Omaha is Holdem on Steroids and other Revelations

    • TheMarxBros3
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      I was asked if I would be interested in creating a blog. After thinking about it for a couple of weeks I decided "Why Not".

      MY GOAL----
      To win enough money playing on-line through pokerstrategy to go to the 2013 WSOP and play in a couple of events.
      I do not have a lot of free time to play during the week as I work from 5:30am-to-5:30pm Monday to Friday give or take an hour. Working for a living is highly overrated but it is a necessary evil as a way to a means. We all have obligations and bills and a certain lifestyle to maintain. This is my cross to bear. Reality sucks--get used to it.

      I will copy and paste what I wrote as my introduction and then post anything and everything that comes to mind in this blog. Brutal honesty is my motto. Ask me anything and I will give you a straight answer. Whenever I get time to play I will post my results here. After all isn't that what we all want? Positve results. They say never be results orientated but I say that is a crock as it is the positive results we are looking for or else we wouldn't play.

      I play all games and all variations depending on my mood. Lately though POT-LIMIT OMAHA is where you will find me 80% of the time. I do dab in touraments but have been playing mostly the free-rolls until I build up my bank roll.

      OK lets get started

      I'm a 58 year old grandfather who has been playing poker off and on (depending on my lifestyle at the time) my whole life.
      I stated playing on-line in 2002 at aaa site that has just recently re-started up. I was given a $10 comp by the site and by 2005 I had earned in excess of $150,000 on-line. I also had just come back from a trip to Sweden which was All expenses paid. I was given this trip by the site I was playing on as a promotion. I had moved up in stakes to bring in $2,000 which as everyone knows is above my brankroll. I took a very bad beat (don't we all), which cost me a pot of $10,000.
      **sniffle here** I lost to a 1 outer and was so disgusted I cashed out everything and quit playing for 2 years.
      If anyone is interested here is the hand. Playing 3 handed the game has been playing for about 3 hours
      Playing blinds 10-20
      Hereo $5,600
      villan $8,000
      3td $2,000 (just joined)
      Hero B 10-10
      villan SB 8-8
      3td BB
      I raise to $100
      villan calls
      3td folds
      Flop 10-5-5
      it goes check-check
      Turn 8
      villan checks, hero bets $200, villan check raises to $600 I re-raise to $1,200 villan pushes all-in. Hero calls.
      River 8.
      I was so disgusted I quit playing on-line after that for 3 years.
      After cooling off for 2 years I ended up playing live in Brantford On. in the 2007 spring championships where I won a little over $30,000 for the week. I final tabled all 3 tournament that week with 3td,7th and 4th place finishes. There is a blurb about me in the summer edition of the old Canadian Poker Player Magazine. MY CLAIM TO FAME. HAHA. I quit for awhile and then went to play in the WPT $10,000 buy-in at the Fallsview Casino in Niagra Falls Ontario.
      Day one went well but I made a mistake on day 2 and ended up knocking myself out by getting it all in preflop with pocket QQ vrs pocket AA.. Oops.
      Because I am my own worst critic I once again quit for awhile.


      I also had a 10th place finish on stars in 2005 in the $1,000 buy in limit tournament for $6,600. I won my seat in a $50 mega seat qualifier.

      I joined this site in 2008 but have only been kicking around here. I plan on reserrecting my playing whenever i can but I do have a full-time job and a family to attend to.

      This is me. I stated this not to brag but just to let you know where my head is at these days.

      Reading between the lines you will get the impression my bankroll management is not very good and has done me in. Either I'm running hot and spending it as fast as I make it, or I run cool and because I haven't kept anything back for a downturn I end up with no POKER BANKROLL.
      Let that be a lesson to you all.

      At any rate I'm grinding small stakes on Everest thanks to pokerstrategy.

      P.S. I much prefer live but do not have the time to invest.
      Later

      Site-------------------Everest
      Starting Bankroll----$100-------$50 from pokerstrategy, $50 my money(deposited June 18,2012)
      Any and all bonuses will be considered earned money for this excersize.

