Flip the Flop - flop aggression without initiative

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In this video Somnius will dissect when flop aggression without initiative is justified and what factors to consider when applying it. The theory will be accompanied by some hand examples in disputable situations.


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  • Somnius


    Hi everyone!

    After watching the video again, there are indeed some questionable plays which may make our action range in those spots more linear. I think they will make for good discussion. Look forward to any comments or questions.

    Hope you enjoy :)
  • EpicFail86


    Interesting vid, I would definitly like to see more vids about this topic especially with further streets etc.
  • gadget51


    Welcome back sir! :-)
  • hrezdac


  • Porter1000


    Nice Vid. Keep `em comming ;)
  • Somnius


    Thank you for all the positive comments :)

    Happy to see you are enjoying the content and would be happy to continue this topic in subsequent videos.
  • SirTradeAlot


    excellent contribution. thank you very much.
  • Johnis


    I consider bluffing postflop without initiative as one of my weak spots. In my opinion, these are very interesting raise sizes. I would very often read this super small raise as a bluff and 3bet it a lot on various boards. Is the sizing a result of wider range?
  • Somnius


    Hi Johnis!

    Good question. In theory, I think raise sizing is more testimony to the % of bluffs. The greater the concentration of bluffs in your raising range the bigger the raise size should be as your opponent needs to fold more to stay balanced in theory.

    Most of the boards in this video are rather dry and generally not being raised very often. As such your raising range will likely be rather small in theory, and if the value:bluff ratio is constructed accordingly, it's a fine raise size.

    As I mentioned in the video, in practice especially at small stakes, it's not very important to actually maintain the proper theoretical range construction. And so, being value heavy in your raises for example esp against opponents that fight back with a range that is too wide against small raises is terrific EV.
  • Johnis


    Thanks for the reply Somnius!
  • vone


    very interesting video cause before nearly every hand from ur examples was an call or fold hand for me^^ now i got definitly an idea when i should consider to change my planes :)
  • CryingAce


    Don´t ya think we have betta hands then for ex TT to rasie ? BDFD´s ,AnyBackdoors,Gutshots ,Buttompair with 5 outs,so when get called when we raise TT on Axx,which looks in first place very strange,but could be fine ..don´t forget on nl50 are most of them unbelöievers and CS! I´d like more pot. good bluffcards ,which gives me EQ ..and when we raise all this (besides value) isn`t it enough ? BTW TT on AXX most of the regs cbet low pockets we re ahead of and when we call this flop they think we have to often an ace to get us off,perhaps betta raise sth like 33-66
  • yabiraa


    trust me!!!
  • Bandka


    only bye in gold?
  • thorno51


    love it.
  • evaszunyi


    nagyon jó az oldal ! jók a versenyek
  • Espayque