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gadget51 Topic starter
gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Well sometimes, just sometimes, I can still be a non-believer and it costs me loads every single poxy time I do it.
When the recreational players - like 60+/20+ agro guys are all hitting sets or shoving all in then showing the bluff, I keep paying them off when they have it and folding when they don't, so it feels good to say NO, not this time sucker, this time I know you're at it - I call!

BTN: $29.16 (116.6 bb)
SB: $41.38 (165.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $32.13 (128.5 bb)
UTG: $25.89 (103.6 bb)
MP: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $42.11 (168.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K J
4 folds, SB raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1) T 4 7 (2 players)
SB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7) J (2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($21) Q (2 players)
SB bets $21, Hero calls $21

Results:

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$63 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: T 4 7 J Q
SB showed 4 4 and won $60 ($28.50 net)
Hero mucked K J and lost (-$31.50 net)

Yay, that's the 3rd BI gone, well played me - again.

Anyway, it's still going good so far apart from the odd brain fart, so no complaints here.

Electricity being somewhat of a nuisance since the storm at the weekend and things like my fence and gate seem to have moved house because they're no longer there that's for sure.

Now mrs gadget has fallen off her bike again so she is having a tough time lately, makes it hard to focus on poker so might give it a rest for a day or two, we'll see.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
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The problem of course, is that aggro donks can get hands too.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that they get paid off more often than better players do.

I like the raise on the flop, but do you have the odds to call the 3Bet?

Even if you like the implieds it is dodgy.

To keep myself from doing stuff like this too often, I now only do this with nut flushes in "red" suits and -- unless they give me pot odds to call (w/o implieds, since on iPoker they don't pay you off anyway)

Peace,
--VS


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gadget51 Topic starter
gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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I call because he'd do this with 7x and has done previously more than once. In a more agro frame of mind I would just get the money in right there on the flop v that guy. Different days spell different moods, that's how I roll.

I'll try that red suits game for a session or two, see how it goes. It may tame me a little.

I was much more agro today and it seemed to work ok, but I did notice something. If I get agro for a while it's good, then they start adjusting, that's a given. But if I stop being agro and miss a few cbets and stuff, they get more agro towards me, so I need to keep up the pressure. This isn't easy for me as it's not my natural soggy mind state, so when I lose that my plan is to sit out for a bit and recover with food and coffee etc.

I'll be trying both of those ideas I think.

Cover me, I'm going in...


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Well I'm not doing so well last few days, down around 9/10BI or so; basically just getting outdrawn time after time. Meh, we've all been down that road.

Oh and when being more agro preflop, prepare to be down a BI before you hit a hand versus these guys.

I played late last night to get a few hands in with the drunks and by damn they must be. I played six tables and on every table there was at least one with 6 or 7BI in front of them. Family Pots 'R' Us.
Forget the stats, my hud looked like the Matrix after an hour, so, you wait a bit...and wait...and wait...and...and then you get the 'Time to sit out' hand:

Hero (BB): $25.35 (101.4 bb)
UTG: $35.96 (143.8 bb)
MP: $141.72 (566.9 bb)
CO: $10 (40 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)
SB: $39.02 (156.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $1.25, MP calls $1, SB calls $1.00

Flop: ($3.75) 9 2 T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP raises to $5, SB folds, Hero raises to $24.10 and is all-in, MP calls $19.10

Turn: ($51.95) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($51.95) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$51.95 pot ($2.59 rake)
Final Board: 9 2 T 7 2
Hero showed K K and lost (-$25.35 net)
MP showed T 2 and won $49.36 ($24.01 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$1.25 net)

That'll be another 3BI then. :f_cry:

Got a few dorrars back this morning, b r at 606 so no panic yet, I'm in control, honest. :f_grin:


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Hey ah just noticed someone's bin a-messin' with ma blue. I'm always the last to find out anything.

Run good .


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MrMardyBum
Joined: 14.03.2009
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Hi Mal,

Finished reading through your blog now, well done on your bankroll building - I can only hope to achieve the same (I'm being polite I'll do much better... Just kidding! ) Looks like you are surviving the knocks at NL25 and battling well to be a regular... I noticed you were very up and down at NL10 - I have started skipping this limit and just jumping from NL5 to NL25 as I always find NL10 to be the tightest games at the micros (especially at zoom tables).