      I started out playing Bring in $10 pot limit omaha and have played some free-rolls and a couple of small buy-in MTTs. I had a 2nd place finish in a $3 buy-in MTT. I have also tilted off some money. Sucks to be me sometimes.

      Bankroll as of now--$203.

      All results and games played will be posted and anything else anyone wants to talk about that affects our day to day lives.
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    • TheMarxBros3
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      I took the Gold quiz yesterday and scored 76% which is the low end expert. I discovered a leak I wasn't aware of when I reviewed my answers. I am going to have to start on some training videos soon in order to raise my game.

      Moved up in stakes after my post this morning.
      Now playing PLO bring in $25 (played for 1 hr today)--+$33

      MTTs played today.
      PLO $50 freeroll----$0
      PLO $50 freeroll----$0
      NLH $500 freeroll----6/873-----+$17.50
      NLH $3,500 freeroll----4/600-----+$266.00
      Had pocket KK flop was Q high all the money goes in and he had Q-10. Turn Q. Dam. Out in 4th. Oh well at least I played well and got the money in when I was ahead. That's all you can do in this game.


      Like the little engine that could and the tortoise vrs the hare, slow and steady will build a bankroll.

      After 2 weeks of micros and freerolls the Bankroll now stands at-----$521.53
    • Jaiimc
      Jaiimc
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      Definitely interested in this, start posting some hands!
    • VorpalF2F
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      Originally posted by TheMarxBros3
      I took the Gold quiz yesterday and scored 76% which is the low end expert. I discovered a leak I wasn't aware of when I reviewed my answers. I am going to have to start on some training videos soon in order to raise my game.
      Wow -- you are doing remarkably well -- congratulations!

      BTW -- what was the leak?

      I'm dead curious.

      --VS
    • TheMarxBros3
      TheMarxBros3
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      I will post some hand histories as soon as I can figure out how to do it without to much work. Here are the problems I'm having with trying to post the hand histories. Hopefully someone out there has a solution.

      1-You can not copy a hand history from the tables detatchable box. It will not recognize a right click so I'm stumped there.

      2-This is how Everest saves the hand histories in my computer. I do not have the patience nor the energy to figure out how to desipher this.

      name="HauseOfPain" balance="139000"/>
      <SEAT position="2" name="Grinkosd" balance="141000"/>
      <SEAT position="3" name="henrycca" balance="173500"/>
      <SEAT position="4" name="TheMarxBros3" balance="145500"/>
      <SEAT position="5" name="ujoca" balance="160500"/>
      <SEAT position="6" name="xspacetattoo" balance="113500"/>
      <SEAT position="7" name="norbika33" balance="45000"/>
      <SEAT position="8" name="megalodon2" balance="196800"/>
      <SEAT position="9" name="dinhas" balance="101200"/>
      <DEALER position="9"/>
      <BLIND position="0" amount="2500" penalty="0"/>
      <BLIND position="1" amount="5000" penalty="0"/>
      <HOLE position="0">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="1">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="2">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="3">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="4">3h</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="5">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="6">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="7">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="8">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="9">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="0">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="1">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="2">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="3">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="4">10c</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="5">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="6">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="7">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="8">--</HOLE>
      <HOLE position="9">--</HOLE>
      <FOLD position="2"/>
      <FOLD position="3"/>
      <FOLD position="4"/>
      <FOLD position="5"/>
      <FOLD position="6"/>
      <BET position="7" amount="5000"/>
      <BET position="8" amount="5000"/>
      <BET position="9" amount="5000"/>
      <FOLD position="0"/>
      <BET position="1" amount="0"/>
      <SWEEP rake="0" tax="0">22500</SWEEP>
      <COMMUNITY>4s, 5c, Qc</COMMUNITY>
      <BET position="1" amount="0"/>
      <BET position="7" amount="0"/>
      <BET position="8" amount="5000"/>
      <FOLD position="9"/>
      <FOLD position="1"/>
      <FOLD position="7"/>
      <PUSH position="8" amount="5000"/>
      <SWEEP rake="0" tax="0">22500</SWEEP>
      >


      This is just a snippit from my last session.

