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Originally posted by Grailer
Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
Originally posted by alejandrosh
Originally posted by randomdonk
why dont u ban this guy already? wasnt funny the first time, and is definitely not funny nowthis forum really needs an ignore list
+1
Last time I voted freedom of speech and the right to express an idea was still allowed .
Freedom of choice is allowed too , the choice not to click on the link where the thread was started by me .
that's exactly what a ignore list is. It lets the user choose which poster to not be able to read but keeps the troll's freedom of speech intact , it means no more "gtfo troll" posts so it's a win/win situation and everyone is happy.
How to work a table .
OK my beginner friends . Now using the PokerStrategy.com starting hand chart and info from tutorials etc , which is very useful you can start working a table ..
When i get to a table the first thing I do is spot the fish / maniacs / sharks / rocks and tag them if i havent already done so in the notes etc .
If I dont have the info on the players from poker trackker etc I get it from
http://www.pokertableratings.com
So at the table I spot a maniac yay hopefully I should get his money very shortly if someone else doesnt get it first .
PREPARED FOR: XXXXXXXX
SUBJECT GRADE PRE-FLOP TIGHTNESS: F
You are 305% looser than optimal.
OVERALL GRADE: F
The player is as bad as it gets . I tag him lightblue meaning loose aggressive or maniac .
He plays almost every hand ...
First hand against ...
I probably could have bet turn but with the player in position calling me I checked it down to take a small pot . Looks like I found another donkey on the table .
I limp with QQ which isnt recommended, Obviously I had to lay this hand down when Im caught in between the maniac and the raiser . Easy fold here , too many hands beat me .
The final hand I played on table before I cashed out , the maniac raised , quite big so I knew he had a fairly good hand , good enough that I can probably get him all in before flop if I wanted .
Originally posted by PushMeUp
No. Just no.
??? AK c bet call with draw , make draw on turn , check , let them improve ... value bet raise river because this player has fold equity .
STEALING MONEY -- HOW TO DO IT < AND HOW NOT TO DO IT.
I try and steal blinds with 44 which is pretty weak but has some potential , if someone calls I might bet flop if they check it or since players are smart about c bets these days and check to raise my c bet I might check the flop to see if I hit 4 on turn and bet turn if they check regardless of the turn card.
What this guy does is move all in with A7 to steal 8 cents .. $2 to win 8 cents ... guess what happens ... this is how not to steal from a stealer.
$0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]SB$1.92:///////;BB$3.58:///////;UTG2$1.38:///////;MP1$2.93:///////;MP2$2.18:///////;MP3$1.12:///////;CO (Hero)$2.00:///////;BU$0.59:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is CO with 4:d, 4:c.
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, BU folds, SB raises to $1.92, BB calls $1.90, Hero folds.
Flop: ($3.92) Q:s, 3:d, J:d (2 players)
Turn: ($3.92) 9:c (2 players)
River: ($3.92) 7:h (2 players)
Final Pot: $3.92.
Results follow:
BB shows a pair of aces(A:d A:c).
SB shows a pair of sevens(7:d A:h).
BB wins with a pair of aces(A:d A:c).
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In this hand it appears that everyone just wants to see a cheap flop , so I raise up about the size of the pot . One player calls , I intend to bet the flop no matter what comes .. I flop a gut shot str8 and a backdoor flush draw , I guess im semi bluffing now ♠_biggrin:
I mean seriously K7 offsuit is trash , its how I played that won , I didnt go crazy and move all in , I made it look like I had a hand.
$0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]MP1$5.18:///////;MP2$1.58:///////;MP3$2.93:///////;CO$2.14:///////;BU$2.12:///////;SB$0.82:///////;BB (Hero)$2.00:///////;UTG2$0.68:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7:s, K:c.
UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 calls $0.02, MP3 calls $0.02, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.10.
Flop: ($0.29) J:c, 8:d, 9:c (2 players)
Hero bets $0.21, MP3 folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.
Final Pot: $0.29.
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Again , a tight player limps in , I know if he has AA AK KK etc he will raise , he always does , so I know he has a small pair in the pocket or suited connectors and wants to see a cheap flop , I make him pay and then I steal his money with suited trash. If he plays back at me , obviously I fold. I show him the bluff too , then when I do get a legit hand he will play back at me ... then I take all his money.
