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Harrier88
Joined: 01.05.2012

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
This "pineapple" is just hold'em with three cards and you get to decide which two to keep after you see the flop.
There is also a "crazy pineapple" version where you decide after you see the turn.
I've heard also of "lazy pineapple" where you decide only after the river, but I've never seen it.

According to the Wikipedia article, players have to discard their third hole card preflop in regular Pineapple poker, while in Crazy Pineapple, you discard it after the flop betting round. This is consistent with what I managed to find on other sources as well.

Therefore, the version of Pineapple poker which we both played the other day actually seems to be Crazy Pineapple, even though it is simply called "Pineapple Hold'em" there. But clearly, players were required to discard their third hole card after the flop. Which can leave them with the dilemma of either keeping a flush draw or a pair on the flop, just like we know it from Five Card Draw.

I shipped last night's (Crazy?) Pineapple freeroll, btw. :f_thumbsup:


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Interesting, because they also have a "Crazy Pineapple" in the list, but I don't have the chips to play it.

From their website:
https://swcpoker.eu/flop-games/pineapple-hold-em

Pineapple Hold'em is a variant of Texas Hold'em played with 3 hole cards. Players discard 1 card before the turn.

And yes, you're right. Everywhere else I looked calls this crazy pineapple.
Their crazy pineapple appears to be a variant of Open Face Chinese


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I'm now here just for eagle videos :f_biggrin: :f_drink:


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I installed a major Windows 10 update today, and once again, it took a fair bit of effort to get my audio all working again.

All the individual components tested successfully -- except that I heard no sound.

Finally unplugged my speakers, plugged them back in, and it all worked -- sort of.
My streaming software (OBS) couldn't output my 2nd audio channel.

In all honesty, I don't really know how I fixed that, because it started working without me actually doing anything.

Problems that go away by themselves tend to come back by themselves, so I'll be sure to test it before the stream happens tomorrow...


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For a wee bit of amusement, check out my Hand of the Day for today

For an even more amazing hand, check out Harrier88's -- also from today.

I've once had a shot at Badugi Math
But I never got as far as attempting to calculate the chances of hitting a particular hand.

But let's simplify things and ignore all the messing drawing and discarding stuff
In 52 cards there are 270,725 combinations of 4 cards.
Only 24 of those are 4,3,2,A rainbow
For one person to have a 4-Badugi the odds are 270,701:24 or 11,279:1
Stated as a percentage, there is a 0.0089% chance that a player does have a 4-Badugi
For the second player, 1 4-Badugi is gone, so his percentage is 23 left out of 270,724 or 0.0085% chance of having one.
Two players having a 4-Badugi in the same hand would occur in the order of once in 132 billion hands.

Don't forget that we grossly simplified the math by ignoring the drawing.

Still remarkable though.

Oh -- and congrats Harrier88 for binking that tournament!


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PLO8 is NOT PLO

And here's why...

PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi/Lo (6 max) - Omaha Hi/Lo - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): $10.55
BTN: $20.94
SB: $13.54
BB: $23.39
UTG: $3.18
MP: $11.77

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♣:T♦:3♦:7♠: My hand can make broadways, lows, mid-range straights and even a weak flush

UTG raises to $0.35, fold, Hero calls $0.35, BTN raises to $1.55, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

Flop: ($4.80, 3 players) T♠:8♦:6♥:
UTG bets $1.63 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.63, fold I'm getting a great price, and no risk of further cost.

Turn: ($8.06, 2 players) 6♣:

River: ($8.06, 2 players) 9♥:

UTG shows K♦:A♥:K♥:4♦: (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes) Villain's hand has a high pair, a weak low draw, and two suits, but he overplays it, leaning on the high pair values
(Pre 59%, Flop 42%, Turn 63%)
Hero shows A♣:T♦:3♦:7♠: (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 41%, Flop 58%, Turn 38%) I think my equity may be higher, because if a low card comes I get half the pot
Hero wins $7.72
Rake paid $0.34

Edit: I checked with Equilab-Omaha and the equity is about right


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OH MY!
That was Scary!

