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Originally posted by lollujo
Thanks for the tip, I'll do it that way from now on.

Like the title says, I really have no idea what I'm doing with any of this poker stuff...

your doing well, keep it up

but one thing, dont play SnG on partypoker
they have very high rake...25% on micros which is ridiculous
so i would pick another site if i was you

good luck!


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_Anonymous_

Originally posted by MrMardyBum

That's what people are here for. Some to learn and some to pass on knowledge. Stick around and post some hands in the evaluation threads and revise the strategies, I'm sure you'll learn a little, if not a lot :)

Cheers. I'm definately in the learning camp at the moment!

Originally posted by Leito99

your doing well, keep it up

but one thing, dont play SnG on partypoker
they have very high rake...25% on micros which is ridiculous
so i would pick another site if i was you

good luck!

I don't plan on playing any SnG's again anytime soon, sticking to SSS until I master it! But thanks for the tip.


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_Anonymous_

Originally posted by MrMardyBum
Hello nice blog. However, as you are using PT3 let me give you a tip :).

When posting hand histories goto the "Hands" tab, double click the hand that you wish to post, then goto the "Hand Formatted" Tab and on that page you will find a little button next to where it says Copy to clipboard with 2+2 on it. Click that and then return here right click the page and select paste, and it will look like this.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($2.95)
Hero ($5.61)
UTG ($8.11)
UTG+1 ($12.92)
UTG+2 ($5.07)
CO ($5.07)
BTN ($8.41)

Dealt to Hero J♠ J♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.25

FLOP ($0.82) J♥ A♦ 7♠

Hero checks, BTN bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN raises to $8.01 (AI), Hero calls $3.71 (AI)

TURN ($11.24) J♥ A♦ 7♠ 5♥

RIVER ($11.24) J♥ A♦ 7♠ 5♥ 7♥

BTN shows 8♥ A♠
(Pre 29%, Flop 2.9%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero shows J♠ J♦
(Pre 71%, Flop 97.1%, Turn 100.0%)

Hero wins $10.68

I did mine with HEM manager but you will get the same effect. It looks nicer and is a lot easier to follow for the reader. Let me know if you want me to delete this long post off off your blog and just leave the opening. :)

Best of luck, I hope you make it through the limits, when I first got here I played the SSS and really enjoyed it, but it is becoming harder to find rooms to play at so when you feel a bit more confident I'd recommend looking at the BSS as the SSS route can also be very much like a rollercoaster in terms of variance also.

I don't know if I'm being simple, or if perhaps PokerTracker restricts some features during the trial, but I can't find a way to do this. Would I be better off with Holdem Manager?


jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
Oldschool Grinder

Hello from a fellow shortstacker! Well, at least for the moment. I'm giving SSS a try, playing NL25 on Pokerstars. Will follow your blog.

And BTW, I can't get PT3 to do what MrMardyBum suggests either, and I have the full version. I cut and paste the hand history to

http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

which works well.

Good luck,

jbpatzer


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_Anonymous_

I won't post any hands until I get this PokerTracker/Holdem Manager problem sorted out, because I'm guessing they don't make a lot of sense the way I've been posting them...

So this post is just a brief review of my last few days playing, and covers every session since I started blind stealing. As the results at the bottom show, it's not been the most successful spell of poker ever, but hopefully that's to be expected when I'm trying to learn a new part of my game. Also, I had a really dry run of cards when I won only one hand in 600! It was late on Friday night, and everyone was playing very loose, calling and raising with everything, so I just sat tight waiting for a good hand to come so I could take their money, and the cards never came. The one hand I won was with AQo, which doubled me up. But for 600 hands, no high pairs, no AK, basically nothing the starting hands chart would let me play! If it hadn't been for blind stealing it could have been a much worse result!

The blind stealing itself is going well, and hopefully when I can add that to some decent cards forming winning hands, I might win a session!

But for now, I'm happy that my game is improving, and I'll try again today and hopefully get some better results...

Results
Starting bankroll: $55.96
Time played: 5 hours
Hands played: 1720
Amount won: -$9.41
Bonus unlocked: $6.20
Total amount won: -$3.21
Bonus progrsss: $21.68 of $200 unlocked (deadline 9/8/10)
Closing bankroll: $57.75 (I deposited another $5 to activiate my MoneyBookers account for when I eventually need to withdraw. Wishful thinking!)

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_Anonymous_

Originally posted by jbpatzer
Hello from a fellow shortstacker! Well, at least for the moment. I'm giving SSS a try, playing NL25 on Pokerstars. Will follow your blog.

Good luck with it. A lot of patience is required if you start it when on a downswing! I've played around 6000 hands now of SSS exactly by the rules, and I'm down around 230 big blinds! Hopefully the upswing will start soon...

