Thin value & bluff induce

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In this video ge5sterne reviews a few Hands in the HM-Replayer which he has recently played on the Midstakes, both SH and FR. The theme of this video is thin valuebetting and bluffinduce/bluffcatching.


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  • CBFunk


  • Saschinho1981


    seems to be english...
  • JojoDeluxe


    great stuff!
  • CBFunk



    Thank you, fixed
  • hornyy


    hihi nach 4 minuten läufts einfach weiter
  • hornyy


    40 sekunden lang :(
  • hook101


    nice video. thx.
  • Dojot


    nice video
  • just1nsan0r


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  • rifearmo85


  • ultrafastspectroscopy


    like the vid a lot, but i think at around 26:00 AKs is played not optimal on the River for the following reasons:

    you give him a range of weak Kx and busted draws (which is reasonable) and you assume, that he is going to bluffcatch with his Kx and fold/bluffraise with his busted draws. From this point of view you will have to bet/call any of your made hands on the River and i think this should be pretty obv to any opponent playing these stakes. So considering this fact you have to make him believe, that you are on a busted draw, since he should know, that your valuerange completely destroys him and you do not have a bet/folding range, he can bluff against. when counting hand combos i don´t think you have a huge bluffing range on the river, since a lot of the SC have SD value(QT/JT/T9s) against villains busted draws. So overall the vbet is extremly thin in principle. But when taking your betsize into account here, i do believe it is even bad, because i assume, that you will never take this betsize for bluffing. This under 200$ plz call me light just turns your hand face-up too. Furthermore your argument, that he is able to bluffshove his busted draws to get you off of your draws on this small betsize is not correct in my mind. As you said you will never ever be bet/folding your made hands here, because villain does not represent a lot. So with bluffshoving the River he is targeting your busted draw range only and in this case it is way better to bet large. If you go for your 200% here, the pot will be 570 and he has to invest 1000$ for winning 570 which has to work in 64% of the time. if you go for 330$ the pot is going to be 700 and he has to invest 1000$ so he needs just 59% FEQ. so the bigger you get the pot the more likely he should be to bluffshove against your draws because there is more deadmoney to collect. The argument of you getting better odds to call are not existent in this spot, since i assume (and hope :D) that you are not going to call here with 98s. Another positive effect of the close to pot bet is the mentioned polarizing effect since you do look a lot more bluffy when potting (maybe even slightly overbetting) in this spot.

    So to sum it up, if you´d like to go for thin value here I guess you have to take a significantly larger betsize. (i think overbetting to 444$ would be so cute and you probably would own him completely)
  • ge5sterne


    I agree, after reviewing the hand I do like a polarising bet with this hand, which is outside of our perceived polarized range a lot. I believe the reason why I didn't bet bigger is, that I felt he wouldn't call a very big bet with KQ, which is pretty much what I put him on. But even if he is less likely to call with KQ if we bet around Potsize or even overbet, it will probably still show a bigger profit since he will still call often enough for it to be the more +EV play. And as you mentioned: Maybe he is even more likely to call. Thanks for the hint.
  • Shevtshenko


    1st hand (KQ):

    Poor handselection imo. That's a standard line vs. his small cbet. Dislike your turn betsize, since the only way you'll get stacks in vs. his draws (with that betsize) is when he decides to overbet (which he shouldn't do too often because he doesn't rep anything). Also if you for some reason bet the turn so small, you should definately be blockbet/calling on river to induce him to shove so you can win his whole stack instead of a smaller bet which is way more likely outcome when he decides to bluff his missed draws.

    2nd hand (TT):

    Again, very standard hand vs. callinstation. Disliked your betsizing, since he has more 8x in his preflop & flop calling range so you should get at least 40$ of value vs. that and he might even call that with 5x. Disagreed that it fits to a category of a "thin" valuebet.

    3rd hand (KQ):

    Don't see too many reasons to defend KQo vs. that villain. Obviously if there was some dynamic going on, there might be a reason to do so. Not too great of a reasoning for your turn bet either. Again, handselection doesn't seem too great.

    4th hand (AK):

    Disliked river betsizing but I'm not going to repeat what #11 already said.

    5th hand (AA):

    As a standard bet/fold, imo. Especially versus two opponents. Thought process solid and you propably do widen their flop-broke-range with the c/r. Without reads/aggro-/bluffy dynamic you are usually behind villains broke ranges even after c/r/c so overall rather close spot. Don't know what that hand had to do with the topic.

    6th hand (KQ):

    Nh. I never see villain having a better hand on the river with that betsizing. I mean, if he has something slowplayed from the flop (namely AK, QQ, JJ), he's just going to be betting a bit bigger on turn and shoving river. With that turn and especially river betsizing he basically always has AA/KK that knows there's not much value vs. your calling range.

    7th hand (AT):

    Depending on how good this reg is, I like your line. If he's thinking preflop that he can be flatting a wider range than normally, since the fish is very likely to call your isoraise and because of that it's likely that the pot will be multiway so he doesn't need as strong of a hand as in a heads up situation this is definately wp. Tbh he doesn't look that aware mainly due to his very tight stats.

    Witha a read that he's noticing that the fish is in the pot and thus flatting wider even from mp the postflop is well thought through. Obviously it helps to make the call when river is one of the best cards in the deck given his value range just narrowed by another two combos.

    Without the read that he is paying attention to table dynamics I'd like a c/f on turn better since he's propably not turning hands like 99/88 into bluffs and not even necessarily 55/44 that he might still be peeling on the flop. Since he's so tight don't know how many suited connectors he's flatting in these positions and also most of those beat you on turn already.

    Definately the last hand was the most interesting one. Kind of wished that you had explained more on what do you perceive his range to be preflop as well as postflop since it seemed that it was a biggish surprise to you that he showed KJs at showdown.