Anyway best of luck as you continue and congratulations on your progress so far! Subscribed :)

Danny


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011
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Originally posted by gadget51
Hey ah just noticed someone's bin a-messin' with ma blue. I'm always the last to find out anything.

Run good .

Oooooh :O

Spoiler

:f_thumbsup:


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gadget51 Topic starter
gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Thanks Danny for popping in, even though I would have to agree you will do better, but then who couldn't. Sigh.

Quick update, totally crushed at nl25, so back to nl10 for a week or two to eat up some $4 shorties and passive regs and I'll be back. Lost about 12BI in three days so that was that.

I thought I'd leave you with my last hand all in at nl25 and my very first at nl10, just for the lolz really:

Yes, it's Anna Kournikova time again

Hero (BB): $28.60 (114.4 bb)
UTG: $28.87 (115.5 bb)
MP: $19.73 (78.9 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $24.65 (98.6 bb)
SB: $6.04 (24.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, MP raises to $5.35, Hero raises to $28.60 and is all-in, MP calls $14.38 and is all-in

Flop: ($39.56) 3 Q 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($39.56) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($39.56) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$39.56 pot ($1.97 rake)
Final Board: 3 Q 9 J 2
Hero showed A K and lost (-$19.73 net)
MP showed J Q and won $37.59 ($17.86 net)

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BTN: $15.52 (155.2 bb)
SB: $7.43 (74.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.08 (100.8 bb)
MP: $4.03 (40.3 bb)
CO: $11.85 (118.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
MP calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.50, MP calls $0.40, SB raises to $7.43 and is all-in, Hero raises to $10.08 and is all-in, MP calls $3.53

Flop: ($18.89) 8 T 6 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($18.89) Q (3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($18.89) 7 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$18.89 pot ($1.88 rake)
Final Board: 8 T 6 Q 7
SB showed J T and won $6.80 (-$0.63 net)
Hero showed K A and lost (-$7.43 net)
MP showed Q J and won $10.21 ($6.18 net)

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So why is it people argue about folding AK preflop at micros again? Hmmm? ?(

Anyway, nl10 is a piece of piss so this shouldn't take long...

...and I'm a super mod now so that must count for something right? Right? :f_eek:

Run good guys and have fun.


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MrMardyBum
Joined: 14.03.2009
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I know it can have an affect when you lose a few sessions back to back, but what you've got to focus on are the positives - Your reads were right and you were ahead at the time your chips went in the middle. On a different day you'll start winning all of these.

And as a long time member of this forum, you probably know as well as I, that I'm not the best at sticking with things in Poker. At least you're still going and not dropping off the radar for a few months and then coming back and starting fresh once or twice a year, so you're already doing much better than me. I'm just on a 10k hands heater, and it's easy to be positive when everything is going upwards.

Anyway, chin up and I'm sure you'll return to NL25 quick time and crush 'em. :)


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gadget51 Topic starter
gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Nice to hear you're on a heater Danny, try to make it last another 90K and that should do it really! Easy game. _evil:

Went from 582 on Friday to 716 last night, so that'll be nl10 owned for another week or two at least I hope. That does include the min cash 35 I got for the depositor's freeroll though, nice one PKR. :heart:

In other news that nobody cares about mrsgadget has been moved departments and is in panic mode, so no sleep last weekend for me.
I have to do the positive outcomes story telling stuff to make it appear to be a great opportunity for her - I seem to have conned her so far - which it is if you know the background to it. She still suffers from her bike crash to which sucks.
Having mrsgadget in panic mode is an experience to be avoided at all costs if possible.

Summary
I won a bit of money and got tired, the mrs went off on one.

Out.


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Joined: 23.06.2008
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Not much happening pokerwise, win a BI, lose a BI...

Sticking to nl10 until the end of the month is doing me good mentally and it's easy as well so I can try a few things out cheaply. I never thought I'd say that about nl10!

I'll be comfortably rolled for nl25 by the end of this month I expect, being around 30 something BI.

