play and bad run and so i use the term 'downswing' to refer to what is probably a combination of the two. the problem is i see so many people saying they are on a downswing blablabla but to be honest, at nl2 or even nl10, a lot of the time we simply don't know enough about the game to say for sure that we are just hitting variance. for that reason, i use the time to study as much as i can about poker.

i have been reading articles and watching lots of videos and i feel like i am learning more. the only reason why i havent moved down is because when i first started at nl10 i quickly made 10BI and so in a way i was only 'down' 6BI. but losing €160 was a massive slap in the face for someone used to losing the odd $5 pot here and there. with that said, i am also grateful for whatever winnings i make too

losing that often really started to affect my thinking and i was on some constant tilt. it was strange because often after studying something or reading an article i felt llike my thoughts were fresh - and they were. but then i lose a standard pot and go on crazy tilt. i feel like my game sucks, i feel like i have wasted a large amount of my free time working on my game, and the worst of all is that i feel like there is absolutely no way i can grow as a player and move up. well, it's all bullshit really and it is all in my head. it comes from just being results oriented and that is just something a noob like me cannot help. i will not "try not to be results oriented" - i will just play my game, get more experience and eventually it will come naturally through getting used to the swingy nature of poker.

at the end of the day, i still enjoy playing and learning new stuff regardless of the results. for that reason i'll post graphs in here less often, and post more hands :)

i guess the following quote applies to poker too - at least for me. so it will hopefully stop me from becoming complaisant and allow me to continue learning as much and as often as i can:

“True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.”


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xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010
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here are some interesting hands.

Hand1
villain is pretty unknown but seemed very spewy. my plan was to call him down since he was being very aggro.

Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

BB: $10.76 (107.6 bb)
MP: $15.27 (152.7 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10.50 (105 bb)
SB: $12.39 (123.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
MP calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.65) 2 3 8 (3 players)
MP checks, CO bets $1.65, Hero calls $1.65, MP calls $1.65

Turn: ($6.60) J (3 players)
MP checks, CO bets $7.85 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.85, MP folds

River: ($22.30) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $22.30 pot ($1.11 rake)
Final Board: 2 3 8 J 4
MP mucked and lost (-$2.15 net)
CO showed 7 7 and lost (-$10 net)
Hero showed J J and won $21.19 ($11.19 net)

Hand2
villain was playing 62/41/9.5/2.3 over 200 hands. he was spewing about so i decided to flat with K9s since it has top pair potential and it's somewhat coordinated. looking back it is extremely questionable, but for 3bb i thought i had great implied odds vs this guy.

Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $1.75 (17.5 bb)
BTN: $12.41 (124.1 bb)
Hero (SB): $32.49 (324.9 bb)
BB: $10.04 (100.4 bb)
UTG: $0.74 (7.4 bb)
MP: $8.53 (85.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 K
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.90) 9 5 K (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45, BB folds

Turn: ($1.80) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.80, Hero raises to $5, BTN raises to $11.66 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.66

River: ($25.12) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $25.12 pot ($1.25 rake)
Final Board: 9 5 K J 6
BTN showed A K and lost (-$12.41 net)
Hero showed 9 K and won $23.87 ($11.46 net)

Hand3
finally, this hand is nice. we had a little image going on since there was a bit of HU play for a while and 3 handed play. my image was pretty aggressive and i was barreling lots. so no reason to slowplay here given that they are probably getting frustrated with me.

Prima, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $14.61 (146.1 bb)
BTN: $8.87 (88.7 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.80 (108 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, BB calls $0.35, BTN calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.35) 3 J Q (3 players)
Hero bets $1, BB folds, BTN calls $1

Turn: ($3.35) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

River: ($7.35) A (2 players)
Hero bets $5.50, BTN calls $5.42

Results: $18.19 pot ($0.90 rake)
Final Board: 3 J Q 3 A
BTN showed K A and lost (-$8.87 net)
Hero showed A A and won $17.29 ($8.42 net)

guess there wasn't a more perfect river card for me. had he played his draw aggressively i really wouldn't have known what to do. i probably would have folded :f_eek:


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RasTweet
Joined: 26.12.2009
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Hand 1: I like!

Hand 2: :facepalm: I no like K9s :facepalm:

Hand 3: YEY but I quess it's always b/f :(


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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I would have 3bet K9s or folded, it stops the blinds getting in cheap. :) K9s is prob ahead of villain's range and hero has pos and skill edge if it's close, but I don't want the blinds getting in cheap...are any of the blinds agro or squeeze happy?
My opinion isn't really valid as I'm a learner driver. :rolleyes:


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xenomorphic Topic starter
xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010
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Originally posted by gadget51
I would have 3bet K9s or folded, it stops the blinds getting in cheap. :) K9s is prob ahead of villain's range and hero has pos and skill edge if it's close, but I don't want the blinds getting in cheap...are any of the blinds agro or squeeze happy?
My opinion isn't really valid as I'm a learner driver. :rolleyes:

your opinion is definitely valid!

it was one of those situation where it was the whole table against BTN. he was the player that everyone wanted a piece of. i wanted to see a flop with K9s not for value but for implied odds, so i didn't 3bet him. if i 3bet he would have 4bet or some crap. so i didn't see myself as miles ahead anyway so i dont mind the blinds - but then this may well have been a terrible call preflop and i definitely did just get lucky flopping that hand


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