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    • Jim4rdo
      Jim4rdo
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      Joined: 03.10.2010 Posts: 1,252
      Hello delanonunes!

      Great to hear you've taken fizzy's advice and are joining up! This will do wonders for your poker game :) Don't worry about the WoT, it's nice to read and listen to someone's poker journey :)

      BRM is of course hugely important, and it's something you'll hear to no end - and you'll see many a thread of a player going broke, and unfortunately not getting much sympathy from some users here because they didn't follow proper BRM!

      BSS is an exciting and fun part of poker, but requires lots of dedication and effort, which by the sounds of it you have lots of!

      So good luck and have fun with your homework, Veriz is a great coach!

      Best regards,

      Jim
    • delanonunes
      delanonunes
      Silver
      Joined: 06.08.2011 Posts: 76
      Thanks Jim everyone seems really friendly on here i feel like the journey's going to be a good'un....
      was wondering though, what happens now? where do i find homework and what to study etc?
      cheers :)
    • delanonunes
      delanonunes
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    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Good job! Homework #1 Done!

      I'm happy for your son, now have some time to invest for him and not only for poker. :D But poker is definitely a great hobby which might even earn you some extra money.

      Most of the weakness you wrote can easily be fixed with you posting hands (analyzing your session). We will start writing feedback to your play. And usually negative feedback will put you into thinking phase and trying to fix all those leaks. It's almost the same as you loose money, you will remember it more than winning part.

      BRM is actually the ABC for poker. If you can't stick to that on lower stakes it will be hard for you to pass on higher stakes. :( You just will start playing too loose with it and will definitely loose money. Just force every time yourself playing according BRM and get used to it. Without it you will start just doing "gambling".

      Welcome to the Course and Best of luck! First points earned.
    • delanonunes
      delanonunes
      Silver
      Joined: 06.08.2011 Posts: 76
      hi Veriz, been having trouble trying to find second homework...found the "lounge" which led me to community group but cant find password to unlock forum stuff... :( can you help me please? thank you :)
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by delanonunes
      hi Veriz, been having trouble trying to find second homework...found the "lounge" which led me to community group but cant find password to unlock forum stuff... :( can you help me please? thank you :)
      The most easy way to find the Homework is to go to the Course Overview page, which is found in:

      Strategy -> No-Limit Big Stack Strategy -> NL Beginners Course - Overview

      Or this link: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/bss/1992/1/
    • delanonunes
      delanonunes
      Silver
      Joined: 06.08.2011 Posts: 76
      Question 1: What do you think you could play differently than how it is in the BSS Starting Hands Chart, and why?
      In my opinion, starting with the low pairs, i would sometimes open raise down to pocket 9's in early position and if in middle down to pocket 7's, other than that i get weary playing small pairs out of position, although sometimes if everyone is folding i might 3-bet a small pair and conti-bet on the flop no matter what cards come out and take it down there and then...saying that though, that could be a big leak because quite often someone will come over the top of me bluffing and i simply cant call because my pair is so low and way behind.
      Also the high suited aces, AQ AJ AT could be played a little harder OOP depending on the player type if everyone is folding and maybe the table is very tight, i'm currently trying to post a hand where i flat called AT suited got three callers, hit a flushdraw and when villain posted a potsize bet on the turn i re-raised a minimum and he insta-folded, i'm wondering if i had raised a little pre-flop would i have been increasing EV or should i not play these OOP at all??

      Question 2) NL($0.05/0.10) Flat calling ATs in early??


      Question 3: What is the equity of AKo against the top 5% range? 5% means: 88+, AJs+, KQs, AKo?
      According to equilab, it's 46.32 Is this right??
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Good job! Homework #2 Done!

      Playing PPs can be in long run actually be very profitable, we could even say that you earn the most money with them. You can always try out either you play them profitable or not by check the programs either you are doing great on early position with PPs or not and base according to that.

      Well, about AT-AQ suited hands I'd say that they are very good to play. Especially in multiway pots. With the draws you can get and always nut-flush will bring you good money if you hit one and they are able to hit lower flushes. They are rather hard to play OOP since it's hard to extract value and at the same time play stabs on the opponents. But obviously they are possible to play profitable. You just have to have better postflop skills.

