Originally posted by RockRoll458
Believe it is the same one in your link. Wish I knew how to add a saved screenshot to the post
As a basic member, you might not be able to post a screenshot. The best way to find out is to save your SS to the desktop and simply drag and drop it in to your post. If it doesn't display the image, leave the link in your post and myself or one of the other moderators will quote it. 
Sorry guys, didn't mean to sidetrack the thread. No luck with drag and drop either 
No need to feel sorry, RockRoll. Discussions like this is exactly what this thread was intended for.
Anyway, it turns out that I'm simply using a quite ancient version of Equilab, which seems to be a bit different to the one you have. Among other things, my version does not include the Equity Trainer you mentioned, which does seem like a useful tool for getting acquainted with the math involved.
So unfortunately, I'm not familiar with that particular version of Equilab that you're using, but I'd be surprised if it didn't include a way to add combos of a specific suit to your ranges. Do you have access to any image hosting sites, like imgur? If so, you could upload a screenshot of your hand range selection screen there and post the link. I could then edit it so the picture will show up.
Originally posted by Harrier88
Incidentally, you can select combos of a certain suit (like spades, in this case) in Equilab by clicking one of the suit symbols in the top left corner of the Hand-Range-Selection window, as shown here:
Harrier,
Thanks again for the help. 
The version I have isn't showing any of the suits in the top left corner. There is a button Titled 'Suit Selection' but I didn't notice any action other than a graying out of the predefined hand ranges area on the right, and the selected range on the bottom. If there is a way to get the different suits to pop up on the perimeter, I have not figured it out yet.
Was thinking I could uninstall and reinstall the program, but I did get it from this website to start with. May end up trying that. 
Did you try selecting a certain group of cards, and then clicking 'Suit Selection'? I believe there should be some sort of popup window that allows you to select the suits you want.
I doubt that reinstalling the program is necessary, it seems to work the way it is supposed to.
one card less in the deck from 47 =(2pocket 3 board) to
46 =(2pocket 4 board)so calculate from beginning
Originally posted by zenule
I don't really understand how the odds change after the turn...
one card less in the deck from 47 =(2pocket 3 board) to
46 =(2pocket 4 board)so calculate from beginning
* Odds & Outs Article my Questions:
Hello All, this makes me very confused !!!
And ODDS is something i really need too learn for "positive expected value" The first chart you say you have 9 outs I think its only 8 !!!
What if your opponent has pocket TENS ??? (or even 33.)
Then the 3 gives him a FULL HOUSE or better so i wouldn't count the 3. Then the ODDS need to be recalculated and use 8 instead of 9.
We have too learn TELLS and decide what cards our opponents have to exclude HIS outs !!!
*also- The other chart with the AQ overcards, You don't count the runner-runner straight OUTS ??? Howcome..???
*also- The Trips section the K could give your opponent (pocket JT) a straight so our inproved 2 pair would be useless and the K's would be negative outs. What if he holds QQ and hits a 9, We hit our trips and he hits a full-house and obviously give him great pay-out action !!!
*also- The 3 in gutshot could give your opponent (who limped in or got called his pot-steal-raise with 64s from OT.) a higher straight, so again negative outs. i'm curious for everyones reactions, advise, tips and hints.
Because i want too sharpen my play and the math is tricky and wenn i calculate my odds at the table my hand is already sat out wenn ready. lol
* Odds & Outs Article my Questions:
8 / 47 = 0,17 = (almost) 6:1
call 6 times $2,- win 1 time $10,- = - $2,- negative EV (expected Value.)
Thus your pot odds are 5:1 and your odds are 6:1. don't call
Even wenn you count your $2,- call within' the pot because wenn you call it, it isn't yours anymore...
you get : call 6 times $2,- win 1 time $12,- = 0,00 so calling isn't profitable in longterm.
( probably you also lose rake if you win that 1 time.)
I am already struggling with calculating the pot odds and want to learn the right way, now i feel i got a wrong example and get more and more confused.
Because i don't see negative outs being taken in consideration.
(like the 3 of Harts.)
maybe in the next sections that i didn't read yet.
Hey PSICKO,
In a way, you are right although this thread deals with basic pot odds. As you get to more advanced strategy, you will learn about concepts such as discounting outs, implied odds and reverse implied odds.
But for the exercise of learning how to calculating basic pot odds and counting outs, you stick to the information you know for certain.
Then you can discount outs based on the range you put your opponent on. This is also where implied and reverse implied odds enter the equation.
It can still be profitable to call without correct pot odds if you believe hitting your card will get villain's stack. However the opposite can also apply when hitting your card may improve villain's hand more than yours.
Regards
Laz
hi Laz,
Thanks for the reply,
I guess im ahead with the strategy already and take your advice for granted on this article with ONLY basic outs. And i look forward for the more experienced posts.
Ciao
Hello!
I'm a forner Fixed Limit player. So I know the basic mathematics of poker, but I'm just studying No Limit.
In the last few weeks I got pretty confused due to my results. Could you give me some hint where should I learn the NL specific things like Opening and 3-betting ranges, Squeeze and defending against Squeeze, bet/call/raise/stack-off ranges on different streets?
Thanks in advance!
Hey SZEBI18,
Make sure you check out w34z3l's 6max walkthrough - (microstakes edition). There is a lot of good stuff there.
Cheers
Laz
I think it's very important to know how to calculate odds and outs. One of my biggest mistakes was using my whole bankroll and not calculating outs.
Originally posted by PokerrBabe
I think it's very important to know how to calculate odds and outs.
Hi PokerrBabe,
Welcome to PokerStrategy.com!
If you only ever make plays where the odds are in your favour, in the long run, you'll win.
Read the article "The Basics: Odds & Outs" for a complete description of odd and outs.
The entire "Basics" section is worth a read, even if you already know most of the concepts.
Best of luck,
VS
Is it true that at the moment is better to play in tournaments with 25cents/50 small blind big blind? Because too many are playing without any strategy and winning with bad hands
Hello all,
fairly new to poker and I get very confused calculating pot odds percentages to rations and Converting my outs to rations. Any suggestions to improve my conversation skills? It may be a dumb question but I still have to ask.
Hi Terban920,
Welcome to PokerStrategy.com!
Converting odds to ratios (not rations) goes like this:
Let's take an easy case to start:
If the odds are 3:1 then there are 3 losses and 1 win -- so you win 1/4 of the time or to say it another way, you have a 25% chance of winning.
if the odds are 7:3, then your chance of winning is 3/(7+3) or 30%
to go the other way it is a bit trickier:
Let's use a 40% chance of winning:
Out of 100 times, you win 40 and lose 60, so your odds are 60:40 or 3:2
I'm not actually sure that answered your question though.
Have a look at: The Basics: Odds & Outs for more details.
All the best,
VS
Thank you, it actually does and sorry about the "rations" (auto correct).... I did mean ratios...lol
