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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

More PLO8
I've been playing a *lot* of this lately.

I play in two different rooms.
In one, multi-way raised pots are the norm, and the only way to play there is to join the throng, and bet heavily with the nuts.

The second is way tighter.

This came at the tight table...
When I saw the hand, I figured it is a low-only hand, but a solid one...

A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this hand
PokerStars Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players

SB: $18.19 (Hero)
BB: $8.84
UTG: $9.33
UTG+1: $14.08
CO: $48.48
Button: $10.03

Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 3♦ A♦ 2♥ 2♦ (6 players)
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 4♣ 6♦ 7♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.29, BB raises to $1.44, Hero calls $1.15
OK, I have the nut low, and villain looks like trips, a straight, or a chop, in which case I probably only get a quarter of the pot. I decide to keep it small, or rake just eats us both up.

Turn: ($3.48) 6♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.67, BB calls $1.67
Let's try to bluff that we have a full house, and perhaps take the pot here -- I have no expectation really of anything better than the Lo half of the pot.

River: ($6.82) 2♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $6.53, BB calls $5.43 and is all-in
Woot! Scoop!

Hero showed 3♦ A♦ 2♥ 2♦, and won ($16.93) with HI: a full house, Deuces full of Sixes; LO: 6,4,3,2,A
BB showed J♥ J♠ 5♣ 8♦, and lost with HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 8,6,5,4,2
Hero won $16.93
(Rake: $0.75)

It is amazing what can happen in this game!

All the best,
VS


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Anykey444
Joined: 05.02.2011

Hi, thanks for new post, it's always nice to read you. Do you plan to play MicroMillions?
I do and even one of 5CD. Let's meet at the final table :)


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VorpalF2F Topic starter
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Joined: 02.09.2010

I can only enter the $3.30 NL 5-Card Draw on the 26th, and the $3.30 NL 2-7 Single Draw on the 28th.
I'm travelling for the first week.
I might be able to play the $5.50 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw on July 21, but only if it can be played on a tablet.

My laptop runs Linux, and I don't think that PokerStars is available on Linux.
On July 28 there is a $5.50 PLO8 that looks tempting. I'm not too confident -- I'm running behind in PLO8 cash games.

I was hoping that there would be some 5-Card Draw or 2-7 satellites that I could warm up with, but there aren't any.
I asked support, and they could not say for sure if there would be.

Cheers,
VS


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Anykey444
Joined: 05.02.2011

There are about 10 5CD tourney everyday in $1.1-2.2 range. Can't you use them instead of sats to warm up ? And I am rather sure sats will be available but only like 24 hours before tourney.


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VorpalF2F Topic starter
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Good idea _drink:,
I took your advice...

PokerStars Tournament #1962401259, No Limit 5 Card Draw
Buy-In: $2.00/$0.20 USD
76 players
Total Prize Pool: $152.00 USD
Tournament started 2017/07/12 14:53:00 PT [2017/07/12 17:53:00 ET]

Dear VorpalF2F,

You finished the tournament in 8th place. A USD 6.42 award has been credited to your Stars Account.

Peace,
VS


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MicroMillions
I discovered that there are $0.65 Spingo games that pay 1.30 or a MM ticket.

I've been playing a *lot* of these, and have acquired two $3.30 tickets, and won a host of $1.30 payouts.

My ITM is 75%, so I'll keep playing until I get a %5.50 ticket, or my Net is enough to buy one.

See you there!
VS


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MicroMillions
I discovered that there are $0.65 Spingo games that pay 1.30 or a MM ticket.

I've been playing a *lot* of these, and have acquired two $3.30 tickets, and won a host of $1.30 payouts.

My ITM is 75%, so I'll keep playing until I get a $5.50 ticket, or my Net is enough to buy one.

See you there!
VS


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Anykey444
Joined: 05.02.2011

Great news, see you and let's meet on FT.

My problem is that now, when my favorite song is "When I'm sixty-four", 4 AM is too early for me, espesially as at 9 I suppose to be in the office, and 10 PM is too late as at 4 AM I fall asleep no metter what. That exactly happened at last SCOOP 5CD Low, when at 4 AM I went to bed being 20th, despite a lot of holdem (so weak at 5CD) players around. As you remember my seatout :) finished like 50-60th


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MicroMillions
Well, I never did get my $5.50 ticket, but when I got back from church today, MM-03 was already running, so I entered a 90 stars coin SNG satellite.
It took me too more tries to get the seat (only 1 seat awarded in the 6-max NLO8).

