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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010
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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
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You also get a better red line by being good at thin value betting. Sometimes they fold = red line, and sometimes they call with worse = blue line, or spazz out with worse = blue line. If I were you I'd consider turning off everything but the green line, or even better, not plotting graphs. I know it's hard for mathematicians, but it's for the best.


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MrMardyBum
Joined: 14.03.2009
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Psst, Mal... Want to borrow my redline? :f_p:

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I know you already have some help at hand, but if you fancy running a couple of sweat sessions, let me know as it seems we play almost opposite sides of the scale.


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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No graphs indeed, sacrilege sir, sacrilege! :f_eek: Oh I do like a good graph to, it'll be like giving up the fags! :f_cry: Oh wait, I did that...

Even when you're a fish and make a mess of things, people start queueing up to help. It doesn't get better than the people here. :f_love:

MrMardyBum sir, May I just say; "Wtf!" to your red line please!?

My green line fails dismally against your red, but I would be up for it yes. I did have others but they are rather busy a lot of the time.
Apparently they have, what're those things called again? - Oh ye, lives, that's the one, ye, lives; real away from here lives! That's just scary, like going outside and stuff and exercising! :f_eek:

So this week I'll be mostly;
not making graphs, no bluffing the unbluffable and getting at least one sweat session organised.

I'll be playing 19/16 before I turn round! _love:


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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009
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I'd be up for a sweat some time next week if you fancy as well sir


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Yes thazar that would be lovely, so whenever you like sir.

So, missed a few days here because I gotz owned innit and played a few short sessions to get back the old mojo, with some success I might add.

This is November graph, which is a compromise JB ok? :)

And my favourite; "I really do know what you got" hand:

guy is L/P reg so no point betting big on the turn.

BB: $38.84 (155.4 bb)
CO: $26.45 (105.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $26.66 (106.6 bb)
SB: $24.56 (98.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
CO folds, Hero raises to $0.62, SB calls $0.52, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.86) K A T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.93, SB calls $0.93, BB folds

Turn: ($3.72) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.86, SB calls $1.86

River: ($7.44) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.25, SB raises to $17.21, Hero raises to $23.25 and is all-in, SB calls $3.94

Results:

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$49.74 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: K A T 7 A
Hero showed A K and won $0.00 (-$24.56 net)
SB showed J Q and won $47.74 ($23.18 net)

_thumbsup:

Next month I wont need to be a rakeback whore. Honest.

Well obviously not me innit!

Have fun all.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
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You should feel flattered.

You scare them so much they have to bring out the Royals to beat you.

Have a great December!
--VS


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Seems I'm so nitty they need that to beat me at showdown! :f_love:

Couple of hands earlier I stacked off with a boat v top two and villain hit the river for a better one. Nice, me run goooood! :f_cry:

You have fun whatever you do. :)


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Had a sweat with Ras yesterday, he ran like mrsgadget but displayed quite an impressive portion of calmness in the field of fire. Maybe he borrowed some steel breast implants. :coolface:
I'm very pleased to say he's got a coaching with the awesome BSB as a Christmas prezzie, so that should help. Nice one Ras.

Those people offering up their valuable time to coach the little guys for free definitely deserve a mention. You guys are awesome.

Anyway, back to work:
Played 20 or so hands this morning before escorting mrsgadget to work. Here's the first hand I played.
Everybody still solid at nl25 then Mal? Ye, innit.

Hero (SB): $26.36 (105.4 bb)
BB: $9.50 (38 bb)
MP: $42.36 (169.4 bb)
CO: $19.49 (78 bb)
BTN: $142.64 (570.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T A
MP folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BB folds, CO calls $1

Flop: ($2.75) K Q J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.75, Hero raises to $8.25, CO raises to $18.24, Hero calls $9.99

Turn: ($39.23) T (2 players)
River: ($39.23) 9 (2 players)

Results:

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$39.23 pot ($1.96 rake)
Final Board: K Q J T 9
Hero showed T A and won $37.27 ($17.78 net)
CO showed 5 K and lost (-$19.49 net)

