AQs BTN Facing heavy action

If there are some table dynmics... say MP is isolating UTG couple a times in a row then you can level yourself that CO is trying to apply pressure on MP's weak isolating range and profitably 4bet. You need both to be quite aggressive to consider it. You need FE. You should fold if someone shove

AQs is standard 4bet bluff in this spot. As for sizing - why do you think you should go for 4x? You can go for ~6$ and it will still generate a lot of fold equity. MP for example should fold QQ.

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu
AQs is standard 4bet bluff in this spot. As for sizing - why do you think you should go for 4x? You can go for ~6$ and it will still generate a lot of fold equity. MP for example should fold QQ.

Agree with this. 4-bet to $6-$6,50. Also try to play full-stacked. I know why you're doing this, but I don't think it's good.

Isn't this a good spot to call?
You are in position, AQs plays well multiway, there's the possibility of CO's 3bet being light.
I don't know, though. Not really familiar with this spot.

Originally posted by LookAwayNow

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu
AQs is standard 4bet bluff in this spot. As for sizing - why do you think you should go for 4x? You can go for ~6$ and it will still generate a lot of fold equity. MP for example should fold QQ.

Agree with this. 4-bet to $6-$6,50. Also try to play full-stacked. I know why you're doing this, but I don't think it's good.

 Why 4x? — Habit mainly. I think that the smaller sizing $6 - $6.50 leads to too many family pots where you end up throwing away your hand (and money) on a bad flop.
 Full-stacked OK, I'll play with auto-top-up on for a while. I've only been doing this for a year or so in NL flop games. It makes no difference at PL or FL games, and it does not have the "perceived weak player" advantage if all at the table are not topping up.
 Isn't this a good spot to call? As I played this, I figured "this is 4Bet or fold". I'm open to being wrong, but what tipped the scales is the idea that if MP's iso-raise was weakish, and COs was exploiting that weakness, I could perhaps take the pot here.

Outcome: Since my default cold 4Bet sizing was 4x which left me "pot committed"[1] I decided to shove, and got 3 folds. Had I bet the 4x I would not have folded to a shove, and had I 4Bet the suggested $6 - $6.50 I would have considered folding — bug clearly I didn't want to. Having just said that I realized I overplayed my hand a bit.

[1] I hate the "pot committed" idea — sometimes it may be OK to fold with half your stack in the middle, sometimes not.

Especially with a less than 100bb stack you don't want to make it 4x without much room to fold.
If that would be you're stand play I would early shove right away. Normally a $7 4bet is big enough in position.
I don't think you end up in a family pot after so much action.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Why 4x? — Habit mainly. I think that the smaller sizing $6 - $6.50 leads to too many family pots where you end up throwing away your hand (and money) on a bad flop.

You are not making cold 4bets with random shit. That is important because if they call loose your 4bets then they are printing you money by default. Sure, sometimes you will need to check/fold and leave quarter of your stack, but stackoff with AA is also not 100% certain win

Isn't this a good spot to call? As I played this, I figured "this is 4Bet or fold". I'm open to being wrong, but what tipped the scales is the idea that if MP's iso-raise was weakish, and COs was exploiting that weakness, I could perhaps take the pot here.

Good spot would be if you have whale 70/1 raises to 3bb, reg iso to 9bb. Then you may consider to call and keep whale in pot. But not in your situation - if you call you will may get 4way pot with 3 regs and your range will be readable for them easily. Also I dont see anything 'weakish' in isolating to 4bb. Why do you assume with AA he should go for 10 or more?

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu
Good spot would be if you have whale 70/1 raises to 3bb, reg iso to 9bb. Then you may consider to call and keep whale in pot. But not in your situation - if you call you will may get 4way pot with 3 regs and your range will be readable for them easily. Also I dont see anything 'weakish' in isolating to 4bb. Why do you assume with AA he should go for 10 or more?

Sadly, I had no stats at this point.

It's very close between 4betting and folding. I'd probably end up tank flatting by mistake. lol

cold 4 bet, you block Aces, Ak, Queens. 4bet 2.2x to $6.10 $6.25. If CO jams the only hand you don't block that you have issues with is KK but you also have 3 outs. If he has AA, AK so be it. he goes from 22 combos_(aces and AK) if you aren't holding an Ace down to 15 combos if my math is right. Could he jam JJ? then you are 60/40. with a bucket of dead money in pot.