$0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
Known players:
[tg]CO$2.17:///////;BU$1.96:///////;SB$2.46:///////;BB$0.31:///////;MP1$2.34:///////;MP2$1.58:///////;MP3 (Hero)$2.00:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 5:s, Q:s.
MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, 4 folds, MP2 calls $0.06.
Flop: ($0.19) 9:c, 9:d, 4:d (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.14, MP2 folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.
Final Pot: $0.19.
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The thing about stealing is to not do it too often , if you havent been getting good hands for a while RAISE and represent a big hand. Just don't commit too much money to a steal like our friend with A7 
gluck
HOW TO MINE SETS -- and make lots of money .
Ok these hands are from one session .. ill explain them as we go.
First hand , I raise standard with 10 10 in this position. Villian re raises 10bb . Im getting about 3.5 to 1 , he has big stack so im getting good odds to call .
KEY NOTE : The villian is showing alot of aggression , this means he is more likely to give me all his money.
I should hit a set about 1 in 7.5 times on the flop. So I quickly do the math this way 40cents to call 40x 7.5 is 300 or $3.. he has more than $3 in his stack so I call to see flop. I hit , I check he c bets I take his money.
VILLIAN incorrectly re raised me with JJ , this is why he lost all his money. Had he just called he couldve had more fold equity after he semi bluffed the flop with his Open ended draw.
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Known players:
[tg]MP3$5.00:///////;CO (Hero)$5.04:///////;BU$5.32:///////;SB$6.80:///////;BB$7.43:///////;UTG1$3.29:///////;UTG2$1.94:///////;MP1$5.83:///////;MP2$1.88:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is CO with T:s, T:c.
UTG1 calls $0.04, UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.04, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, BU calls $0.16, SB raises to $0.56, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.40, BU calls $0.40.
Flop: ($1.8) K:d, T:d, Q:s (3 players)
SB bets $1.28, Hero raises to $4.48, BU folds, SB calls $3.20.
Turn: ($10.76) 7:d (2 players)
River: ($10.76) 8:c (2 players)
Final Pot: $10.76.
Results follow:
Hero shows three of a kind, tens(T:s T:c).
SB shows a pair of jacks(J:h J:c).
Hero wins with three of a kind, tens(T:s T:c).
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This guy played quite well except he couldnt get away from his hand on turn after I hit my set. I called the small c bet on flop, usually because if he has AK he might check turn which he did with KK ( tricky ♠_cool: ) however I decide to make him pay alot to see my set. River was dangerous , he might have had KQ/JJ but u just got to be brave and fire at it.
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]MP3$5.00:///////;CO (Hero)$10.81:///////;BU$5.33:///////;SB$7.87:///////;BB$3.90:///////;UTG2$2.94:///////;MP1$2.79:///////;MP2$5.35:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is CO with T:h, T:d.
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, BU folds, SB raises to $0.36, BB folds, Hero calls $0.24.
Flop: ($0.76) 6:c, 5:d, 9:h (2 players)
SB bets $0.36, Hero calls $0.36.
Turn: ($1.48) T:s (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.05, SB calls $1.05.
River: ($3.58) J:d (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.41, SB calls $3.41.
Final Pot: $10.4.
Results follow:
Hero shows three of a kind, tens(T:h T:d).
SB shows a pair of kings(K:s K:c).
Hero wins with three of a kind, tens(T:h T:d).
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I raise 1 bb light with JJ , I get re raised another 7 bb .. He is short stacked , is it worth me calling to get set here ... well he has 60bb left. 7bb to call with 1 in 7.5 to hit flop .. . 7.5 x 7bb = 52.5 bb , not much of a profit to be made ( hence the power of being short stacked ) If only he raised a bit more 
ok I hit set , he makes a crazy sized c-bet and traps himself with 16% chance to win ♠_love:
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Known players:
[tg]UTG1$5.00:///////;UTG2 (Hero)$15.51:///////;MP1$2.00:///////;MP2$5.43:///////;MP3$2.69:///////;CO$3.84:///////;BU$2.82:///////;SB$2.83:///////;BB$5.35:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with J:d, J:s.
UTG1 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 5 folds, SB raises to $0.40, BB folds, Hero calls $0.28.
Flop: ($0.84) K:d, J:c, 4:h (2 players)
SB bets $0.80, Hero raises to $15.11, SB calls $1.63.