      There are pages and pages of this crap. One for Every session I take it.

      So any suggestions on how to retrive hand histories without going through all this.



      Wow -- you are doing remarkably well -- congratulations!

      BTW -- what was the leak?

      I'm dead curious.

      --VS


      I found that on scary flops when I check back for pot control I am folding to often to a donkey bet on the turn. Thinking about this after taking the quiz I remember doing exactly that when I played a Canadian Poker Tour event in Regina Sask. a few years ago. Of course my opponent showed me a bluff. It never rang a bell until I took the quiz the other day. If you are curious I did go on to finish 8th in that tourney for $4,100 ($500 buy-in) but now realize things like that can sometimes be the difference of 1 or 2 spots or even a win as your stack size does influence your decisions at certain times during a tournament.
      I am a cash player first and formost who has dabbled in tournaments off and on over the years. The more tournaments I play the more I'm beginning to understand the intricacies involved in the different levels of ones thought process related to stack size, betting position, tournament structure and at what point a tournament is at.
    • VorpalF2F
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      If you have HM2, you can bring up the viewer, and export directly to PokerStrategy format -- THAT I know how to do.

      --VS
    • TheMarxBros3
      TheMarxBros3
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      If you have HM2, you can bring up the viewer, and export directly to PokerStrategy format -- THAT I know how to do.

      --VS

      Unfortunately I do not. Nor do I see myself getting it in the forseeable future.
    • VorpalF2F
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      There is one here that might work:
      http://www.handconverter.com/

      and another:
      http://www.feralcowpoker.com/poker-hand-history-converter.php

      Neither specifies that Everest is supported, but you'll find out soon enough :)

      Neither of those sites require registration, as far as I can tell.
      I've only used feral cow -- and only for non-holdem hands

      --VS
    • TheMarxBros3
      TheMarxBros3
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      Thanks for trying but I can't figure out how to get either of these to convert the Everest hand histories. I've tried a few different and it may be I'm just doing something wrong. I have e-mailed the sites and asked them. Hopefully they will respond and have a solution.
    • Jaiimc
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      Bring up your hand history in the poker client, select the hand you want to display and bring up the box that displays the text of that hand - select it all then press CTRL+C which is copy - as it doesn't allow right click.

      You can then use a hand converter, I use weaktight as it was the only one I could find to work with iPoker. (http://weaktight.com/hand/)

      It'll bring up a page of what happened in the hand in a readable format with a few tabs of different formats, select one of the forum ones and copy and paste that here.

      Hope this helped - if it doesn't I can screenshot the process to help.
    • TheMarxBros3
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      I am very sorry but I am old and feeling older trying to figure this out.
      At my age unless some one is here to show me, when it comes to computers I get lost very easy.

      I tried but I can't figure this one out either.
    • Jaiimc
      Jaiimc
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      Where I found my hand history


      After selecting the hand I wanted - I brang up the box you talked about


      Here is where I use CTRL+C


      This is the site I uploaded to


      This is the final part - where I select the output format


      Output

      $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
      iPoker
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG+1 skinnyrush14 ($3.39) 170bb
      CO stryker1118 ($5) 250bb
      BTN Andrey275 ($1.08) 54bb
      SB Jaiimc ($0.82) 41bb
      BB askDNA ($3.06) 153bb

      Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 5 players) Jaiimc is SB A: A:
      5 folds, fernandosanches calls $0.18

      Flop: Q: :3s: Q: ($0.05, 0 players)
      Jaiimc bets $0.38, fernandosanches calls $0.38

      Turn: Q: ($0.81, 0 players)

      River: :5c: ($0.81, 0 players)

      Final Pot: $0.81
      fernandosanches shows Four of a kind
      Q: K:
      Jaiimc shows Full house
      A: A:

      fernandosanches wins $1.79 (net +$1.23)

      Jaiimc lost $0.39


      Hope this helps!
    • TheMarxBros3
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      Everest Poker doesn't save the hand histories the same way that William Hill does unfortunately.
      Thank you for trying but I guess whenever I run into a hand worth posting I will have to write it down the old fashioned way (pen and paper) and the post it to the computer when I am done playing.