      Q #3 seems to be correct. :)

      Hopefully you enjoy the School so far. Some more points earned.
    • delanonunes
      delanonunes
      Silver
      Joined: 06.08.2011 Posts: 76
      Question 1: You are holding KsQs. What is your preflop equity against an opponent who has 3d3c ? How does the equity change on this flop: Js5d3s?

      Answer: According to Equilab, my pre-flop equity would be 50.78%, however quite to my surprise, against trip 3's on a drawing board the equity goes down to 26.46%....i really am quite shocked, goes to show where i am making some terrible mistakes, i thought the equity would be much higher...amazing software this equilab...Thank you Pokerstrategy :D

      Question 2: What would you do in the following hand?
      No Limit hold'em $2 (9-handed)

      Players and stacks:
      UTG: $2.00
      UTG+1: $2.08
      MP1: $1.92
      MP2: $1.00
      MP3: $3.06
      CO: (Hero) $2.08
      BU: $2.00
      SB: $2.00
      BB: $1.24

      Preflop: Hero is CO with AcJc
      5 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, BU calls $0.08, SB folds, BB calls $0.06.

      Flop: ($0.25) 2c 6d 3d (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks, BU checks.

      Turn: ($0.25) 5 (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.22, BU raises to $0.44, BB folds, Hero...?

      Answer: At first glance, it looks like i've got 12 outs 9 for the flushdraw and three 4's for a straight (have discounted the 4 of clubs)...but looking more closely the opponent could hold a 7 and have the better end of the straight. Therefore i only really have 9 outs so i need 4:1 pot odds or more to make a call...the pot is now (0.25+ 0.22 +0.44) = 0.91 and i need 0.22 to make the call, so dividing the pot by the 0.22 i get: 4.136:1 which is pretty close so i guess i could call because the pot odds are greater than our odds and if i were to take into account the implied odds i would most likely call also...

      Question 3:

      NL(0.03/0.05)...can't believe i'm so stupid : (

      definately need help with this one : )
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Good job! Homework #3 Done!

      About Question #3:
      There are few situations on turn:
      a) If we take just odds for the FD and we take into account that all our odds are clean. There which means:
      Total Pot = $0,91 ; We have to Call = $0,22 -> According to that it means we are getting ~4,16:1 odds. For flushdraw we would need 4:1. Which tells us that we are getting perfect odds.
      b) If we consider the opponent having sets here:
      Which means we have to discount outs, for example 6 and also 3. Which means we have 7 clean outs. Which means that we need 6:1 odds. That tells us that we need ~$0,41 on river to make it profitable. If we expect the opponent being loose enough and being able to pay us no-matter what then we can do the Call here properly.
      c) We might even have overcards as outs or even 4 as a out:
      Although this kind of situation ain't that likely. I'd rather discount that one and either pick a) or b). Most likely towards Call.

      You are doing great progress! Some more points earned.
    • delanonunes
      delanonunes
      Silver
      Joined: 06.08.2011 Posts: 76
      Question 1) (NL 0.03/0.05) had the initiative-homework 4


      Question 2) NL10 SH - TPGK on paired flop


      Question 3)You are on the flop with KsQd. The board cards are Js, 9c, 8h, and your opponent holds 7c7h. What is your equity in this spot? 41.41%

      hope your well Veriz :D
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Good job! Homework #4 Done!

      This weeks homework was a bit easier. But the idea of that is to help you go through last weeks stuff if you didn't go through everything. Or either way maybe even read some more articles, watch some videos and of course attend in the coaching. What will also help for your game is the evaluation part of other members hands and of course posting your own hands.

      If you have interests you could try calculating the equity with a formula which you can use even on tables(either playing online or live poker):
      (Amount of outs x 4) – (Amount of outs – 8) = Your Equity

      About Question #3:

      Board: J:spade: 9:club: 8:heart:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    41.41%  41.41%   0.00% { KsQd }
      UTG+1  58.59%  58.59%   0.00% { 7h7c }

      Hopefully this wasn't too easy homework for you. Some more points earned.
    • delanonunes
      delanonunes
      Silver
      Joined: 06.08.2011 Posts: 76
      Question 1). (NL 0.03/0.05) playing with stats...