Faith in humanity restored, all is well again in gadgetworld. _evil:

In some not so good other news, mrsgadget's best friend is having a torrid time and is virtually destitute; so, we invited her to Christmas dinner and to stay for a few days. I'll donate a few dorrars for her to get some food, gas, electric, that kind of thing and mrsgadet's going to work extra hours on Sunday and give her that to help pay her rent etc.
It's just what you do innit. :(

In a happier vein, we are having our house refurbished in January by the local council in some sort of Euro-promo type thingy, to bring it up to some standard the bigwigs in Brussels have come up with I think. Woo hooo and rungood us!
So that'll be rads in all rooms and a combi-boiler, a new bathroom and power shower - tiled and floored of course! A new kitchen with tiles and flooring, new wiring and double glazed windows and doors; wall and loft insulation and a nice new electric fire and surround. Sorted. _cool:

Oh and BT are giving me fibre optic broadband for free as well. Apparently I'll get like 37MB download speed instead of my currently 3rd world 1.1. I've heard that kind of thing before. :pokerface:

Would I be too greedy if I could just win a free Christmas coaching...? :f_love:

Ok so todays dollop of weird wtf comes from our lovely Japanese commercial making friends. Just, funny.


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Lost loads of these 70% shots for ages a couple months ago. Getting raised on the turn is a dream. :f_love:

BB: $28.28 (113.1 bb)
MP: $29.51 (118 bb)
CO: $70.84 (283.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
SB: $43.58 (174.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
MP folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB calls $1.75, CO calls $1.25

Flop: ($6.10) J 5 3 (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($6.10) 8 (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $4.06, BB raises to $12, CO folds, Hero raises to $23 and is all-in, BB calls $11

River: ($52.10) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$52.10 pot ($2.60 rake)
Final Board: J 5 3 8 8
BB showed 9 T and lost (-$25 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$2 net)
Hero showed J J and won $49.50 ($24.50 net)

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This one is just for the Rastweet coz he says I'm a nit. I would agrue but...

This guy is a bit nittier than me even (Yes Ras, it's true they exist).

I just wonder in a 4bet pot OOP if KQ is ok versus a tight fish/reg, it just seems the old domination issues ocurr too often. Not that I can't fold anything of course, folding is my forte!

MP: $27.34 (109.4 bb)
CO: $38.55 (154.2 bb)
BTN: $23.65 (94.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $25.10 (100.4 bb)
BB: $28.72 (114.9 bb)
UTG: $27.97 (111.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q K
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2, Hero raises to $5.25, BB folds

Results:

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$4 pot
Hero mucked Q K and won $4 ($2 net)

So, only played 130 hands in that session. No volume whatsoever this month.


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RasTweet
Joined: 26.12.2009
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Still a nit though :coolface:

But tbh I don't like the 4b :facepalm: If he is even nittier then you his 3b from the BB has to be astronomical otherwise a 4b here is suicide. I also think you made it to big. I usually make it 18-19bb, that would be $4,5 - $4,75 for you.

You know the pool better then I do though so I might be horribly wrong

Ras


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011
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I do like the 4bet. Against a reg I wouldn't mind even just flatting KQ. But against a nittier guy I wouldn't mind including KQ in my 4bet bluffing range with blockers. Even nits can 3bet/fold!

But then again I'm not quite sure how nitty you are, so I don't know how nitty this guy is either. Whether or not it's a good 4bet depends on how much he 3bets I guess. In a vacuum I'd say it's good that you 4bet here, if only because it means you may be on the way to becoming less of a nit :rolleyes:

Do agree with Ras on the sizing though, definitely too big! $4.50-$4.75 sounds good indeed :)


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RasTweet
Joined: 26.12.2009
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Originally posted by TinoLaan
I do like the 4bet. Against a reg I wouldn't mind even just flatting KQ. But against a nittier guy I wouldn't mind including KQ in my 4bet bluffing range with blockers. Even nits can 3bet/fold!