      Thanks once again.
    • Jaiimc
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      Try to find the hand replayer in Everest poker, I imagine it's fairly similar - should be able to export in some form to put it in the hand converter.
    • TheMarxBros3
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      Believe it or not I don't think they have one. One of the reasons I like the software at Everest is that it is almost as old as I am and is pretty simple. ;)

      I think I have found a solution.
      By detaching the window from the table I can then snip the hand history and clip it to the clipboard. From there I can copy and paste it to the forum. It's a long workaround but I have tried it and it does work. It's better then nothing. I will just have to remember to snip the histories I want to keep before I close the table.

      Thanks once again for your help.
    • VorpalF2F
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      Originally posted by TheMarxBros3
      I am very sorry but I am old and feeling older trying to figure this out.
      At my age unless some one is here to show me, when it comes to computers I get lost very easy.
      Unless I'm wrong I'm older. :)
      I've sent you a friend request.

      I'm pretty sure that together we can get you all fixed up.

      --VS
    • TheMarxBros3
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      I've sent you a friend request.

      Accepted. Thank you :)
    • fruktpuff
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      Hi there!

      Belated welcome to our blogging section!

      Now, for the issue at hand, please follow the link below:

      This link, the one right here!

      This is our instructions from the sticky threads in our Hand Evaluation forums, and while I haven't at this time tested it myself, if you experience any problems when trying it, I will be glad to look into the issue personally.

      Interesting blog, will be following for sure!

      Regards,
      Richard
    • TheMarxBros3
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      Wow do I ever feel foolish :( . I told you I needed someone to point it out to me the first time. How long have I been playing on Everest 2,3,4 weeks now and not once have I noticed anything in the top right of a table :( . The options button in the bottom right yes but the top right no. Thanks for showing me the thread. I think I missed it because I've never had to re-load at a table yet, YEA THAT'S IT !!!!! it's definately not because I'm thick and blind.

      Oh well we've only wasted 17 posts getting me to the right spot. :) .

      Call me SLOW ;)
    • TheMarxBros3
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      Testing to make sure Im doing it right.

      Lost $1 in 1 hour of play. Couldn't catch a cold. :(

      Bankroll now $521

      Everest Poker - Omaha Cash Games - $0.15/0.25 Blinds - 5 Players
      Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

      TheMarxBros3 (BTN): $23.75
      Z_0_0_M (UTG): $25
      AnaBarD (SB): $7.85
      niko_87 (BB): $8.80
      Brakkelmann (CO): $5.50

      Pre-flop: Dealt to TheMarxBros3 4:diamond: Q:heart: Q:club: 2:club:
      (1 folds), TheMarxBros3 raises to $.65, (1 folds), niko_87 calls $.65


      Flop: ($4.90) 7:club: A:club: 6:heart: (1 Players)
      niko_87 checks, TheMarxBros3 bets $.95, niko_87 calls $.95

      Turn: ($6.80) A:spade: (1 Players)
      niko_87 checks, TheMarxBros3 checks

      River: ($6.80) 7:diamond: (1 Players)
      niko_87 checks, TheMarxBros3 checks
      niko_87 Showed 4:club: J:heart: 9:diamond: 8:club:
      TheMarxBros3 wins $3.70

      There may be hope for me yet. :) Thanks for everyones help and patience in this. Hopefully from here on in I can post better efforts. Believe it or not this was one of my better hands this session. I should have bet the turn and then I wouldn't have been stuck at all.