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ghaleon Topic starter
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Well did play another and nice profit from that also. Sort of funny example of probably worst player on table crushing the table. Its sort of weird game as these seem to happen fairly often imo. Then again these guys are ones who most end in big pots and then lady variance can make these thing happen. Have also seen these guys lose their 1000bb stack in half hour so works both ways.

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Game #1681615893: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:59:58 2022/05/22
Seated players
Seat 1: RobPot (€85.61)
Seat 2: snipa (€29.95) (sitting out)
Seat 3: AceCat (€426.95)
Seat 4: joshaiscrazy (€173.87)
Seat 5: Brutty (€141.43)
Seat 6: spicyALLIN (€73.46)
Blinds and button
spicyALLIN has the button
RobPot posts small blind €0.25
AceCat posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Brutty Q♣:K♥:6♣:J♠:
Preflop
joshaiscrazy folds
Brutty raises €1.75 to €1.75
spicyALLIN calls €1.75
RobPot calls €1.50
AceCat raises €6.50 to €7
Brutty folds
spicyALLIN calls €5.25
RobPot calls €5.25
Flop 9♦:5♥:6♠:
RobPot checks
AceCat bets €11.37
spicyALLIN calls €11.37
RobPot folds
Turn 4♠:
AceCat checks
spicyALLIN bets €45.49
AceCat calls €45.49
River 9♣:
AceCat bets €136.47
spicyALLIN calls €9.60, and is all-in
Uncalled bet returned to AceCat: €126.87
Showdown
AceCat shows 5♦:9♥:T♥:A♦:, Full House
spicyALLIN shows T♣:A♥:7♣:8♠:, A Straight
AceCat wins €152.67
Summary
Total pot €155.67 Rake €3

So in short:
Preflop: BB squeezes, not recommended.
Flop: Cbet flop 3way, not recommended.
Turn: X-c versus pot bet with dry two pair, REALLY not recommended.
River: Donk shoves SPR 0.07, WELL PLAYED.

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I love the stump!


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Stump is from decorative apple tree we had but it caused such a mess with those tiny apples that we decided to cut it. Apples are very small and very bitter not really meant to be eaten I suppose.

We did take branch from it and placed it into field. Has grown to small tree at this point. That thing seems to like growing a lot. When we had cut it to pieces those pieces started to grow new branches until they dried up.


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Originally posted by ghaleon
Btw has everyone disappeared from omaha hand analyze area?

I have been busy in work, and will be for this and next week. After that, will be in the area daily.

And we will definitely look at the posted hands in this week's PLO Primetime at Wednesday!


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Got nice price for welding on that well pump for just 20€. So should have that ready for use soon. Build today one of these "growing boxes" but planks were bit twisted which did cause whole thing to become "twisty" as heck. But I suppose carrots, beetroots, radishes, etc. don't care about the looks too much :)

Also did some "kulotus" few days ago. Wonder if there is word of it in English. Anyway burned some old dry grass from fairly wide area. Now would be nice time to cut some of those pesky sallows before new grass comes. Problem is I could not get that damn clearing saw to start. Fuel should be ok and did change plug as that looked pretty bad. I suppose I could check if filter is dirty or something. Always have issues with these 2-stroke engine tools... Which is likely indication of bad maintenance.


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Two session so far today. Will perhaps play third after Finland ice hockey game. Around 100€ down in today so far. One big bluff didnt go my way in plo50 and then just zillion hands not connecting anything and losing small pots. Sometimes its just impossible to connect to anything.


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This was the bluff hand. I think preflop is probably close and river could be x-f but I dont personally mind this line.

Game #1682346071: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 15:36:10 2022/05/24
Seated players
Seat 1: Tommy_long (€36.95) (sitting out)
Seat 2: murrmirr (€58.59)
Seat 3: IBetYouPass (€53.64)
Seat 5: UBetIReact (€48.08)
Seat 6: Muresio (€41.41)
Blinds and button
IBetYouPass has the button
UBetIReact posts small blind €0.25
Muresio posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Muresio J♣:8♠:7♣:8♦:
Preflop
murrmirr raises €1.75 to €1.75
IBetYouPass folds
UBetIReact calls €1.50
Muresio calls €1.25
Flop 6♠:7♦:2♦:
UBetIReact checks
Muresio bets €3.93
murrmirr calls €3.93
UBetIReact calls €3.93
Turn 6♣:
UBetIReact checks
Muresio bets €8.52
murrmirr calls €8.52
UBetIReact folds
River J♠:
Muresio bets €27.21, and is all-in
murrmirr calls €27.21
Showdown
murrmirr shows T♠:7♠:7♥:T♦:, Full House
Muresio shows J♣:8♠:7♣:8♦:, Two pairs, Jacks up
murrmirr wins €85.50
Summary
Total pot €88.50 Rake €3


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Originally posted by Kyyberi
I don't get the flop bet in 3way pot.