I accidentally registered for an $11 satellite to next weekends Mega Millions tournament.
To see why it was accidental, check
https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=503463.

Following the advice I learned here regarding Satellites, I survived to the end to actually win my ticket. Woot!
Check this video series out: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/content/Satellite-advice-for-the-Irish-Open_111390/
Especially the one with Collin Moshman and Dara O'Kearney -- thanks guys!
I folded at least the last 50 hands pre-flop.
Here is the chip graph:

Spoiler

In truth, I luckboxed my way to a decent stack -- and this was the key hand:

Spoiler

PokerStars - 800/1600 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 72,494
SB: 52,482
Hero (BB): 41,193
UTG: 9,312
UTG+1: 45,250
MP: 50,758
MP+1: 112,549
MP+2: 43,682
CO: 59,675

9 players post ante of 200, SB posts SB 800, Hero posts BB 1,600

Pre Flop: (pot: 4,200) Hero has 7♣:3♣:

fold, fold, MP raises to 3,200, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1,600

Flop: (9,000, 2 players) A♦:Q♣:2♣:
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: (9,000, 2 players) 3♥:
Hero checks, MP bets 3,510, Hero calls 3,510

River: (16,020, 2 players) 7♥:
Hero bets 34,283 and is all-in, fold

MP mucks 7♦:A♠: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens)

Hero wins 16,020
I called the turn thinking the villain might have something like a straight draw or woteva, and that I could win with a 7, 3 or club
The jam was under the heading of "if you don't know what else to do, either fold or shove" -- so I shoved and villain was kind enough to show me the best hand.


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First Attempt
On the road to the Sunday Million

I added a $2.20 NLHE "normal" tournament to my regular stream. Normal = no rebuy, no hyper, no turbo, no PKO
I managed to hold on to average stack through the first two hours, then hit this...

One of the viewers on my stream thought I should have been wary since a short stack made such a small open raise.
I'll file that thought away to watch for such action next time...

PokerStars - 250/500 Ante 30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 33,043
UTG: 29,939
UTG+1: 23,551
Hero (MP): 9,809
MP+1: 16,597
MP+2: 11,551
CO: 5,693
BTN: 4,038
SB: 20,640

9 players post ante of 30, SB posts SB 250, BB posts BB 500

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,020) Hero has A♥:Q♦:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 1,100, fold, fold, CO raises to 1,700, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9,779 and is all-in, CO calls 3,963 and is all-in

Flop: (12,346, 2 players) 7♥:8♣:4♣:

Turn: (12,346, 2 players) 2♦:

River: (12,346, 2 players) Q♥:

Hero shows A♥:Q♦: (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 7%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
CO shows A♦:A♠: (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 93%, Flop 99%, Turn 100%)
CO wins 12,346

I think I did more-or-less OK except for this hand.
After this I jammed some garbage UTG for my last 8 BB then went to try to get my phone fixed.


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

You gonna play any "Powerfest"-events on Partypoker, Vorpal?

Thereยดs a lot of PLO and PLO8! :banana: _drink:_thumbsup:_cool:


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PLO8 is doable I suppose.
I'll have a look, although I had made no plans to play any of those tournaments


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This COVID-I9 pandemic is beginning to hit closer to home.

My daughter got laid off from her job at a tool manufacturer's plant -- nobody was ordering anything, and the type of work she did can't be done from home.

Mrs Vorpal is still working, but she works at an art school, and a lot of students are staying away.
Local health authority is recommending keeping a "social distance" of 1m -- that's difficult in a classroom.