Turn: ($18.38) 7:s (2 players)
River: ($18.38) A:d (2 players)
Final Pot: $18.38.
Results follow:
Hero shows three of a kind, jacks(J:d J:s).
SB shows a pair of aces(A:h Q:h).
Hero wins with three of a kind, jacks(J:d J:s).
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conclusion :
So as you can see even tho the chance of hitting set is low , the rewards can be great if you are up against aggressive players who can't lay it down.
Originally posted by opal99
Hope you dont mind I used your advice in my singature.
Sharing your wisdom...
I laughed at this, then read your signature, then laughed again.
So much testosterone flying around!
I actually quite like the way you play grailer, as a tournament player myself I think your strategy would be suicidal long term but for cash games it works just fine.
As someone once said, you should play tournys to win blinds and cash to win stacks.
I suspect that the dubious raises and calls with trash are intended to get opponents to stack off light when you have a real hand and if you happen to win the dubious ones as well through pure aggression or good luck, then bonus.
We cant all play the same ABC poker or the money would just go round in circles with no winners.
It takes a certain attitude and a faith in your own ability to play this style but it can clearly work if you have balls.
I would like to see you playing at a higher level as I reckon ou would have even more success against the regular grinders, keep us informed.
-- DECEPTION --
Raising with hands that are drawing hands hides the strength of your hand .. It works much better when you don't do it often and have a really tight image
On this table Im 3% preflop raise on poker tracker , Obviously I have to have a monster hand here right ?
The villian calls with 75 suited and flops 2 pair , bad situation for me 
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]UTG2$4.63:///////;MP1$2.71:///////;MP2$8.05:///////;MP3$6.28:///////;CO$7.75:///////;BU$4.71:///////;SB (Hero)$5.00:///////;BB$2.20:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is SB with ??, ??.
UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.04, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.04, BU calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.24, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.20, 3 folds.
Flop: ($0.64) 9:h, 7:c, 5:s (2 players)
Hero raises to $4.76, MP1 calls $2.47.
Turn: ($7.87) 2:c (2 players)
River: ($7.87) 3:c (2 players)
Final Pot: $7.87.
Results follow:
Hero shows two pairs, nines and sevens(7s 9s).
MP1 shows two pairs, sevens and fives(7d 5d).
Hero wins with two pairs, nines and sevens(7s 9s).
MAKING MOVES ON POTS
If the player raises in late position you can exploit that weakness like this ... remember this is very risky and only works a few times so becareful
Always show the bluff ... especially if u win with 72 , making people tilt is always profitable.
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
Known players:
[tg]BB$1.79:///////;MP1$5.02:///////;MP2$5.18:///////;MP3$4.31:///////;CO$5.00:///////;BU$6.01:///////;SB (Hero)$5.00:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7:s, 2:s.
3 folds, CO raises to $0.16, BU folds, Hero raises to $0.56, 2 folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.
Final Pot: $0.2.
Here is a different move .. I call a late position raise with powerful drawing hand , now I know the late position raiser could easily have a big range of hands ace high small pair etc so when I hit the flop with bottom pair I bet my 5 outer . The raisers doesnt have a king and folds .
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]CO$1.73:///////;BU$4.94:///////;SB$5.14:///////;BB$1.80:///////;UTG2$4.31:///////;MP1$5.41:///////;MP2$6.07:///////;MP3 (Hero)$5.20:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 5:c, 6:c.
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, Hero calls $0.04, CO folds, BU raises to $0.16, SB calls $0.14, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.12.
Flop: ($0.56) K:c, Q:d, 5:s (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.12, BU folds, SB folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.
Final Pot: $0.56.
so now im sitting on table with 15bb from making pure moves with weak hands . Now im on a free roll to play some small pockets to set mine.
NOW HERE IS THE ULIMATE SECRET TO WINNING AT POKER THAT ALL THE PROS KNOW
-- The Gap Concept --
1. If you can't raise fold
2. Everytime someone raises your hand must be better in order to call
This means if you saw flop cheap and hit a flush draw , and the villian bets the flop , you must have better than correct odds to call , in other words you would beable to raise instead of calling if you choose to .
Otherwise you would only be making a break even call which isnt profitable poker.