A few hands in I tripled up, and picked up a few more hands along the way.

NL Omaha is not my favourite game -- you have to be bold and aggressive, and I tend to let others do the aggro part and grab their cash by having better hands.
However, if you play uber tight for a while, you gain fold equity.

The problem with having a lot of fold equity, though, is that it is harder to get paid off when you do have the nutz.

Oh yeah -- the result: 1010/10536 runners for $6.01 (no bounties)

No more poker now for a week.

Best of luck to all,
VS


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pokerplayernumber1
Joined: 05.06.2010

Hi VorpalF2F,

Please which poker room is image above?
It seems like a skin of pokerheaven which I did like very much.
Is it a good room?

Thx
Gl


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Originally posted by pokerplayernumber1
Hi VorpalF2F,

Please which poker room is image above?
It seems like a skin of pokerheaven which I did like very much.
Is it a good room?

Thx
Gl

Hi pokerplayernumber1,
The image is from a poker site run by the government lottery commissions of British Columbia, Manitoba and Quebec.
Only if you are a resident of one of those provinces of Canada, can you play there.

The software shows itself as "Boss Media" judging by the folder created to hold the data.

I've never heard of PokerHeaven, so I couldn't say.

Thanks for stopping by my blog!
VS


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Definitely Boss Network. I remember playing at Poker Heaven through Boss.


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pokerplayernumber1
Joined: 05.06.2010

Hi,

Thx for informations, I would like to play at this software, but I'm not even from Canada, nor specific residence.

Gl :f_drink:


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VorpalF2F Topic starter
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These always make me laugh
17th of 28 with about 2/3 average stack here.
Both of these cards are obvious folds, since in Hand A you can draw to a straight, and Hand B draws to a flush. Hand B is worse, because only an 8 or a 2 yields a decent hand gives a playable low at all.

But....
Hand A
This converter is going to be a cash cow...
PokerStars No Limit Single Draw ($1.00+$1.00) t50/t100 ante t25 - 6 players

UTG: t1,244
UTG+1: t2,767
CO: t11,256
Button: t14,828
SB: t6,323 (Hero)
BB: t6,741

Dealing Hands: (t300) 7♣ T♦ 4♠ 8♠ 5♦ (6 players)
UTG calls t100, 2 folds, Button raises to t250, Hero calls t200, BB calls t150, UTG calls t150

First Draw: (t1,150) (4 players)
Hero discards 1, BB discards 1, UTG discards 1, Button discards 1,
7♣ 4♠ 8♠ 5♦ || 6♣
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Button bets t969, Hero folds, 2 folds

Button collected t1150

Hand B
Feral Cow Poker Hand Converter
PokerStars No Limit Single Draw ($1.00+$1.00) t60/t120 ante t30 - 6 players

Button: t3,295
SB: t1,519
BB: t16,546
UTG: t5,693 (Hero)
UTG+1: t3,310
CO: t6,621

Dealing Hands: (t360) 6♦ 7♦ J♦ 3♦ 5♦ (6 players)
Hero calls t120, UTG+1 calls t120, CO folds, Button raises to t600, 2 folds, Hero calls t480, UTG+1 folds

First Draw: (t1,680) (2 players)
Hero discards 1, Button stands,
6♦ 7♦ 3♦ 5♦ || 2♦
Hero checks, Button bets t960, Hero folds

Button collected t1680

What makes them so funny is that if this was 5-Card Draw you'd never hit the straight or flush

Cheers,
VS


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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

I missed that this was 2-7 SD instead of 5CD at first, so I was utterly confused by these hands for a moment. :f_biggrin:

I've been trying some 2-7 TD games for a while now, both cash and MTTs. It may be the most variance-heavy format of poker I've played yet. So far, I've shipped two tourneys and bricked six, so I'll stick around for at least a little while, even though it's hard to tell how these games are going at the moment.

