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Message original de Jiibi
Ok merci
Et autre question sur le niveau, comment t'évalues la NL100 et NL200.fr par rapport au ZOOM100 et 200 si tu te level pas ?

$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($200) 100bb
UTG+1 ($184.83) 92bb
CO ($680.46) 340bb
ilares (BTN) ($200) 100bb
SB ($356.18) 178bb
BB ($231.02) 116bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is BTN K♠ Q♥
UTG raises to $6, UTG+1 calls $6, 1 fold, ilares raises to $24, 2 folds, UTG calls $18, UTG+1 calls $18

Flop: 7♦ 2♣ 8♦ ($75, 3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, ilares checks

Turn: Q♠ ($75, 3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, ilares bets $33.21, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $66.42, ilares calls $33.21

River: 3♠ ($207.84, 2 players)
UTG+1 goes all-in $94.41, ilares calls $94.41

Final Pot: $396.66

woot

loul

$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($232) 116bb
UTG+1 ($206) 103bb
CO ($241.08) 121bb
BTN ($200) 100bb
ilares (SB) ($440.96) 220bb
BB ($207.16) 104bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is SB 6♥ 6♦
3 folds, BTN raises to $5, ilares calls $4, BB calls $3

Flop: 7♣ A♠ K♦ ($15, 3 players)
ilares checks, BB checks, BTN checks

Turn: A♦ ($15, 3 players)
ilares checks, BB checks, BTN checks

River: K♣ ($15, 3 players)
ilares bets $6.58,

$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($200) 100bb
ilares (UTG+1) ($343.19) 172bb
CO ($527.55) 264bb
BTN ($203) 102bb
SB ($534.98) 267bb
BB ($204.71) 102bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is UTG+1 8♣ 8♦
1 fold, ilares raises to $6, 2 folds, SB calls $5, BB raises to $24, ilares calls $18, SB folds

Flop: 4♥ A♥ 10:spade: ($54, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares checks

Turn: J♦ ($54, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $36.61, BB calls $36.61

River: 6♦ ($127.22, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $88.33,

muhahaha

Message original de ilares
$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($201) 101bb
UTG+1 ($572.58) 286bb
CO ($446.81) 223bb
ilares (BTN) ($396.63) 198bb
SB ($270.89) 135bb
BB ($295.84) 148bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is BTN 3♦ A♦
UTG raises to $6, 2 folds, ilares raises to $18, 1 fold, BB calls $16, UTG calls $12

Flop: K♣ Q♥ 4♦ ($55, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, ilares bets $17, BB folds, UTG calls $17

Turn: 10:diamond: ($89, 2 players)
UTG checks, ilares checks

River: 9♣ ($89, 2 players)
UTG checks, ilares bets $39.65, UTG folds

Final Pot: $89

ilares wins $125.85 (net +$51.20)

BB lost $18
UTG lost $35

pourquoi bluff cher

Pourquoi tu bet pas turn ?

Mon avis.
Le T est moche imo pour bet.
Tu vas devoir fold malgré ton équité si UTG C/R. Tant dit que si villain check river, sa range sera cappé et tu auras une marge de manoeuvre pour soit placé un bluff, soit abandonné. Bien sûr, une carte gratuite pour toucher un et toujours agréable par la même occasion.

la main arrive en vidéo et tout

L'avocat du diable a passé Ilares à la moulinette dans cette video
Faites nous savoir en remplissant le sondage (en haut de cette page) de ce thread si vous êtes du coté d'Ilares ou bien du Devil's advocate !!!!

Voici la main en question:

Message original de ilares
$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($201) 101bb
UTG+1 ($572.58) 286bb
CO ($446.81) 223bb
ilares (BTN) ($396.63) 198bb
SB ($270.89) 135bb
BB ($295.84) 148bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is BTN 3♦ A♦
UTG raises to $6, 2 folds, ilares raises to $18, 1 fold, BB calls $16, UTG calls $12

Flop: K♣ Q♥ 4♦ ($55, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, ilares bets $17, BB folds, UTG calls $17

Turn: 10:diamond: ($89, 2 players)
UTG checks, ilares checks

River: 9♣ ($89, 2 players)
UTG checks, ilares bets $39.65, UTG folds

Final Pot: $89

ilares wins $125.85 (net +$51.20)

BB lost $18
UTG lost $35

pourquoi bluff cher

izi bet turn on est juste trop orienté value turn si on ne barrel pas ici.