Well perhaps its too optimistic play. Idea is to block top pair and have future blockers to increase fe for flop bet as well. Other option is to just x-f flop which could be best. But yeah perhaps we dont want to use this sort of stuff in multiway.

Bit profit from last session. Got screwed twice in 4bet pots. In first three way allin on flop where I was actually favorite with dry AAxx...

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So I open CO, BU make min3bet, SB cold call. I decided to 4bet assuming to not really have almost any fe but SPR will be like 1.4 so should be fine.

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Same story in this one pretty much. I open, maniac min3bet, BB cold call, I 4bet and both call.

Then got two nice pots from that maniac.

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I open and call versus 3bet and x-r flop.

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Didn't feel nice to call that turn and river but this is also theory wise solid bluff catch.

Game #1682495316: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 20:02:47 2022/05/24
Seated players
Seat 1: SikaRillo (€50)
Seat 2: Sari96 (€50) (sitting out)
Seat 3: NEVER_enough (€49.75)
Seat 4: Trump4Prezz (€102.47)
Seat 5: Smurffy (€91.02)
Seat 6: Vegard77 (€105.34)
Blinds and button
NEVER_enough has the button
Trump4Prezz posts small blind €0.25
Smurffy posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Smurffy 9♠:T♥:T♠:9♣:
Preflop
Vegard77 calls €0.50
SikaRillo folds
NEVER_enough folds
Trump4Prezz folds
Smurffy raises €1.25 to €1.75
Vegard77 calls €1.25
Flop 8♠:9♥:7♣:
Smurffy bets €1.87
Vegard77 raises €9.36 to €9.36
Smurffy calls €7.49
Turn A♣:
Smurffy checks
Vegard77 bets €22.47
Smurffy calls €22.47
River 4♦:
Smurffy checks
Vegard77 bets €67.41
Smurffy calls €57.44, and is all-in
Uncalled bet returned to Vegard77: €9.97
Showdown
Smurffy shows 9♠:T♥:T♠:9♣:, Three of a kind, Nines
Vegard77 shows J♥:2♣:2♦:3♣:, A Pair of Deuces
Smurffy wins €179.29
Summary
Total pot €182.29 Rake €3


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i like the flop donk a lot: the preflop agressor can not really bluffraise here because one player is still to act. but since both players call the flop 2nd barreling the turn seems too optimistic to me: you block some flushdraws with the d and overpairs like the paired turn to make another call

is the call with topset from murrmirr standard? or some sort of gto balanced call? that would make me reevaluate the player pool strength

river 3rd barrel as played with 2 boatblockers is mucho gusto


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3way flops are very different from hu flops. Most bluffs vs one opponent are marginally or slightly +EV with certain FE. Vs two opponents the FE roughly drops to half, making most bluffs -EV, especially on wet boards.

We can see this flop situation from solver perspective in today's PLO Primetime livestream. Be there!


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I were surprised to see 77 and not sure if that is good play or not from villain. He was more in passive side in general though. I don't mind his line though as he is in position and can go for delayed raise on blank turns if I choose to barrel. Of course on this turn raise make no sense as hand is completely locked down.


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Anyway I got that damn clearing saw running yesterday and did blast those things (can't remember word anymore, willows?) away. Lot easier now as they are mainly small and not like 1cm+ wide :)

Did change plug for the saw. Perhaps that helped. Also got well pump working thanks for the metal worker lady who fixed it after her work day. Next would be oil changes for grass cutters.

Really hot in Finnish standards today. 23c in shadow. Luckily air pump is cooling house this summer.


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Started the sims for this evening, and have to say that results are a bit surprising...


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Rough session yesterday. First 15 mins down 150€ or so. Two times AAxx getting screwed in 3bet and 4bet pots. Also perhaps overplayed wrap in 3bet pot as there was also fd available. Bet-called flop and hit straight on turn but flush completed also. SPR was only 0.3 so crying called turn and was dead.

Did manage to get tiny bit on profit in the end. Big thanks was on somewhat interesting hand where I had mediocre AAxx. MP minraise and I decided to only call as SPR would have stayed fairly high with 3bet. BU went for squeeze, MP call, I 4bet and BU 5bet 120bb deep. BU had like AJ92ss or something like that which was really surprising as guy had been fairly passive so far.

But I think versus those minraise opens it can actually make more sense to flat more with AAxx that don't have solid support imo.


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Heh this one felt good versus aggro player. I think preflop is most questionable street. This flop I like to donk decent amount and nuts without pair blockers and bd fd is imo very nice one as value. Though this guy might be cbetting too much anyway. Once he raises flop main value comes from his bluffs and semibluffs so 3betting this doesnt make sense to me. Turn open lot new stuff and I do have fd now as well in case he has straight. If turn was more blank in way of opening new draws I think x-c again would have been the play.