I assume that 2-7 SD requires some really tight hand selection, and that any hand that is more than one card away from an 8-high or lower is not worth playing, except for a steal?


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Originally posted by Harrier88
I missed that this was 2-7 SD instead of 5CD at first, so I was utterly confused by these hands for a moment. :f_biggrin:

I've been trying some 2-7 TD games for a while now, both cash and MTTs. It may be the most variance-heavy format of poker I've played yet. So far, I've shipped two tourneys and bricked six, so I'll stick around for at least a little while, even though it's hard to tell how these games are going at the moment.

I assume that 2-7 SD requires some really tight hand selection, and that any hand that is more than one card away from an 8-high or lower is not worth playing, except for a steal?

Surprisingly, a J-lo is even vs a player drawing 1.
A Q-lo is even against 2 players drawing 2.

NL 2-7 SD has a huge bluff component too, but in general, tight is a good way to play.

I'll draw 1 to a 97 or better in most any position.
Unless the draw could make a straight or a flush. The above two hands were just me goofing around -- I don't normally do that _cool:

What I love doing is 3-bet shoving or shoving over limpers when I'm in the blinds.

2-7 TD is tough, since a really good hand can go sour once you've got a bunch of money in the pot.

Peace,
VS


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

What makes them so funny is that if this was 5-Card Draw you'd never hit the straight or flush

It's uncanny how easy it is to hit straights/flushes. Once playing TD, I drew to a 5432, drew a 6, drew again, drew another 6, threw hand into the muck in disgust. Then punched myself in the face so that I wouldn't do it again. I haven't. :f_p:


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Harrier88
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Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Surprisingly, a J-lo is even vs a player drawing 1.
A Q-lo is even against 2 players drawing 2.

Yeah, that's a common piece of strategy advice I have heard in 2-7 TD. When your opponent draws one card before you on the last draw, you're actually a slight favorite with J-low, so you're better off standing pat and checking behind, if possible. This demonstrates yet again how important position is in this game.

This is one of the main differences I've noticed between drawing in 2-7 and drawing in Badugi - your hand can actually get worse in 2-7 if you hit the wrong cards, which can make the decision whether or not to try improving your hand really tough at times. I can't think of any other poker game that gives you this kind of dilemma, except for some cases in 5CD where you need to decide whether to keep a high kicker or not.

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
2-7 TD is tough, since a really good hand can go sour once you've got a bunch of money in the pot.

You're definitely right about that!

People who are frustrated with the variance in games like Hold'em might be wise to stay away from 2-7 TD.


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5-Card Draw
MM-93

I came 81 out of 1657 so top 5% finish.
($3.30 NL 5-Card Draw)
It took two tickets though, but still profitable.
I won the tickets in the $0.65 Spingos, so even more so.

Earlier today I finished 1426 of 12208 in MM-90 ($0.55+R NLHE 6-max Hyper-Active)
I went the whole way with 1 rebuy and 1 add-on. This one was a lot of fun.

I also cashed in a $2.20 NL 2-7 Single Draw PKO.
I really like these. If you have the stack, you can win enough in knockouts to freeroll the rest of the tournament.
To do that you have to get your stack early.

All the best,
VS


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MM-93 notable hand

I was delighted to get a chance to open shove here. With only 4BB left, I have little or no fold equity from earlier position

Converted by the cows of Feral Cow Poker
PokerStars No Limit 5 Card Draw ($3.00+$0.30) t4000/t8000 ante t2000 - 6 players

BB: t239,284
UTG: t182,144
UTG+1: t343,572
CO: t128,860
Button: t31,632 (Hero)
SB: t167,584

Dealing Hands: (t24,000) 5♥:2♥:Q♥:7♣:K♥: (6 players)
3 folds, Hero raises to t29632 and is all-in, SB calls t25632, BB folds

First Draw: (t79,264) (2 players)
SB discards 1, Hero discards 1

When I didn't get my :heart: I was sure I was dead -- and had I done so, I was surely dead

Hero showed 5♥:2♥:Q♥:5♠:K♥:, a pair of Fives
SB showed 4♠:A♥:6♥:8♥:7♥:, high card Ace
Hero won t79264

This set me up to last the rest of the way.

All the best,
VS


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