Originally posted by jbpatzer
Originally posted by TwiceT
when do we start shooting 50?i am rdyyyyy
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Well, as long as you're ready, that's OK then.
jb... owning everybody so hard.
Originally posted by purplefizz
Originally posted by jbpatzer
Originally posted by TwiceT
when do we start shooting 50?i am rdyyyyy
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Well, as long as you're ready, that's OK then.
owning everybody so hard.
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♠_biggrin: lol what a 2k post
good one
Originally posted by purplefizz
Originally posted by jbpatzer
Originally posted by TwiceT
when do we start shooting 50?i am rdyyyyy
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Well, as long as you're ready, that's OK then.
owning everybody so hard.
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You can always edit it. Impress me.
Originally posted by purplefizz
woooops excuse the drunk lady
True ladies are never drunk
+1BI tonight. Thought I should post some hands
Firstly, should I raise the flop here? I thought I'd just be isolating myself against better hands on such a dry flop, apart from the possible flush draw.
I would have been happy to get it in on the turn, but I probably should have bet more, even though he doesn't have the odds to call. I was pleased with myself for not betting the river, as I couldn't see a worse hand that calls the turn calling the river too. (So much for your implied odds on the turn matey!
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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO ($25.35)
Button ($26.63)
SB ($41.48)
jbpatzer (BB) ($56.46)
UTG ($29.84)
MP ($25)
Preflop: jbpatzer is BB with Q♣, 10:heart:
4 folds, SB bets $0.75, jbpatzer calls $0.50
Flop: ($1.50) 7♥, 3♠, Q♥ (2 players)
SB bets $1.05, jbpatzer calls $1.05
Turn: ($3.60) 10:diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $2.52, jbpatzer raises to $7.40, SB calls $4.88
River: ($18.40) 9♦ (2 players)
SB checks, jbpatzer checks
Total pot: $18.40 | Rake: $0.92
Results:
SB had K♣, J♠ (straight, King high).
jbpatzer had Q♣, 10:heart: (two pair, Queens and tens).
Outcome: SB won $17.48
And purely for your amusement, and to show how solid everyone is at NL25 SH rush.....
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($11.11)
SB ($5.91)
BB ($52.74)
jbpatzer (UTG) ($29.96)
MP ($26.05)
CO ($51.08)
Preflop: jbpatzer is UTG with K♦, K♣
jbpatzer bets $0.90, 1 fold, CO raises to $3.05, 2 folds, BB calls $2.80, jbpatzer raises to $12.30, 1 fold, BB calls $9.25
Flop: ($27.75) J♠, 8♥, 2♣ (2 players)
BB checks, jbpatzer bets $17.66 (All-In), BB calls $17.66
Turn: ($63.07) 3♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($63.07) 8♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $63.07 | Rake: $3
Results:
BB had 9♥, 3♥ (two pair, eights and threes).
jbpatzer had K♦, K♣ (two pair, Kings and eights).
Outcome: jbpatzer won $60.07
Well i mean if you're not calling of a shove with 93s on that board why play it in first place? You flop 2 backdoors, you go.
First hand I don't think you should raise that flop. As you said, you are just isolating yourself against better hands bar flush draws. All the 88-JJ and such medium hands are folding to a raise, whereas if you flat here you can get another street out of them. I'd probably play as you did on the turn to protect against the few straight draws that have shown up as well as that flush draw from the flop. Obvious check behind on the river, if he donked there i'd probably be folding as well. Well played imo.
@ QT hand:
- raise waay bigger. u play rly deep and u have position. i would raise to 9.50 or maybe even bigger if he is rly bad.
- bet/fold river. u have a ton of value vs AQ, KQ, KK, AA, T9, JJ;, AT, KT or 89 (mostly in hearts and dont believe)
- only KJ beats u. sets would probably re-raise turn, esp when u raise so small. def b/f river!!!!!!!
value value value. dont be biased/fooled by the outcome in this particular hand. longterm im sure u lost a ton ov ev here. especially bvb u will get called even lighter.
we learned that ppl dont fold! thats why we dont bluff much. thats why we said value value value!!!! so its not correct to say "i didnt see many worse hands calling on the river"
I CAN SEE MANY! go get new glasses!