I'll have a look at your blog later, I'm always interested to read about fellow short stackers!


MrMardyBum
Joined: 14.03.2009
Oldschool Grinder
jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
Oldschool Grinder

I don't have that tab! I'll try to update my PT3.

Update: OK. Now it works!


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_Anonymous_

I'll have another go when I'm back on my PC later, thanks.


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_Anonymous_

Originally posted by MrMardyBum

Here you go :)

I definately can't do this on my trial version. I don't have that tab:

I guess I'll just have to do without until I can afford to buy a PokerTracker (or Holdem Manager) licence. The plan is to buy the licence out of bonus, so that I leave my poker winnings to build my bankroll. But at the moment I'm using the bonus to cover my losses, so I need to start winning first. Still got 50 days left on the trial to save up the cash.


MrMardyBum
Joined: 14.03.2009
Oldschool Grinder

Mine is a trial, I use HEM most of the time... You just need to go to PT3 and download the latest version. It won't affect your database :)


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_Anonymous_

Originally posted by MrMardyBum
Mine is a trial, I use HEM most of the time... You just need to go to PT3 and download the latest version. It won't affect your database :)

I'll get on it now, cheers. At least all this nonsense confirms that the title of my thread is justified...


MrMardyBum
Joined: 14.03.2009
Oldschool Grinder

We all were all beginners at some point. You'll get there :)


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_Anonymous_

I've finally got PokerTracker working properly with the new update! Thanks for your help everyone.

I only played a short session in the morning yesterday as I was too tired to play last night. It was my best session yet though! In an hour, I doubled up on 7 of the 8 NL10 tables open on Everest, so for the last 10 minutes or so I could only have 1 table open. I ended up getting bored so had to stop!

The only big hand I lost in the whole session was when I lost a stack with AA to AK when they hit their flush on the river. That was my first big loss with AA, so it stung a bit.

This hand gives you an idea of the sort of play I was up against yesterday, and this certainly wasn't an isolated incident:

Everest - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 10 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (CO): $2.70
BTN: $9.76
SB: $1.90
BB: $4.40
UTG: $1.70
UTG+1: $5.41
MP: $10.00
MP+1: $1.85
MP+2: $2.15
LP: $5.89

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, MP posts DB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.25) Hero has A♣ K♠

fold, fold, MP checks, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, fold, BB raises to $4.40 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $2.20 and is all-in, fold

Flop: ($6.05, 2 players) 8♣ 7♣ K♣

Turn: ($6.05, 2 players) 5♣

River: ($6.05, 2 players) Q♥

BB shows 2♦ 5♦ (One Pair, Fives)
Hero shows A♣ K♠ (Flush, Ace High)
Hero wins $5.65

I also doubled up with TT against 76, QQ against A2, and with this crazy hand:

Everest - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 10 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $9.11
Hero (BB): $2.74
UTG: $2.50
UTG+1: $11.42
MP: $1.55
MP+1: $3.03
MP+2: $4.34
LP: $3.27
CO: $2.12
BTN: $2.44

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 9♠ 9♥

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, fold, fold, LP calls $0.10, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.70, fold, MP calls $0.60, fold

Flop: ($1.65, 2 players) Q♣ T♣ 7♦
Hero bets $2.04 and is all-in, MP calls $0.85 and is all-in

Turn: ($3.35, 2 players) K♣

River: ($3.35, 2 players) 9♣

Hero shows 9♠ 9♥ (Three of a Kind, Nines)
MP shows 8♠ 9♦ (One Pair, Nines)
Hero wins $3.13

Sessions like yesterday make me regret my choice to play on Everest, because there's rarely more than 8 or 9 tables of NL10 running, so if I have a good spell I have to stop because I run out of tables. Which I suppose is an example of why I need to learn BSS at some point. But one thing at a time...

Results
Starting bankroll: $57.75
Time played: 1 hour
Hands played: 221
Amount won: $14.33
Bonus unlocked: $1.02
Total amount won: $15.35
Bonus progrsss: $22.70 of $200 unlocked (deadline 9/8/10)
Closing bankroll: $73.10

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_Anonymous_

I had another good run of form yesterday. I'm definately enjoying this good run of cards while it lasts (although I hope some of the improvement in results can go down to my increasing skill...).

I played 2 sessions yesterday, one in the morning (between 9.30 and 11.30 seems to be a pretty lucrative time on Everest, you see some crazy plays!) and one in the evening. It was the busiest evening I've seen on Everest so far, and there were around 20 NL10 tables open all evening (there's usually only about 10), so I got to select my tables which I think helped.

