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Tomaloc Topic starter
Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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thanks unknown randomstacking 4tabler

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 112.36 BB
SB: 84.12 BB
Hero (BB): 107.32 BB
UTG: 78.04 BB
MP: 121.92 BB
CO: 80.84 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♠ K♣

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8.08 BB, UTG raises to 78.04 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 69.96 BB

Flop: (156.48 BB, 2 players) A♣ 2♠ 5♦

Turn: (156.48 BB, 2 players) 3♠

River: (156.48 BB, 2 players) 7♥

Hero shows K♠ K♣ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 80%, Flop 93%, Turn 95%)
UTG mucks J♦ T♦ (High Card, Ace) (Pre 20%, Flop 7%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 149.44 BB

poker ded


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011
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everybody solid


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martijnde666
Joined: 29.02.2008
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Hello gonna follow this blog! NH hahha :)

@tino Laan, do you play the 10nl zoom stake at the moment?
Your name sounds verry familiar :)


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011
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Playing NL25 again now, but yeah, you might've seen me splashing about on NL10 a few weeks ago


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Tomaloc Topic starter
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Joined: 17.01.2011
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another round of "wtf is 2-tabling bb's range"

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 129.68 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 103.8 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 84.2 BB
CO: 73.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♣ J♠

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.04 BB, SB raises to 8 BB, BB calls 7 BB, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to 18.24 BB, fold, BB calls 10.24 BB

Flop: (44.48 BB, 2 players) 9♦ A♠ 8♥
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (44.48 BB, 2 players) Q♣
bad card
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (44.48 BB, 2 players) 7♣
BB checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets 31.04 BB, BB requests TIME, BB calls 31.04 BB

Hero shows A♣ J♠ (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 56%, Flop 93%, Turn 89%)
BB mucks K♥ Q♥ (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 44%, Flop 7%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins 101.76 BB

preflop was probably spewy by me as well calling is awkward as well as folding, though i'm probably in bad shape against bb's range and he's likely to not be folding. so, fold? :f_confused:


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martijnde666
Joined: 29.02.2008
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I prefer c-bet (half pot) on flop because BB' thinks your range is very wide so he's gonna call with a lot of weaker hands.

Nice river bet :)


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Tomaloc Topic starter
Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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which weaker hands can he have to call a bet though? his pre range for cc 3b usually won't be weak as to include KQs, it will usually be like AK QQ AQ JJ TT sometimes KK AA and other pp, something like that.

i decided that this was a one street hand so i decided to just call one bet or go for a big bet on the river.
didn't see many worse hands to call and i didn't like the runout but he'd probably bet a hand like AK QQ otr, so i just thought that i had the best hand somehow and was like "well whatever".


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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weird

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2530682
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $26.78
SB: $17.14
BB: $33.25
UTG: $25.00
MP: $53.02
Hero (CO): $28.52

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with 9 :diamond: 8 :diamond:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.60, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.55) T :spade: 7 :heart: 6 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.55) 2 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, BTN calls $1.10

River: ($3.75) Q :spade: (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero checks, BTN bets $3.25, Hero raises to $26.82 all in, ...

BTN requests TIME, Hero says "lol", BTN calls $21.83 all in

Final Pot: $53.91
BTN shows 6 :diamond: 6 :spade: (three of a kind, Sixes)
Hero shows 9 :diamond: 8 :diamond: (a straight, Six to Ten)
Hero wins $51.91
(Rake: $2.00)

poker easy, flop the nuts overbet shove get paid
that said i'm not sure how much i like my line, going for a super large c/r on turn again is probably better. as played a massive part of his river range is going to check behind i think


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Originally posted by martijnde666
I prefer c-bet (half pot) on flop because BB' thinks your range is very wide so he's gonna call with a lot of weaker hands.

Nice river bet :)

They think your range is very wide because of what? My view is that people on the lower stakes more often overestimate than underestimate your handstrength. Especially when you 4-bet against 2 players they tend to give you a strong range.

I definitely prefer checking back the flop. They will call most pp's once so for that part of the range it doesn't matter whether you check back flop or bet flop but by checking back flop you can get value from their bluffs and they can improve their shit hands to weak-made hands.

On the river you always have the best hand so vbet is fine.

I do think that you give him too strong of a range Tomaloc. Imo a lot of weaker players do include hand such as kqs in their cc 3b range especially bvbvb on the lower stakes. Still not a huge fan of 4-betting there without reads but don't think it's a big mistake since you are in position, can often take down the pot with a c-bet and people won't 5-bet you light.

@89 hand, I would always bet river. Completely agree that you'll get a check behind very often.


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Joined: 17.01.2011
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i dunno, i think i see AK QQ very often when cc3b hands go to showdown but that's probably because they often just fold at some point (pre or post) when they don't have these hands. :f_biggrin:

98 hand i think it's either bet/bet/bet (probably better) or keep going for a huge c/r, protect my checking range on this kind of board. two streets of betting just doesn't do the hand justice :P
so yeah, it was definitely misplayed but all good in the end :f_biggrin:


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how do you guys keep focused when playing?

i've noticed a trend in my last sessions:


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It's likely you drew the graph after a long session because it contains a mistake. NSD should start at the origin :f_biggrin:.

On a serious note, I always had the same problem. Best and probably one of the only solutions is short breaks, just to clear your mind for a few minutes.


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Joined: 17.01.2011
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it's meant to be nsd winrate though yeah, i did draw the graph after a long session :f_biggrin:

nowadays i'm just doing lots of small sessions, though of course each new beginning is slightly worse than the last :f_zZz:


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martijnde666
Joined: 29.02.2008
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LOL, graph looks verry similar haha.

I use Tiltbreaker app, which forces me to take a 15 minutes break after each our of play.

Only disadvantage is that I lose my deepstack(s) when it shuts down my tables


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Rihard4a
Joined: 08.09.2010
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Originally posted by Tomaloc
it's meant to be nsd winrate though yeah, i did draw the graph after a long session :f_biggrin:

nowadays i'm just doing lots of small sessions, though of course each new beginning is slightly worse than the last :f_zZz:

Fish! I am 10k hands in since the start of the month.


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Joined: 17.01.2011
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thanks for the input guys and yeah i've always been a huge volume fish lol

on another note, massive respect to One Drop winner Daniel Colman for "avoiding the media" and just talking some common sense in 2p2 instead, would recommend the read. pretty much agree with everything


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Joined: 17.01.2011
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pro regs

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 103 BB
BB: 101 BB
UTG: 142.6 BB
MP: 105.36 BB
Hero (CO): 110.28 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♦

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.76 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 18.76 BB, BTN raises to 40 BB, Hero raises to 110.28 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 81.4 BB

this is how you keep a good redline guys


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Joined: 17.01.2011
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month so far

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clearly the winrate i always deserved


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A very entertaining and interesting blog. There is good balance. You have got a new follower.

Good luck at the tables!


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Originally posted by Tomaloc
on another note, massive respect to One Drop winner Daniel Colman for "avoiding the media" and just talking some common sense in 2p2 instead, would recommend the read. pretty much agree with everything

I was actually talking with friends the other night about how I think gambling shouldn't be advertised (along with that 'payday loan' bullshit). Considering I play poker and make a living on Betfair they were left speechless. But I agree with his sentiments as well. Interesting read.


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