The only bad thing about this is that you can get bluffed easier, but if you accept that bluffing is part of the game then it should be no problem.
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OK Lets put the concept in action...
I get AK and Im in first position , this is a raising hand in this position according to basic Starting Hand Chart so I raise .. Nothing to say I can't raise 23 in this position either but its a tough spot to play that hand and win.
If someone re raises me , do I re raise them ? Well Im on a draw I have 6 outs unless they have AA or KK then Im in bad shape, This depends on the size of there stack etc I can either call or raise since Im on a draw there is no incorrect action but folding is incorrect unless they moved all in , in which folding AK is correct since its a drawing hand.
I missed flop , should I semi bluff ? I decide not to semi bluff a 3 way pot however Im still on a draw so I could raise here thus beting here is not wrong. If I had bet , the villian might have check raised me so I would probably fold since I can't raise him.
So say he called my semi bluff, apply the concept to the villian.. why did he call? He probably called because he can raise me so he is either on a draw or he has me beat.
On river I hit my ace the villian bets. I should raise right but I feel I can't raise a raiser with just one pair and didnt thus I should have fold if I cant raise. I pay him off and prove the gap concept is right once more.
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Known players:
[tg]UTG2$6.88:///////;MP1$4.96:///////;MP2$3.99:///////;MP3$2.97:///////;CO$5.00:///////;BU$5.58:///////;SB$4.96:///////;BB$6.19:///////;UTG1 (Hero)$5.00:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with A:s, K:c.
Hero raises to $0.16, 4 folds, CO calls $0.16, BU folds, SB calls $0.14, BB folds.
Flop: ($0.52) T:s, 6:h, 3:c (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.
Turn: ($0.52) 3:h (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.
River: ($0.52) A:d (3 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, CO folds.
Final Pot: $1.52.
Results follow:
SB shows a full-house, tens full of threes(T:h T:d).
Hero shows two pairs, aces and threes(A:s K:c).
SB wins with a full-house, tens full of threes(T:h T:d).
I just played 2 hands applying the concept .
Everyone limps in I hit top pair , Im first to act , can I raise ? Yes I have a fairly good kicker . I bet and someone calls . Turn card comes , nothing has changed I bet again , he folds.
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Known players:
[tg]BB (Hero)$5.00:///////;MP2$5.17:///////;MP3$1.85:///////;CO$2.00:///////;BU$5.65:///////;SB$5.54:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is BB with K:c, J:c.
CO posts deadblind, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.04, CO checks, 2 folds, Hero checks.
Flop: ($0.14) 9:d, 7:s, J:h (3 players)
Hero bets $0.10, MP3 calls $0.10, CO folds.
Turn: ($0.34) 6:c (2 players)
Hero bets $0.16, MP3 folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.
Final Pot: $0.34.
2nd hand .. the villian limps in again , I decide my A2 is worth raising a little at least to find out if the villian has anything good and limp re raises in which I can apply the concept and fold . the villian just calls , I hit bottom pair, I raise , either I have best hand or im on a 5 outer . He calls with a draw, turn card comes there isnt really much I can beat after he called so I check it down , however to bet turn would not be bad it would just be very hard to call a bluff .. I win
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Known players:
[tg]SB (Hero)$5.17:///////;BB$5.01:///////;MP3$0.70:///////;CO$3.18:///////;BU$5.36:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is SB with A:h, 2:h.
MP3 calls $0.04, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, BB folds, MP3 calls $0.08.
Flop: ($0.28) K:s, 2:c, J:d (2 players)
Hero bets $0.13, MP3 calls $0.13.
Turn: ($0.54) Q:d (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.
River: ($0.54) 8:s (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.
Final Pot: $0.54.
Results follow:
MP3 shows high card ace(6:d A:d).
Hero shows a pair of twos(A:h 2:h).
Hero wins with a pair of twos(A:h 2:h).
BEATING THE GOOD PLAYERS - EXPLOITING THE CONCEPT
Now you know the best players use the concept , so now you need to exploit the concept
I could raise in SB but I know if I raise I will probably just win blinds right. Applying the concept , if I can raise I can call . I just call.