Originally posted by TwiceT
@ QT hand:- raise waay bigger. u play rly deep and u have position. i would raise to 9.50 or maybe even bigger if he is rly bad.
- bet/fold river. u have a ton of value vs AQ, KQ, KK, AA, T9, JJ;, AT, KT or 89 (mostly in hearts and dont believe)
- only KJ beats u. sets would probably re-raise turn, esp when u raise so small. def b/f river!!!!!!!
value value value. dont be biased/fooled by the outcome in this particular hand. longterm im sure u lost a ton ov ev here. especially bvb u will get called even lighter.
we learned that ppl dont fold! thats why we dont bluff much. thats why we said value value value!!!! so its not correct to say "i didnt see many worse hands calling on the river"
I CAN SEE MANY! go get new glasses!
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Makes sense. I do seem to be able to make people fold at this limit though.
These are the glasses I need!
I think you just got pwned by TwiceT
The funny thing is that I pretty much agreed with you until I read TwiceT's post... a testament to my fishy critical thinking in poker. Of course, there is never a wrong analysis, and you also said things that makes sense. Keep going strong! It seems like you're starting to pwn NL25 now, the only question that arises is if you shouldn't start making a transition from rush to normal non-sicko-action SH since black friday? Dunno how rush tables are, but I can't imagine they're totally unaffected. Of course, being a sucker for promotions, you're probably grinding out the rush ring game tickets.
Originally posted by arisko
I think you just got pwned by TwiceTThe funny thing is that I pretty much agreed with you until I read TwiceT's post... a testament to my fishy critical thinking in poker. Of course, there is never a wrong analysis, and you also said things that makes sense. Keep going strong! It seems like you're starting to pwn NL25 now, the only question that arises is if you shouldn't start making a transition from rush to normal non-sicko-action SH since black friday? Dunno how rush tables are, but I can't imagine they're totally unaffected. Of course, being a sucker for promotions, you're probably grinding out the rush ring game tickets.
You know, I was thinking about it, and I just don't believe that AQ, KQ, AA, KK AT, etc would flat my raise on the turn. I think he's almost always on some sort of draw, and therefore has the nuts or nothing on the river, which is why I checked behind. I have a coaching session with TT tomorrow night, so I think I'll talk to him about this. He's usually right (well, always so far, but nobody's always right (except me when my students ask me a maths question obv)), so I've probably misunderstood something.
Rush traffic is the same as ever as far as I can see. I'm not playing at a time designed to net lots of US fish though, and the traffic seems OK up to NL200, so I think I'll be alright with rush for the time being (lol), but you never know when TT is going to throw me a curveball and make me play FR or HU or Razz or whatever.
And yes, I am a sucker for promotions and I am grinding out my bonus, but I don't know what I'm going to do with a $20 ring game ticket. Probably open a table of NL10 rush and try to get it up to $50 playing shit or bust like a maniac.
Originally posted by jbpatzer
Originally posted by arisko
I think you just got pwned by TwiceTThe funny thing is that I pretty much agreed with you until I read TwiceT's post... a testament to my fishy critical thinking in poker. Of course, there is never a wrong analysis, and you also said things that makes sense. Keep going strong! It seems like you're starting to pwn NL25 now, the only question that arises is if you shouldn't start making a transition from rush to normal non-sicko-action SH since black friday? Dunno how rush tables are, but I can't imagine they're totally unaffected. Of course, being a sucker for promotions, you're probably grinding out the rush ring game tickets.
You know, I was thinking about it, and I just don't believe that AQ, KQ, AA, KK AT, etc would flat my raise on the turn. I think he's almost always on some sort of draw ....
explain pls. what would he do with those hands vs your 3x turn raise? enlighten me prof