Game #1683718714: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 15:34:11 2022/05/27
Seated players
Seat 1: Sari96 (€31.07)
Seat 3: Klass65 (€24.18)
Seat 4: Gyryra (€38.12)
Seat 6: GreenBone (€60.42)
Blinds and button
Sari96 has the button
Klass65 posts small blind €0.10
Gyryra posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Gyryra 4♥:6♣:4♦:K♣:
Preflop
GreenBone folds
Sari96 raises €0.85 to €0.85
Klass65 folds
Gyryra calls €0.60
Flop 5♦:3♥:7♣:
Gyryra bets €0.90
Sari96 raises €3.60 to €3.60
Gyryra calls €2.70
Turn T♣:
Gyryra checks
Sari96 bets €6.75
Gyryra raises €29.25 to €29.25
Sari96 calls €19.87, and is all-in
Uncalled bet returned to Gyryra: €2.63
Showdown
River 2♠:
Sari96 shows 8♦:A♣:6♠:3♣:, A Pair of Threes
Gyryra shows 4♥:6♣:4♦:K♣:, A Straight
Gyryra wins €60.37
Summary
Total pot €62.24 Rake €1.87


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Oh man... Struggling to make profit and people make plays like these.

Game #1684274083: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 17:54:09 2022/05/28
Seated players
Seat 1: slipperynip2 (€156.16)
Seat 3: glass2022 (€45.98)
Seat 4: morra_di (€16.78)
Seat 5: Numira (€111.78)
Blinds and button
slipperynip2 has the button
glass2022 posts small blind €0.25
morra_di posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Numira 2♥:T♣:A♥:T♦:
Preflop
Numira raises €1.75 to €1.75
slipperynip2 folds
glass2022 raises €5.01 to €5.26
morra_di folds
Numira calls €3.51
Flop 7♥:4♥:5♠:
glass2022 bets €9.27
Numira calls €9.27
Turn Q♥:
glass2022 bets €26.02
Numira raises €52.04 to €52.04
glass2022 calls €5.43, and is all-in
Uncalled bet returned to Numira: €20.59
Showdown
River 4♦:
glass2022 shows 5♥:K♣:4♣:K♦:, Full House
Numira shows ;2h:T♣:A♥:T♦:, A Flush
glass2022 wins €89.46
Summary
Total pot €92.46 Rake €3


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Its weird thing with these maniacs. Maybe its just my mindset or something but it just feels like I almost never have hot deck with these guys. Ton of junk preflop and when having decent hand it just doesnt connect. Today had one of these guys and maybe I were bit too call happy postflop versus him in few occasions but this end of session hand kind of show reason I had hard time to give guy credit. This guy spewed few buyins after this but then sitout and I decided to end the session.

Game #1684378240: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 21:30:15 2022/05/28
Seated players
Seat 1: Hooch1234 (€60.31)
Seat 2: KingLo0cO (€25) (sitting out)
Seat 3: Headrusch (€91.45)
Seat 4: subberto (€88.70)
Seat 5: jaarli3 (€47.48)
Seat 6: Numira (€45.75)
Blinds and button
Headrusch has the button
subberto posts small blind €0.10
jaarli3 posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards '
Dealt to Numira J♦:9♥:8♥:Q♦:
Preflop
Numira raises €0.85 to €0.85
Hooch1234 calls €0.85
Headrusch folds
subberto folds
jaarli3 raises €3.25 to €3.50
Numira calls €2.65
Hooch1234 calls €2.65
Flop A♦:9♠:Q♣:
jaarli3 bets €7.95
Numira calls €7.95
Hooch1234 calls €7.95
Turn 5♦:
jaarli3 bets €17.22
Numira raises €34.30 to €34.30, and is all-in
Hooch1234 folds
jaarli3 calls €17.08
Showdown
River A♥:
jaarli3 shows 8♦:T♣:6♠:7♥:, A Pair of Aces
Numira shows J♦:9♥:8♥:Q♦:, Two pairs, Aces up
Numira wins €100.55
Summary
Total pot €103.05 Rake €2.50

This hand was earlier where I open MP, BU call, SB call, BB squeeze, I call and BU call. Flop with SPR 1.8 I couldnt see fold as option. Its just mentally quite challenging when you get punished by this sort of lunacy over and over. Q752ss with low suit. Like bottom 15% hand or something?

So yeah as villain was open raising like 90% of hands and was on aggro side postflop it was tough to give credit. That combined with him hitting boats left and right (most of time with absolute junk) made it bit tough one. Luckily I got some back before he left.


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Close to 4 bin down but played only PLO25 today. Some nasty ones like this:

Open BU, cbet 1/3 on flop, 1/2 on turn and pot river. Villain x-r river. Perhaps I should find hero fold as I also block 44. 22 and JJ still possible.

This one perhaps 3bet pre would be better if playing from CO. I think from BU I like call more at least. So EP open, I call CO, BU call and SB call. Flop I decided to bet half pot, turn half pot and BU raises. Perhaps again spot to hero fold but couldnt get away. This guy is like vpip 60 but then again not that aggro postflop. So there is actually quite a few hands I am beat against.


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But yeah rough run today in pretty much any drawing spot plus just absurd amount of flops I kept missing in 3bet pots with very smoothly flopping hands.


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