I am first to act, I figure my hand is best and bet , the pro calls me because he has a 7 or a 4 or some draw or slow played a pair , on turn I hit my 2 outer .. I bet again with best hand ( Amazingly the pro doesnt raise me on turn hes good ) On river a bad card for me , if he has 4 i probably wont get much now , if he has a 7 I might get it all . I check the river .. he applys the concept and bets his f ull house .. I check raise .. HE CAN'T RAISE ME! SO HE HAS TO FOLD .. OOPS HE CALLED bad luck buddy .
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Known players:
[tg]BU$6.46:///////;SB (Hero)$5.00:///////;BB$7.67:///////;MP3$5.24:///////;CO$4.39:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:h, Q:d.
3 folds, Hero calls $0.02, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.08) 7:h, 4:c, 4:d (2 players)
Hero bets $0.06, BB calls $0.06.
Turn: ($0.2) Q:s (2 players)
Hero bets $0.09, BB calls $0.09.
River: ($0.38) 7:s (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.37, Hero raises to $1.48, BB calls $1.11.
Final Pot: $3.34.
Results follow:
Hero shows a full-house, queens full of sevens(Q:h Q:d).
BB shows a full-house, fours full of sevens(8:c 4:h).
Hero wins with a full-house, queens full of sevens(Q:h Q:d).
PLAYERS WHO TRY TO BLUFF ---
This is a tough hand to play , I hit 2 pair and Im pretty sure I probably have the best hand so I raise .. he raises me .. I raise him he call ... HE must have flush draw !
I bet turn and river he RAISES ??? Did he just make some sort of straight?
I could raise again because I have 2 pair and unless he sucked out on me or slow played a set I should still have best hand right ?
But then if he moves all in its going to be a really tough call .. so using the gap concept --- I can raise therefore I can CALL.
If I did decide to raise he will a) fold or do a b) maniac all in bluff . More likely he will take option a) else he wouldve taken this route earlier in the hand thus raising again would not have any value other than forcing him to lay it down.
$0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]CO$2.01:///////;BU$0.38:///////;SB$2.15:///////;BB (Hero)$2.15:///////;UTG2$0.40:///////;MP1$0.43:///////;MP2$1.37:///////;MP3$2.48:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is BB with T:d, 7:d.
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, 3 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks.
Flop: ($0.06) T:c, 7:c, 4:d (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.04, MP2 raises to $0.08, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.14, MP2 calls $0.06.
Turn: ($0.34) Q:d (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10.
River: ($0.54) 9:h (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, MP2 raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.30.
Final Pot: $1.34.
Results follow:
Hero shows two pairs, tens and sevens(T:d 7:d).
MP2 shows a pair of fours(4:c A:c).
Hero wins with two pairs, tens and sevens(T:d 7:d).
This hand here .. interesting ..
I hit top pair with good kicker, the villian bets I should raise here since I have top pair, the villian would probably raise again then I would be forced o consider laying it down. On turn he bets again but a bit bigger which is a bit strange if he was on draw he might not bet so much , I put him on KQ or AK and fold , I ask him if he has KQ before I fold and he is nice enough to show me.
$0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]MP2$2.01:///////;MP3$0.38:///////;CO$2.13:///////;BU (Hero)$2.76:///////;SB$0.45:///////;BB$0.43:///////;UTG2$0.69:///////;MP1$2.46:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is BU with J:c, K:c.
UTG2 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.02, SB folds, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.09) 4:h, Q:h, K:s (4 players)
BB checks, UTG2 checks, MP1 bets $0.04, Hero calls $0.04, BB folds, UTG2 folds.
Turn: ($0.17) 8:s (2 players)
MP1 bets $0.10, Hero folds, MP1 gets uncalled bet back.
Final Pot: $0.17.
Using the Concept to Semi Bluff..
I flop a royal flush draw , im first to act , perfect position to semi bluff this hand .
I have pot odds to call any bet or even raise on both flop and turn , thus I bet and give myself good odds to draw out , he lays down his A8 on turn.
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:
$0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]BU$2.01:///////;SB$2.10:///////;BB$0.40:///////;UTG2$2.15:///////;MP1 (Hero)$2.00:///////;MP2$0.40:///////;MP3$0.45:///////;CO$2.59:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q:d, T:d.
UTG2 folds, Hero calls $0.02, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, 2 folds, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.09) K:d, 3:c, A:d (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.09, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.09, BB folds.
Turn: ($0.27) 7:s (2 players)
Hero bets $0.13, CO folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.
Final Pot: $0.27.