J'ai pas compris le but de la vidéo.
Apparemment c'est pas une vidéo éducative puisque Maxi ne donne pas son vrai avis sur la main (c'est bien ça ?). Je pense pas que ce soit une vidéo humoristique non plus ou alors j'ai rien compris.

Mon avis sur la main : je pense pas que je CB contre 2 joueurs. Je pense qu'on a pas assez de FE et d'équité. Comme CB bluff je préfère prendre AJ, AT, J9s.
Par contre j'aime assez le sizing d'ilares en bluff comme en value.

Turn c'est close mais je pense qu'on fera assez souvent fold AQ pour justifier un bet. Mon plan serait de give up river sur un non ♦ parce qu'il aura trop souvent AK et parfois QQ.

River on représente que KJ mais en même temps on a pas des tonnes de bluff. J'aime assez le bet et le sizing aussi.

Message original de adrimam67
J'ai pas compris le but de la vidéo.
Apparemment c'est pas une vidéo éducative puisque Maxi ne donne pas son vrai avis sur la main (c'est bien ça ?). Je pense pas que ce soit une vidéo humoristique non plus ou alors j'ai rien compris.
.

Le but c'est de s'ouvrir à toutes les possibilités et non plus à un jeu "standard", en argumentant le plus possible et en créant le débat.

Avant, personne ne se posait la question si il fallait raise à 3bb ou pas, et puis certains ont commencé à minraise par exemple, parce qu'ils se sont posé la question.

(et attention, je suis d'accord avec l'avocat du diable plus qu'avec Ilares ^^ )

réponse en vidéo incoming!

$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($200) 100bb
UTG+1 ($303.03) 152bb
CO ($200) 100bb
ilares (BTN) ($273.98) 137bb
SB ($200) 100bb
BB ($219.47) 110bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is BTN 7♦ 7♣
3 folds, ilares raises to $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: J♣ 4♠ 7♥ ($9, 2 players)
BB bets $5.04, ilares raises to $13.63, BB raises to $26.29, ilares raises to $38.95, BB raises to $51.61, ilares raises to $64.27, BB calls $12.66

Turn: A♣ ($137.54, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares checks

River: 6♠ ($137.54, 2 players)
BB goes all-in $151.20, ilares calls $151.20

Final Pot: $439.94

$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($200) 100bb
UTG+1 ($219.03) 110bb
CO ($269.50) 135bb
ilares (BTN) ($208.85) 104bb
SB ($206) 103bb
BB ($203) 102bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is BTN 9♠ 9♥
3 folds, ilares raises to $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: 8♦ 6♥ J♠ ($9, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $3.95, BB calls $3.95

Turn: 9♦ ($16.90, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $14.04, BB calls $14.04

River: K♠ ($44.98, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $37.37, BB raises to $112, ilares ?

#spot chiant

Message original de ilares
$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($200) 100bb
UTG+1 ($219.03) 110bb
CO ($269.50) 135bb
ilares (BTN) ($208.85) 104bb
SB ($206) 103bb
BB ($203) 102bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is BTN 9♠ 9♥
3 folds, ilares raises to $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: 8♦ 6♥ J♠ ($9, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $3.95, BB calls $3.95

Turn: 9♦ ($16.90, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $14.04, BB calls $14.04

River: K♠ ($44.98, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $37.37, BB raises to $112, ilares ?

#spot chiant

tu as des semblant de stats sur lui ?

@maxi: non

$2.50/$5 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($511.20) 102bb
UTG+1 ($580.42) 116bb
CO ($694.73) 139bb
ilares (BTN) ($650.72) 130bb
SB ($500) 100bb
BB ($527.89) 106bb

Pre-Flop: ($7.50, 6 players) ilares is BTN 9♠ 8♥
3 folds, ilares raises to $10, 1 fold, BB calls $5

Flop: 10:club: A♠ 5♣ ($22.50, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $9.88, BB calls $9.88

Turn: Q♠ ($42.26, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $60, BB calls $60

River: 6♦ ($162.26, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares bets $113.21,

pouet?