My Mum is in a nursing home, and has a fever and is being kept in isolation. She has been tested for COVID-19 but I haven't got the results back yet.
If she tests positive, I'll need to self-isolate since I've visited her in the last two weeks.

and worst of all, my phone died!

my trusty Blackberry Priv which I've had for 4 years suddenly would not boot. It powers up, and enters the boot sequence, but never finishes.
It is in the hands of a local highly-recommended repair guy.

If he can fix it, great -- if not I have no clue what to get to replace it.

I dropped it off yesterday. When it's ready, he'll phone me. Oh, wait...

He has Mrs Vorpal's number, so he can call her -- but we cancelled our land line months ago.

1st world problem


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New Phone In The House

The Blackberry Priv I had been using for the past 4 years would not boot, as mentioned, and after having it overnight, the repair guy gave up.

I have now acquired a Samsung S10.
It works, it does what it needs to do, but it is full of intrusive Samsung "helpful apps" that can't be fully disabled.

They can be avoided though.

So far the toughest difference is that on the BB Priv, the power button was on the left, and the volume buttons on the right.
It is the opposite with the S10. Have I ever mentioned I'm left-handed? The previous arrangement suited me fine.

I'll get used to this eventually I'm sure.


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I DID IT

I had been playing the daily Big $2.20 to help prepare for Sunday's 14th anniversary Sunday Million, and on my 3rd try I cashed in the 4th tier up so in profit for the day, and in profit for the 3 attempts.

Bring on the Milly!
I'll be streaming it beginning at 17:00 ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฎ UTC at http://bit.ly/maugr1s -- and for all three days if necessary!


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Busto!

I did well, I thought, lasting a little over 3 hours.
Busted on KK UTG raised, and called the All-in who had Aces.

The classic.

I felt good overall, and once the nerves wore off it seemed fairly straightforward

Next year!


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It was the best of times, it was the worst of times[1]

Over the past few days, I've seen some heart-warming kindness stranger-to-stranger.
In one case, a restaurant was not accepting cash, so a customer was about to abandon his order.
Another customer pulled out his card and paid for the order -- and didn't accept the cash.

In another, one of our neighbours that we don't know left a note on our door that the next day they would be making a grocery run, and if we needed anything, they would get it for us. I presume that they left similar notes for all the neighbours, but still...

And some appalling examples of exploitation and greed
Things like:

:diamond: ย Setting up a table in a park and selling masks and hand-sanitizer at high prices
:diamond: ย Advertising fake rememdies
:diamond: ย Posing as the Red Cross and entering people's homes to give them a "free test"
:diamond: ย Selling or promoting fake rememdies
:diamond: ย Phishing scams using fear and anxiety as bait

Times like these bring out the best in some people, and the worst in others...

All the best,
VS

[1] This is the opening line from "A Tale of Two Cities" by Charles Dickens.
Since you're stuck at home anyway, now would be a great time to read this classic. All you need is an e-pub reader.
Download the book here: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/98
My favourite e-pub reader for Windows is Calibre -- it can do a lot more than just read them
For Android my favourite is Lithium


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Shame for the ppl using this situation to make money, I hope theres a hell for them.


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To me the definition of evil is "Harming others for personal gain"

A lot of perfectly legal actions fit that description, though.
Who am I to say?


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What a mess!

I fixed our wash-disher this morning -- it would no longer clean items on the top rack

The problem?

A mass of guck
Part 1:

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The housing for the food trap:

Part 2:

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The cover of the pump assembly:

That operation appears to be successful, let's see how today's stream goes!


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Where Has All the Traffic Gone?

Some dashcam video of the worst traffic bottleneck in the Vancouver Area taken yesterday.


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Rage Quit

Wow! I can't remember the last time I did this.
I didn't even save the hand.

Over and over since last Friday I have lost to a ridiculous hand that got there on the river.
Sometimes runner runner, but most of the time just a 2- or 3-outer that got there.

It's good to get that crap out of the way though -- clear the way for my stream tomorrow.

I'll have song requests now,and an on-screen display of the current song playing.

See you then...


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