I played around 750 hands, and only lost 1 all in. I know this is partly down to luck, but I hope it's also to do with my new found ability to fold a hand! Like in this example:

Everest - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 10 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP+2: $1.08
LP: $9.85
CO: $1.85
BTN: $1.88
SB: $12.57
BB: $10.24
UTG: $1.46
UTG+1: $6.03
Hero (MP): $2.00
MP+1: $1.92

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 9♦ 9♣

UTG calls $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, MP+2 calls $0.50, fold, fold, BTN raises to $1.88 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls $0.58 and is all-in

Flop: ($2.91, 2 players) 8♠ 4♥ 4♦

Turn: ($2.91, 2 players) J♠

River: ($2.91, 2 players) J♣

BTN shows K♦ A♦ (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours)
MP+2 shows A♠ Q♦ (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours)
BTN wins $1.36
MP+2 wins $1.37

As it turns out, I would have won the hand had I called, but these are just the sort of situations that were getting me into trouble last week when I was consistently losing. As far as I'm concerned, I don't see how I can call 2 all-ins with only a pair of nines. Surely more often than not at least one of them has a higher pair than me, then I'm in trouble. I've also posted this hand in the hand evaluation forum, but any feedback on here would be really welcome too.

Results
Starting bankroll: $73.10
Time played: 2.5 hours
Hands played: 748
Amount won: $6.93
Bonus unlocked: $2.85
Total amount won: $9.78
Bonus progrsss: $25.55 of $200 unlocked (deadline 9/8/10)
Closing bankroll: $82.78

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_Anonymous_

I now have in big letters above my monitor the words:

STOP & THINK

I snap called his all in on the river because I'd decided on the turn that I had the best hand. If I'd have taken 10 seconds to look at the board properly, I wouldn't have called. This is the first one of these silly mistakes I've made in the last few days, but they're so costly when they happen that I need to eliminate them from my game completely. Just for the record, I think I should have gone all in on the turn, but part of me also thinks a fold would have been good. Folding a straight would take some effort though...

Everest - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP+1: $9.86
LP: $4.64
CO: $11.27
BTN: $1.95
SB: $2.23
Hero (BB): $2.00
UTG: $21.81
UTG+1: $1.85
MP: $2.95

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 4♥ 5♦

fold, fold, MP calls $0.10, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.25, 2 players) 7♣ 6♥ 7♦
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($0.25, 2 players) 8♦
Hero bets $0.15, MP calls $0.15

River: ($0.55, 2 players) T♥
Hero bets $0.35, MP raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $1.75 and is all-in, MP calls $0.15

MP shows A♦ 9♦ (Straight, Ten High)
Hero shows 4♥ 5♦ (Straight, Eight High)
MP wins $3.79

To make matters worse, my luck ran out tonight too:

Everest - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $6.28
BB: $9.75
UTG: $5.38
Hero (UTG+1): $2.21
MP: $9.64
MP+1: $5.87
CO: $8.43
BTN: $1.99

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K♥ K♠

fold, Hero raises to $0.40, MP calls $0.40, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) 4♦ 3♦ J♠
Hero bets $0.60, MP raises to $2.75, Hero calls $1.21 and is all-in

Turn: ($4.57, 2 players) 7♦

River: ($4.57, 2 players) 6♦

MP shows J♦ 6♥ (Flush, Jack High)
Hero shows K♥ K♠ (One Pair, Kings)
MP wins $4.27

I'll post my full session update sometime tomorrow, but I had to get those 2 hands out of my system before I go back to the tables tonight...


jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
Oldschool Grinder

When I'm back from my holiday, we should try a sweat session, as I'm pretty new to SSS too.


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_Anonymous_

Sounds like a plan. Although as I don't know what a sweat session is, my initial reaction is subject to change!


jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
Oldschool Grinder

Originally posted by lollujo
Sounds like a plan. Although as I don't know what a sweat session is, my initial reaction is subject to change!

The idea is to use Skype to communicate and Teamviewer or Mikogo to share screens, and one of us plays and we discuss how to play. Then we swap. I tried this on SnGs once this month, and it was OK, although my internet was playing up. That's my only experience, so it'll be the blind leading the blind. Have to wait until after my hols though.


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_Anonymous_

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by lollujo
Sounds like a plan. Although as I don't know what a sweat session is, my initial reaction is subject to change!

The idea is to use Skype to communicate and Teamviewer or Mikogo to share screens, and one of us plays and we discuss how to play. Then we swap. I tried this on SnGs once this month, and it was OK, although my internet was playing up. That's my only experience, so it'll be the blind leading the blind. Have to wait until after my hols though.

Sounds good to me. Let me know when you're back and we'll sort something out.


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