Message original de ilares
$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($200) 100bb
UTG+1 ($303.03) 152bb
CO ($200) 100bb
ilares (BTN) ($273.98) 137bb
SB ($200) 100bb
BB ($219.47) 110bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is BTN 7♦ 7♣
3 folds, ilares raises to $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: J♣ 4♠ 7♥ ($9, 2 players)
BB bets $5.04, ilares raises to $13.63, BB raises to $26.29, ilares raises to $38.95, BB raises to $51.61, ilares raises to $64.27, BB calls $12.66

Turn: A♣ ($137.54, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares checks

River: 6♠ ($137.54, 2 players)
BB goes all-in $151.20, ilares calls $151.20

Final Pot: $439.94

Spoiler

ilares shows three of a kind, Sevens
7♦ 7♣
BB shows high card Ace
9♠ 8♣

ilares wins $437.14 (net +$217.67)

BB lost $219.47

#outplayed

WTF ces clickback pourquoi pas push flop sur le 6bet ?

Message original de GhOsT4poker

Message original de ilares
$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($200) 100bb
UTG+1 ($303.03) 152bb
CO ($200) 100bb
ilares (BTN) ($273.98) 137bb
SB ($200) 100bb
BB ($219.47) 110bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is BTN 7♦ 7♣
3 folds, ilares raises to $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: J♣ 4♠ 7♥ ($9, 2 players)
BB bets $5.04, ilares raises to $13.63, BB raises to $26.29, ilares raises to $38.95, BB raises to $51.61, ilares raises to $64.27, BB calls $12.66

Turn: A♣ ($137.54, 2 players)
BB checks, ilares checks

River: 6♠ ($137.54, 2 players)
BB goes all-in $151.20, ilares calls $151.20

Final Pot: $439.94

Spoiler

ilares shows three of a kind, Sevens
7♦ 7♣
BB shows high card Ace
9♠ 8♣

ilares wins $437.14 (net +$217.67)

BB lost $219.47

#outplayed

WTF ces clickback pourquoi pas push flop sur le 6bet ?

parce que ca lui fait fold ses bluffs?

main chiante #2:

$2.50/$5 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($1,164.23) 233bb
UTG+1 ($607.49) 121bb
CO ($595.04) 119bb
BTN ($1,337.81) 268bb
SB ($627.38) 125bb
ilares (BB) ($641.27) 128bb

Pre-Flop: ($7.50, 6 players) ilares is BB A♦ J♠
3 folds, BTN raises to $15, 1 fold, ilares raises to $50, BTN calls $35

Flop: 4♣ 7♣ K♠ ($102.50, 2 players)
ilares bets $70.78, BTN calls $70.78

Turn: 3♣ ($244.06, 2 players)
ilares checks, BTN checks

River: 4♥ ($244.06, 2 players)
ilares checks, BTN bets $185, ilares goes all-in $520.49, BTN calls $335.49

Final Pot: $1,285.04

Message original de ilares
parce que ca lui fait fold ses bluffs?

Euh si il est capable de te 6 bet, je pense pas qu'il fold sur un push..

Si ?

$1/$2 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($513.60) 257bb
UTG+1 ($203) 102bb
CO ($200) 100bb
ilares (BTN) ($421.83) 211bb
SB ($302.23) 151bb
BB ($252.99) 126bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) ilares is BTN A♠ A♥
3 folds, ilares raises to $4, SB raises to $14, BB raises to $34, ilares calls $30, SB calls $20

Flop: Q♦ 8♦ 8♥ ($102, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, ilares bets $36, SB raises to $86, BB folds, ilares calls $50

Turn: 9♥ ($274, 2 players)
SB checks, ilares checks

River: 7♦ ($274, 2 players)
SB goes all-in $182.23, ilares calls $182.23

Final Pot: $638.46