But then again I'm not quite sure how nitty you are, so I don't know how nitty this guy is either. Whether or not it's a good 4bet depends on how much he 3bets I guess. In a vacuum I'd say it's good that you 4bet here, if only because it means you may be on the way to becoming less of a nit :rolleyes:

Do agree with Ras on the sizing though, definitely too big! $4.50-$4.75 sounds good indeed :)

I do agree Tino. I just assumed that a nittier player then Mal played 12/10 or something like that. And then I think it might be overkill. But thats what I think, good chance I'm wrong :f_biggrin:


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Ok fair enough, bet sizing a bit over the top then. I would add in my defence that I'm on my way to playing 19/16/3. if you don't mind!

But yes, this guy can 3bet/fold and limp/fold utg if that makes any sense. The problem with this player pool is getting them to fold IP, whether to 3bet or 4bet, a large proportion of regs flat. It makes it tougher than it needs to be on this site, so I tend to shy away from all that mallarky a bit. See? Nit.

Thanks for the input. :heart:


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RasTweet
Joined: 26.12.2009
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How do they play IP in a 3b pot? If you cbet 1/2 pot size they only need to fold 33% to auto profit. Maybe they like floating once and fold turn. They can't call all the time IP and call down post flop.


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Joined: 23.06.2008
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That may be true, but it sucks bigtime to be oop in a 3bet pot, I just never know with these guys where I'm at; they can be quite sticky and I know they rarely fold a pp.
But to cut the excuses out, I'm just crap oop in 3bet pot.


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Well I'm offline tomoz so I may as well post now.

Misclicked pre in this phaffing about with getting more tables up an' stuff innit. I had the courtesy to apologize at least, which got the blank it deserved. Meh. _evil:

UTG: $18.06 (72.2 bb)
MP: $65.70 (262.8 bb)
CO: $59.80 (239.2 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)
SB: $31.92 (127.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 3
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, BTN raises to $2.75, SB folds, Hero calls $2.50, MP calls $2, CO folds

Flop: ($9.10) 7 3 A (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3, BTN raises to $9, Hero calls $9, MP folds

Turn: ($30.10) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $13.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $13.25 and is all-in

River: ($56.60) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$56.60 pot ($2.83 rake)
Final Board: 7 3 A 7 J
BTN showed A K and lost (-$25 net)
Hero showed 3 3 and won $53.77 ($28.77 net)

I took down 3BI, mainly because I won every one of these:

BB: $10.44 (41.8 bb)
UTG: $25 (100 bb)
MP: $28.16 (112.6 bb)
CO: $74.43 (297.7 bb)
BTN: $43.36 (173.4 bb)
Hero (SB): $34.07 (136.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $10.44 and is all-in, Hero calls $9.69

Flop: ($20.88) K 4 T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($20.88) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($20.88) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$20.88 pot ($1.04 rake)
Final Board: K 4 T 7 A
BB showed 7 9 and lost (-$10.44 net)
Hero showed A Q and won $19.84 ($9.40 net)

Easy game.

Going to study a reg or two now.

Play well or run like RasTweet, either way have fun.


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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So having played about 3K hands this month, let's just say things are getting in the way of volume and leave it at that yes?
I am of course running at sillybb/100 which is nice to look at in reports. :heart:
I got rid of a load of stuff from my HUD yesterday after seeing RasTweet's advent calendar. Very pretty Ras.

The stats for some of these things take too long to converge and I'm confident I will be moving to nl50 by the summer, barring accidents and any of the other negative crap that interferes with these things. But my skill isn't great so I can wait a bit.

No FPS hands this time round.

In other news, mrsgadget managed to bite through her (really expensive) electric toothbrush I got her for Christmas, panicked and swallowed the damned brushy head bit. :facepalm:
Should save on loo paper in a day two I suppose.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
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OK, I see:
  The word "wax"
  A picture of a girl in a bikini
  the word "toothbrush"

Is this NSFW -- or am I safe here?
--VS


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Although some of his others may not be so, this one is safe.


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