      Question 2). NL 5 could have bet all pot ?

      Question 3). Consider the following situation:



      $10 NL Hold'em (7 handed)

      Stacks & Stats:
      UTG ($10)
      MP ($8)
      MP2 ($9)
      CO ($10)
      Hero($10)
      SB ($10) (17/13/2.6/24/1212) [VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]
      BB ($10) (27/9/2.0/29/333) [VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 6d , 7d
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.40

      Flop: ($1.20) 3d , 3h , Td (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($1.20) Jd (3 players)
      SB bets $1.00, BB calls $1.00, Hero...

      What action would you take, and why?

      Answer: Although i've made my flush here, i'd not be overly confident someone wasn't sat with a higher diamond which is quite likely with the SB's range being slightly tighter than the BB, furthermore the BB's range is so wide I would definately protect my hand and bet the size of the pot (another $3.20), i would feel compelled to take away the opponents odds of making their draw and give them only 2:1

      Question 4). Consider the following situation:

      $10 NL Hold'em (8 handed)

      Stacks & Stats
      UTG ($8)
      MP ($10)
      MP2 ($9)
      MP3 ($6)
      Hero ($10)
      BU ($10) (25/21/3.8/26/1250) [VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]
      SB ($10)
      BB ($10)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Jh , Js
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BU 3-bets to $1.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.30

      Flop: ($2.75) 6h , 9s , Tc (2 players)
      Hero...

      What action would you take, and why?

      Answer: For this one, i could be in a difficult situation, the Buttons range definately covers the connectors neccesary for their draw, they may have already flopped the str8 or even a set, with such a wet board and just an overpair i dont want to inflate the pot too much so would probably just "check" and because the Button is showing aggression he will probably C-bet anyway, depending on what the turn was would depend on wether i raise or fold afterwards.....or alternatively i would bet 2/3 of the pot and if the action got too heavy by the river i would re-examine the situation and maybe Bet/Fold.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Good Job! Homework #5 Done!

      About Task #3
      It's a very close decision: does protection or pot control weigh heavier here? Do you want to protect against hands like 3x or A:dx and K:dx? Or do you want to control the pot size and try to induce a bluff on the river in case there is no T, no J and no additional ?

      Raise/fold is out of question - with the given pot size and the good made hand you have, it can't even be considered.

      In case you decide to go broke, you can't really be blamed either. It's not a sign of weakness that the rather tight small blind decides to bet into two people here, though. I would say a call is to be slightly favored, while the many outs against you are annoying. The big blind who calls rather loosely speaks in favor of a raise/broke again. Both options are finally considered equal, which shows - all things considered - how close and full of variance these spots really are.

      About Task #4
      You've called pre-flop and then hit a good board. You basically have two choices now: either you assume that your opponent will go broke loosely or puts you on a bluff often and you thus check/raise - or you play check/call in the spirit of way ahead / way behind. The problem with the latter is that there are a lot of cards you don't want to see in the later course of the hand. All in all, it depends on your balancing as both lines make sense under certain circumstances.

      A check/fold would be really pointless, of course. It's hard to say whether you should donk-bet here; donk/fold can be discarded as that would turn your hand into a pure bluff and your opponent would interpret this as weakness and start raising you out of flops with hands like AK/AQ/air. So, if you want to donk-bet, it has to be a donk/3-bet.

      Good luck on tables and with the School. Some more points earned.
    • delanonunes
      delanonunes
      Silver
      Joined: 06.08.2011 Posts: 76
      Question 1) . NL(0.03/0.05) Multiway pot limping

      Question 2). Nl10 Sh Jj

      Question 3).Consider the following situation:


      $25 NL Hold'em (10 handed)

      Stacks & Stats
      UTG ($25)
      UTG+1 ($25) rock
      UTG+2 ($25)
      MP1 ($25)
      MP2 ($25) LAG
      MP3 ($25) maniac
      CO ($25)
      Hero BU ($25)
      SB ($25)
      BB ($25) calling station

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Qh , Jh
      5 folds, MP3 raises $1.00, CO calls $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, 1 fold, BB calls $1.00

      Flop: ($4.10) 3h , Jc , Ad (4 players)
      BB checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($4.10) Qc (4 players)
      BB bets $2.05, 2 folds, Hero...?