That's about it really, 'cept mrsgadget is now (mostly) over her panic attack and is half cut on the sofa with Turkish Delights and a Girls Aloud dvd, which is why I'm hiding in here writing this drivel.

Summary
Yawn.


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Ramble
Joined: 17.11.2008
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Originally posted by gadget51
Summary
I won a bit of money and got tired, the mrs went off on one.

Out.

Dare I admit that I used to get excited when I heard this on the radio?


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Joined: 23.06.2008
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Ah yes, the good ol' 80s, some good stuff around back then. Excited isn't exactly the emotion springing foremost in mind though.

Been super busy lately, what with upgrading win8 to win8.1 after three downloads and much phaffing about to get it to work. In the end it all looks and feels the same as the old version to me anyway...crap. ?(

Mrsgadget has lost her confidence after falling off the bike again, so we've stepped back about 10 years of work. Sigh...

Pokerwise, not much to say, still meh. What I find particularly galling is my inability to beat a table full of shorties who just will not fold. Multiway is the norm along with random chk downs with the nuts or bizzarre bet sizes/bluffs/donks and all in stuff. Just so frustrating and I generally go down about a BI or so over four to six tables. When you raise the whole world calls and when you cbet TPTK the whole world calls then the bb min raises and the whole world... fold...:facepalm:

Summary

Mrsgadget has collapsed in a heap
I won a little/lost a little/got pissed off a little


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
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gadget51 Topic starter
gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Thanks for that well chosen one JB, very apt.

Since HM2 has decided to honour me with an audience, I thought it prudent to post a graph of last night's session.
I thought I was going to title it something like; "Welcome back to nl25, now sod off down to nl10 where you belong."
Fortunately I went from B game to A game after about 300 hands only! :f_thumbsup:
So now I just call it; "Whew, that was fkn close!"

Not good enough to have played much better even given I made some mistakes, mainly not knowing the villains.

Have fun.


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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009
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don't know why. But it's not telling me that i have previously posted in your blog so here you go , I post again :) so I can be subscribed once more.


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gadget51 Topic starter
gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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thazar in da house, woohoo! _cool: _cool:

Recouped the rest of the losses from some agro regs so all is well in gadgetworld again.

I'm actually only here because mrsgadget is watching strictly come dancing first, then that celebrity jungle thingy (see blog title for clue).

Good grief, there seems to be some difference between how many hands you play promo and this new points one. I could have walked top 50 in the first one but this one I played that session above and entered the boards at 427! Sigh.

Off to find a calling station.


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Joined: 23.06.2008
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Just for a change and since I seem to be up a BI, then down 2 BI, up a BI...I thought I'd post today's hero fold...

Villain is a nitreg 15/12/2.3 and 9% r from utg over 550 hands - and yes thazar, that really is even nittier than me!
Doesn't get busy or tricky, just straightforward stuff as far as I know up to now.
I hesitated calling pre so it's likely I shouldn't even have bothered.

I was suspicious preflop so donked out my set - such a long hesitation by villain - alarm bells, good enough for me even though it could just possible be AK.

So, god or cod? I should do a poll, lol.

BTN: $20.53 (82.1 bb)
SB: $27.02 (108.1 bb)
BB: $21.65 (86.6 bb)
UTG: $25.49 (102 bb)
MP: $6.23 (24.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4 4
UTG raises to $0.75, MP folds, Hero calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB folds

Flop: ($3.25) 4 J K (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.16, 2 folds, UTG raises to $7, Hero folds


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Walshnm
Joined: 18.12.2008
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I think if he has a set he makes it a bit smaller esp. vs. donk bet which is usually weak/ "I AM BETTING FOR INFORMATION" (LOLFISH) - Plus he knows the others are out of the pot?

I guess you could just say - He has JJ or KK (Lose) or AK or AA(Win) and pretty much no bluffs based on your read so get it in?

although - 9% is a pretty tight range :/


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ABShortland
Joined: 21.11.2008
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It's not a donk bet as we are in position of PFR (UTG Checks the flop).

When he X/R's this indicates huge strength. Whats his Cbet % gadget? .. Would more than likely expect him to Cbet into 4 people with AK & AA but you never know


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