Applying the gap concept to muliway pots
In this example you can see that Im trying to make a move and lure a donk into my trap . I have played almost 100 hands and this table is tighter than fortknox .
I get a really good hand , its bottom of my range but in a great position to lure a donk into a trap so I have to raise since my PFR% = 3 in 100 hands .. I been card dead for an hour basically .
Unfortunately I get 2 players who call with lets just assume a range of JJ to 22 else they wouldve raised because they are using the SHC and dont realise Im exploiting a weakness in their strategy .
I hit the flop and well its not a great flop but 5 outs is good enough for me to semi bluff .. Im about 4:1 to improve to 2 pair or trips .
Ok the donk with 10 10 makes a weak play and overbets the pot with just a pair with 3 players in the pot ... the other player check calls 2 raises .. I can't call even tho I wouldve sucked out the 5 outer as you can see and come 2nd place.
I knew that the player calling the donk had a monster hand because if he can check call a raise and re raise then he must have been able to raise , thus he is either on a monster draw which is unlikely given the rainbow board or he has hit a set or 2 pair and is slow playing it. given the hand range I put him on , he has to have a set
I decide im probably almost drawing dead and fold .
The donk donates the rest of his stack because he doesnt apply the concept.
Even tho the donk could raise because I had 34 , he does not know this , since I should have a hand like AA AK KK QQ JJ TT his hand is bottom of this range and he can only beat AK therefore why raise and invest more money in a pot where you can only beat 1 hand and draw another?
Calling or folding was his only wise choice given the bad situation he is in. Then after the SB check calls 2 raises he has to know hes in serious trouble especialy on turn when he gets check raised all in .
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]UTG2$2.79:///////;MP1$6.01:///////;MP2 (Hero)$5.06:///////;MP3$5.12:///////;CO$5.90:///////;BU$4.08:///////;SB$4.83:///////;BB$1.75:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3:d, 4:d.
UTG2 calls $0.04, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, BU calls $0.16, SB calls $0.14, 2 folds.
Flop: ($0.56) 8:h, 4:c, 2:d (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.27, BU raises to $1.01, SB calls $1.01, Hero folds.
Turn: ($2.85) 7:h (2 players)
SB checks, BU bets $2.03, SB raises to $3.66, BU calls $0.88.
River: ($9.42) 3:s (2 players)
Final Pot: $9.42.
Results follow:
SB shows three of a kind, twos(2:h 2:s).
BU shows a pair of tens(T:s T:d).
SB wins with three of a kind, twos(2:h 2:s).
I guess what im trying to say is this --->
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]MP3$5.00:///////;CO (Hero)$10.81:///////;BU$5.33:///////;SB$7.87:///////;BB$3.90:///////;UTG2$2.94:///////;MP1$2.79:///////;MP2$5.35:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is CO with T:h, T:d.
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, BU folds, SB raises to $0.36, BB folds, Hero calls $0.24.
Flop: ($0.76) 6:c, 5:d, 9:h (2 players)
SB bets $0.36, Hero calls $0.36.
Turn: ($1.48) T:s (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.05, SB calls $1.05.
River: ($3.58) J:d (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.41, SB calls $3.41.
Final Pot: $10.4.
Results follow:
Hero shows three of a kind, tens(T:h T:d).
SB shows a pair of kings(K:s K:c).
Hero wins with three of a kind, tens(T:h T:d).
Now that you have a little idea on how the gap concept works , feel free to apply it to this hand and ask yourself , should the player with KK fold or raise after he gets check raised ?
Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:
$0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Known players:
[tg]MP2 (Hero)$13.76:///////;MP3$5.00:///////;CO$5.52:///////;BU$8.32:///////;SB$4.44:///////;BB$1.69:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A:h, 3:h.
Hero raises to $0.08, MP3 raises to $0.24, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.16.
Flop: ($0.54) 2:d, 3:c, 3:d (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.48, Hero raises to $1.47, MP3 raises to $4.76, Hero calls $3.29.
Turn: ($10.06) Q:c (2 players)
River: ($10.06) T:d (2 players)
Final Pot: $10.06.
Results follow:
Hero shows three of a kind, threes(A:h 3:h).
MP3 shows two pairs, kings and threes(K:h K:d).
Hero wins with three of a kind, threes(A:h 3:h).