      What action would you take, and why?

      For a start the "calling station" checking the flop and betting the turn out of position would set off bells in my head his range is big enough for AJ AQ A3 maybe even pocket 3's, this is precisely the kind of situation i tend to mess up so i definately wouldn't raise, the turn card brings even more draws into play so i would proceed with caution...
      The BBs weak half-pot bet makes the pot just that bit too small to go to war over so i guess i would just call and see what the next card had to offer and evaluate the situation again.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Good Job! Homework #6 Done!

      About Question #3:
      Two lines can quickly be discarded here: fold and raise/fold; your hand is simply too strong for those alternatives.

      It's hard to assess whether you should put in a raise here. When a rather passive player decides to bet into three players while being out of position, it does look strong. It's more likely an indication of a made hand than that of a draw.

      A raise naturally protects, but you run the risk of isolating yourself against very strong range. Which weaker hands could your opponent possibly continue playing here?

      The deciding factor finally comes in the size of the pot. This tiny pot simply isn't worth putting yourself into a tough spot where you could potentially end up risking your entire stack. A raise would be overplayed here and pot control takes the precedent over protection.

      Best of Luck on the tables and with the Course. Some more points earned.
    • delanonunes
      delanonunes
      Silver
      Joined: 06.08.2011 Posts: 76
      Question 1). Slowplaying draw Vs QQ (NL 0.05/0.10) 6 MAX

      Question 2). NL 10 Sh A7S on BU

      Question 3). Consider the following situation:

      $10 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

      Stacks & Stats:
      UTG ($10)
      MP ($10)
      CO ($10)
      BU($10)
      SB ($10)
      BB (Hero) ($10)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 5h , 4h
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.40, BU calls $0.40, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

      Flop: ($1.60) 3s , 2h , Qh (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, CO Raises All-in, BU calls All-in, SB folds, Hero...

      What action would you take, and why?

      The pot is: 1.60+1.20+9.60+9.60 = $22 therefore with $8.40 to call i get 2.61:1 which seems like a bit of a coin flip but i would probably call.

      Working it out with odds and outs i feel i wouldn't be making a mistake in calling, i got to 14 outs( 8 hearts, have discounted the 3 because QQ could make a fullhouse), 3 6's and 3 Aces, although it's quite likely someone might have a high Ace (AQ), but if i go with 14 using the equation EQUITY =(no. of out*4)-(no. of outs-8), then i get 56-6= 50%When i tried to input everything into the Equilab (putting the Co and Bu ranges in on the "action" tab; ie: CutOff- Caps the bet, Button calls, it came up with 50.05% yet if i added AQ to the CO's range my equity increased to 50.23%.

      feel a bit like i might of missed something somewhere, if so, i would greatly appreciate some guidance : )

      Question 4).Consider the following situation:

      $10 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

      Stacks & Stats:
      UTG ($10)
      MP ($10)
      CO (Hero) ($10)
      BU($10)
      SB ($10)
      BB ($10)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Ac , Ks
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BU calls $0.40, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.40

      Flop: ($1.60) As , 4c , 4d (4 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $1.20, Hero...

      What action would you take, and why?

      With quite a dry board and no draws worrying me, I quite like this spot for a "slowplay" even if my position isn't great, this could allow weaker Aces to come along for the ride and i could extract more value, i wouldn't mind a 3bet either to build the pot a little, it would depend on the reads i have of my opponent (stats or notes), if i 3bet then i intend to go all-in by the river, i'm not folding in this case....
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Good Job! Homework #7 Done!

      About Question #3:
      In this case, you decided to bet out yourself and two players behind you go all-in. You would have to invest $8.40 in order to participate in a $22 pot, which corresponds to an equity of 27.63%.

      Board: Q 3 2
      Dead:

      Equity Win DrawLoss Hand
      Player 1: 38.538% 38.538% 0.000% 61.462% 5h4h
      Player 2: 14.540% 14.540% 0.000% 85.460% QQ+
      Player 3: 46.921% 46.921% 0.000% 53.079% 22-33

      You get the required odds even when you're exclusively up against very strong hands!

      About Question #4:
      Top pair / top kicker has been and will always be a hand that's tough to play, especially in a multi-way pot. In this case, you've hit a nice flop, but you're up against 3 opponents on a dry board which doesn't allow for any dangerous draws.

      A fold on this board is, of course, too weak. You can't really hit much better and there might be worse Ax hands willing to pay you off.

      If you think that your opponent(s) is/are often willing to go broke on the flop with worse hands, raising might not be the worst of choices. But one thing is clear: if you raise, you have to go all-in on the flop! Raise/fold with your top pair is absolutely out of question.

      Even though this might leave a bitter aftertaste in a 4-way pot, you should play this like a way ahead / way behind spot here - by playing it passive, you will extract the maximum from weaker hands and bluffs while avoiding big losses against stronger hands.

      Best of Luck on the Tables. Some more points earned.
    • delanonunes
      delanonunes
      Silver
      Joined: 06.08.2011 Posts: 76
      Question 1). Top 2pair vs loose cannon

      Question 2). NL10 SH KJo

      Question 3).Consider the following situation:

      $100 NL Hold'em (9 handed)

      Stacks & Stats:
      UTG ($100)
      UTG+1 ($100)
      MP1 ($100)
      MP2 ($100)
      Hero ($100)
      CO ($100)
      BU ($100)
      SB ($100)
      BB ($100) (18/15/3.7/23/732)[VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 8h , 9h
      4 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 3 folds, BB calls $4.00

      Flop: ($8.50) 3h , 6h , 8d (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $5.50 BB calls $5.50

      Turn: ($19.50) Jh (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero...

      What action would you take, and why?

      I would definately not check behind for pot control as i really do not want to see another Heart on the board which would make my flush weak and un-playable, i would have to opt for a bet about 2/3 size of the pot for protection maybe $14.50

      Question 4). (optional question): Consider the following situation:

      $200 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

      Stacks & Stats:
      MP2 (Hero) ($327.95)
      MP3 ($207.45)
      CO ($415.55) (TAG)
      BU ($373.60) (TAG)
      SB ($200.00)
      BB ($218.00)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7h , 8h
      Hero raises to $7, 1 folds, CO raises to $23, BU calls $23, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $16

      Flop: ($72) 7c , 8s , 8d (3 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks, BU bets $52, Hero calls, CO calls

      Turn: ($228) Kd (3 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks, BU checks

      River: ($228) Qh (3 players)
      Hero bets $110, CO raises to $340.55 (All-in), BU folds, Hero?

      What factors and concepts that you have learned so far would you use in evaluating this situation? What would your action be?

      Well, for a start i certainly wouldn't of checked the flop, it would be highly likely that the "tight" CO or Button has a premium hand AA, KK, QQ,AK and i wouldn't want a King or Queen showing up, but that wasnt the question....
      And just like magic a King AND a Queen show up, the turn being checked seems to signal a bluff-induce play after i bet and he goes "all-in" i have to ask should i go broke if i'm not sure i have the best hand??

      There was a time i would instantly call, but now with stats of a tight player facing me i think i could be better off folding, i have lost many many times with an under-house and i wish i had the gall to fold them but it's a very very hard thing to do..... ; )
      Basically if i have stats with a large enough hand count that tell me he's a TAG i would proceed with caution. Not sure if in reality i would still be able to fold but i suppose with half my stack left i'm not commited and could wait for a better spot....

      Using the equation equity= risk/ potential profit+risk*100

      Equity= 230.55/ 678.55 + 230.55 *100 = 25.3% or

      Equity= 1/ 2.9 + 1 *100 = 25.6%

      therefore according to what i've learned i need a required equity of 25% with pot odds of 3:1 which i seem to be getting here approximately so a call might not be the worst....
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